In the spring when yahoo still allowed comments they had an article about when the fake killer flu might have made it to the US. I saved some responses. Just sharing for posterity.
Andrea
1 hour ago
In December our small town had a large outbreak of a respiratory illness that didn't test as Influenza A or B and hit shortly after the Italian owners of a local company came to visit. Over 80 kids in the small school got sick. Since the lock down and 'official' start of the virus according to the CDC and WHO we've had one case (in the last 9 weeks). The town doctor, who is highly trained and is young with lots of experience, is convinced that we had the corona virus outbreak in December.
My mom was sick in a large Midwest city (two states away from me) with a respiratory illness that had her in the hospital for over a week and nothing worked to get rid of it. Even when she had her worst bout of pneumonia a few years ago she only was up to 2 liters of oxygen, this time she was up to 6 liters. The illness didn't respond to usual treatment for pneumonia or bronchitis. She tested negative for flu. The hospital was so full that she was in an ER annex for two days. Something was going on and it wasn't the usual flu.
YesWeCan
2 hours ago
Visitors from Wuhan visited my business the first week in January. 100% of those that saw them were sick within a few days with a virus that lasted 5 weeks and included every symptom of the virus; several even losing their ability to smell and taste. Many were tested for flu due to the symptoms and all tested negative for flu. Were we contacted later regarding the possibility that we may have been exposed? No. Have some of us been tested for antibodies since? Yes...in fact we all show antibodies, yet none of us have shown any symptoms since recovering in February. Does any of that matter? No.
Easyeddieg
2 hours ago
There are documented cases in California where people who visited Italy in late October and early November later became sick with a flu like virus in mid November. They were tested for the flu, bronchitis and pneumonia to be safe and all tests were negative. There were also deaths and all of these cases were labeled as “respiratory infections” which is an ambiguous term for “we don’t know”.
Captain Awesome
2 hours ago
I worked at a food bank in Washington state 1 week before Christmas. There were 3 college students fresh in from China that I worked shoulder to shoulder with for 2 days. On Christmas Eve and in a matter of 60 minutes, I went from 100% to feeling like I got hit by a truck. I even went home and spent the holidays fighting something very aggressive, sore throat, headache and a cough that made me gag it was so hard. After about a week I felt on the other side, but that was false. It came back for another 2 week showing. The sore throat lasted almost 4 weeks. I’ve asked many, many times for an antibodies test to my GP to no avail. FYI, I’m 67 with heart failure and hypertension so I am a candidate for the test, but can’t find one.
D Money
2 hours ago
Some people that recovered from the virus, could’ve had it in December or November, but didn’t go to the hospital...that would be me. All the symptoms, but my body fought it off, and it took me from mid December, to mid January.
Mondsta
2 hours ago
November 2019 California local doctors were talking about an unknown virus very similar to the flu.
Martin
3 hours ago
My wife was sick with most likely Covid-19 Dec28 - Jan15, with negative test for flu. Had fever, dry cough, headaches and serious breathing issues. But convincing medical experts, with limited knowledge and motivation is another problem.
W John
3 hours ago
I have news for many of you. The odds are that each and everyone of you ( myself included) have been exposed to the Wuhan Flu.
If you simply take what facts we know: Wuhan Flu's initial outbreak was Nov of 2019, for the first 30-60 days China lied about it, it's virulence,etc.
We now know that it's infectious rate rate is 3.5.
So if 1 infected person left China and infected the 3.5 people,as predicted, and they each infected/ exposed 3.5 people,etc,etc. By day 30, 20,991,396,429,661,901 people have potentially been exposed. And with a global population of 7,594,000,000(as of 2018), the odds are quite favorable that you not only have been exposed, but infected with the Wuhan Flu.
And before you all go postal and discount my numbers,do the math yourself, but factor in an average of 250,000 Chinese tourists in the US every month. An additional 500,000 +/- work visa, and again the odds are in favor of several hundred times what the WHO, CDC and others currently predict.
Am I saying that everyone has either been exposed or contracted Wuhan Flu,no. But the odds are in favor of at least exposure.
Jen
3 hours ago
If the "official" earliest known case in China was Nov 17, it had to be on the move at least since Fall of 2019
FarnsworthCollinstruffle,III
2 hours ago
It has likely been here since November.
Which means that many were exposed long before we knew anything, and if we were going to "catch this with contact tracing", we would have had to know it was around in November.
Being that we were initially told it wasnt here until almost March, it means there is 4 months of unchecked, unfettered contacts between people and there is literally no way we can go back and find "patient Zero" and create a web of their contacts.
...which means that at this point, Contact Tracing is just a concept being used to get you to willingly give up more of your personal information.
That does not mean we should not be vigilant with how we act in public, wear appropriate masks and do what we can to socially distance ourselves, but it does mean we shouldn't jump forward and blatantly trust our elected officials with ANYTHING they say or try to do during this time.
Neither side really has our best interests at heart. Just their own.
Mondsta
2 hours ago
November 2019 California local doctors were talking about an unknown virus very similar to the flu.
Martin
3 hours ago
My wife was sick with most likely Covid-19 Dec28 - Jan15, with negative test for flu. Had fever, dry cough, headaches and serious breathing issues. But convincing medical experts, with limited knowledge and motivation is another problem.
W John
3 hours ago
I have news for many of you. The odds are that each and everyone of you ( myself included) have been exposed to the Wuhan Flu.
If you simply take what facts we know: Wuhan Flu's initial outbreak was Nov of 2019, for the first 30-60 days China lied about it, it's virulence,etc.
We now know that it's infectious rate rate is 3.5.
So if 1 infected person left China and infected the 3.5 people,as predicted, and they each infected/ exposed 3.5 people,etc,etc. By day 30, 20,991,396,429,661,901 people have potentially been exposed. And with a global population of 7,594,000,000(as of 2018), the odds are quite favorable that you not only have been exposed, but infected with the Wuhan Flu.
And before you all go postal and discount my numbers,do the math yourself, but factor in an average of 250,000 Chinese tourists in the US every month. An additional 500,000 +/- work visa, and again the odds are in favor of several hundred times what the WHO, CDC and others currently predict.
Am I saying that everyone has either been exposed or contracted Wuhan Flu,no. But the odds are in favor of at least exposure.
Jen
3 hours ago
If the "official" earliest known case in China was Nov 17, it had to be on the move at least since Fall of 2019
FarnsworthCollinstruffle,III
2 hours ago
It has likely been here since November.
Which means that many were exposed long before we knew anything, and if we were going to "catch this with contact tracing", we would have had to know it was around in November.
Being that we were initially told it wasnt here until almost March, it means there is 4 months of unchecked, unfettered contacts between people and there is literally no way we can go back and find "patient Zero" and create a web of their contacts.
...which means that at this point, Contact Tracing is just a concept being used to get you to willingly give up more of your personal information.
That does not mean we should not be vigilant with how we act in public, wear appropriate masks and do what we can to socially distance ourselves, but it does mean we shouldn't jump forward and blatantly trust our elected officials with ANYTHING they say or try to do during this time.
Neither side really has our best interests at heart. Just their own.
Ann
2 hours ago
We had schools in Texas shutting completely down In November due to an unusually large amount of flu cases?? Who’s willing to bet it was Covid 19.. it’s been here and around a lot longer than we’re being told.. I do believe that it’s an aggressive virus, highly contagious and deadly to those with health issues. That being said, it’s time to return to living.. you cannot avoid this but it can be mitigated by being smart in our return.. time to quit existing and start living.
Bodacious
3 hours ago
My wife was very ill in November. We thought it was the flu. She got so ill I had to take her to the doctor. She was Tested for Flu, the test was negative. The doctors told her she had a virus but they were never able to tell her exactly what it was.
Hope4change
2 hours ago
When there was a cluster of young adults who died from “ vaping” all within weeks and months of each other...not hearing about that now? Did they have the coronavirus and it was blamed on vaping?
jason
2 hours ago
Coronavirus came through my area Jan/ Feb. I got sick with the exact symptoms of coronavirus along with many family, friends and coworkers. People in my area tested positive for coronavirus antibodies which proves it had already come through.
hersbar
3 hours ago
All data on this virus has been coming in weeks late. Therefore if the 1st cases from Wuhan were discovered in mid January. The virus could've been in the US as early as Christmas or right before Christmas.
lourdgoogoo
3 hours ago
My buddy from Florida was very sick back in January. At the time he thought it was the flu, but later he realized that his symptoms were the same as Wuhan. He thought that he caught it on an airplane. When he told me about it, I figured no way because it didn't get to the States that early. Now I think that he really did have the Wuhan. Some of his family got sick but not as bad as he did.
Patricia
1 hour ago
We are going to figure out this virus was running around far earlier. I have a friend, a resident of Snohomish County WA, who became ill on Dec 28 and now tests positive for the antibody, along with her newborn child. My friend became ill after one of her coworkers became sick before Christmas and was ultimately hospitalized with double pneumonia. The coworker was never tested for Coronavirus and has not yet been tested for the antibody. I hope the Everett hospital where the coworker was hospitalized will backtrack and test their patients with what now present as Covid-19 symptoms. My friend and her child are included in a Study being conducted on the effects of Coronavirus on pregnant women and their babies.
Mike
2 hours ago
How long does it take to fly from China to the US. That's how long after China's first cases before the US was exposed to the virus.
Tamera
4 hours ago
I had respiratory issues for over a month I thought it was allergies we just moved from Az to Mi. at times it felt like I was drowning. I did not go to dr. due to insurance issues. this was the month of October into thanks giving.