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<blockquote data-quote="Fortis" data-source="post: 1078695" data-attributes="member: 7235"><p>As a black man, I have a pretty poor opinion of these guys. Sure, they are sorta red pill in some ways, but they still have a bit of a victim mentality. I know 1 HUGE hotep guy. He literally says, "hotep, power to the people." He's that deep into this shit. I'm not even joking. He's an older guy and very active in NJ community politics. I respect him for putting his money where his mouth is and being out on the streets, but he's ALWAYS whining about cultural appropriation and other conspiratorial shit. </p><p></p><p>He's the sort of guy who is deeply afrocentric. I don't mind that. Worship who you like, but I sometimes find the revisionist approach to history that they employ to be vexing. Don't get me wrong, give countries their due but to try and totally structure our conception of the modern world strictly around nebulous african concepts is a bit dishonest. To be honest, any sort of "centric" pisses me off: Anglo, afro, sino or slavo. Get the fuck over yourself and go do something.</p><p></p><p>Remember when that black teacher in a bad neighborhood came up with a special handshake for each of his students? He never commented on that, but the second a white teacher did the same thing to connect with her students he was flipping shit about it. I called him out on it because it's hypocritical to say that whites don't help in the hood and then get angry when a white person tries to imitate something that worked to help black students become more engaged and successful. </p><p></p><p>The other issue I have is that these guys are often proponents of Islam, but they aren't really true followers. I have a pretty neutral stance on Islam but I hate it when someone says that follow any doctrine but half-ass it. So many Hotep guys give themselves authenic African names and talk about Allah this and Allah that but they're out here drinking, smoking and fucking out of wedlock. Whether or not you like Islam or give a shit about it, that stuff isn't condoned in the book so that level of hypocrisy rubs me the wrong way. Keep it real. If you're an agnostic just say it. No need to front with the african names and the faux-islam.</p><p></p><p>This stuff goes back pretty deep in the black community. Hotep might be the name right now but there have been dudes hawking bean pies (for those of you who get that reference) in the barbershop trying to tell young black men about Allah and Islam since times immemorial. </p><p></p><p>The only thing I really like is that it's a philosophy that does try to put black sin an empowered position through their own effort. The biggest issue I have with black leadership is that our leaders cater to the mindset that we are owed things. Whether or not we are owed something it doesn't seem like that free shit is coming so we better do it for ourselves. Sadly, a lot of the Hotep stuff is deeply set in a victim mindset and I can't get down with it.</p><p></p><p>My verdict: Next.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fortis, post: 1078695, member: 7235"] As a black man, I have a pretty poor opinion of these guys. Sure, they are sorta red pill in some ways, but they still have a bit of a victim mentality. I know 1 HUGE hotep guy. He literally says, "hotep, power to the people." He's that deep into this shit. I'm not even joking. He's an older guy and very active in NJ community politics. I respect him for putting his money where his mouth is and being out on the streets, but he's ALWAYS whining about cultural appropriation and other conspiratorial shit. He's the sort of guy who is deeply afrocentric. I don't mind that. Worship who you like, but I sometimes find the revisionist approach to history that they employ to be vexing. Don't get me wrong, give countries their due but to try and totally structure our conception of the modern world strictly around nebulous african concepts is a bit dishonest. To be honest, any sort of "centric" pisses me off: Anglo, afro, sino or slavo. Get the fuck over yourself and go do something. Remember when that black teacher in a bad neighborhood came up with a special handshake for each of his students? He never commented on that, but the second a white teacher did the same thing to connect with her students he was flipping shit about it. I called him out on it because it's hypocritical to say that whites don't help in the hood and then get angry when a white person tries to imitate something that worked to help black students become more engaged and successful. The other issue I have is that these guys are often proponents of Islam, but they aren't really true followers. I have a pretty neutral stance on Islam but I hate it when someone says that follow any doctrine but half-ass it. So many Hotep guys give themselves authenic African names and talk about Allah this and Allah that but they're out here drinking, smoking and fucking out of wedlock. Whether or not you like Islam or give a shit about it, that stuff isn't condoned in the book so that level of hypocrisy rubs me the wrong way. Keep it real. If you're an agnostic just say it. No need to front with the african names and the faux-islam. This stuff goes back pretty deep in the black community. Hotep might be the name right now but there have been dudes hawking bean pies (for those of you who get that reference) in the barbershop trying to tell young black men about Allah and Islam since times immemorial. The only thing I really like is that it's a philosophy that does try to put black sin an empowered position through their own effort. The biggest issue I have with black leadership is that our leaders cater to the mindset that we are owed things. Whether or not we are owed something it doesn't seem like that free shit is coming so we better do it for ourselves. Sadly, a lot of the Hotep stuff is deeply set in a victim mindset and I can't get down with it. My verdict: Next. [/QUOTE]
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