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<blockquote data-quote="kel" data-source="post: 1460496" data-attributes="member: 17197">I disagree. The long march through the institutions - which was not very long and had already been de facto underway when the &quot;idea&quot; was hatched - is complete. True believers are everywhere, from the sociopaths in the C-suite to the jannie schlubs who will work basically for free since they have nothing else going on in their lives. Even if the heads of these companies and organizations did suddenly have a coming-to-the-light moment and decide to end their attack on human dignity they could not stop the freight train despite ostensibly being &quot;in charge&quot;, the momentum is too great. That's the nature of &quot;the cathedral&quot;, it's an emergent power.To put it in concrete terms with a silly example (and hopefully without getting into an irrelevant argument about old political nonsense, this is just something everyone's familiar with): Twitter banned Trump a few months back. &quot;It's a private company&quot;. He, obviously, does not want to, but imagine if Jack Dorsey - or, even, say a dozen of the top execs at Twitter all collectively - decided to ban Joe Biden (or even some lower-level retard. AOC, Rachel Maddow, Borat, take your pick), could he/they do it?No. They do not have that power. Strictly speaking, obviously, they do - they have the power to go to an employee and make them flip the switch in the admin console and for however long that account would be banned. But the cultural force around that would eat them alive. Their lives would be over before they even turned around. Despite being incredibly rich and ostensibly powerful, they are at the whim of the greater cultural moment.Money is only good for what it can buy. Money is a reasonable proxy for power, so in that sense it's &quot;about money&quot;, but it's about hatred and resentment. They'll spend every last penny they have if it helps destroy your way of life.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kel, post: 1460496, member: 17197"] I disagree. The long march through the institutions - which was not very long and had already been de facto underway when the "idea" was hatched - is complete. True believers are everywhere, from the sociopaths in the C-suite to the jannie schlubs who will work basically for free since they have nothing else going on in their lives. Even if the heads of these companies and organizations did suddenly have a coming-to-the-light moment and decide to end their attack on human dignity they could not stop the freight train despite ostensibly being "in charge", the momentum is too great. That's the nature of "the cathedral", it's an emergent power. To put it in concrete terms with a silly example (and hopefully without getting into an irrelevant argument about old political nonsense, this is just something everyone's familiar with): Twitter banned Trump a few months back. "It's a private company". He, obviously, does not want to, but imagine if Jack Dorsey - or, even, say a dozen of the top execs at Twitter all collectively - decided to ban Joe Biden (or even some lower-level retard. AOC, Rachel Maddow, Borat, take your pick), could he/they do it? No. They do not have that power. Strictly speaking, obviously, they do - they have the power to go to an employee and make them flip the switch in the admin console and for however long that account would be banned. But the cultural force around that would eat them alive. Their lives would be over before they even turned around. Despite being incredibly rich and ostensibly powerful, they are at the whim of the greater cultural moment. Money is only good for what it can buy. Money is a reasonable proxy for power, so in that sense it's "about money", but it's about hatred and resentment. They'll spend every last penny they have if it helps destroy your way of life. [/QUOTE]

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