The Incoming Food Shortages
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Another Blow to the US Food Market: Fire Breaks Out at a Food Processing Plant West of Waupaca County in Wisconsin
A fire ignited inside a food manufacturing facility in the town of Belmont near the Portage-Waupaca County, Wisconsin on Monday. Multiple fire departments responded to a fire at Festive Foods on County Highway D around 9 a.m., WSAW-TV reported. The company owner and president, Mike Holmgren...
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Will there also be seed shortages? I don't have any plot of land now unfortunately. I want to purchase one in this year though, and start growing my own vegetables. I was wondering, will there be seed shortages in this year or the next one? I know several websites which sell seeds of ancient non-GMO varieties of vegetables. I was wondering, should I be buying their seeds now. My dad tells me, "you don't have a plot of land, why buy seeds?" Perhaps there will be shortages of seeds in the near future? I don't know how to answer my dad. I don't know, should I buy some seeds now (they'll keep for a long time), or wait until later, when I'm actually ready to sow on my new plot of land?
Buy some heirloom seeds and rest better. You may not have a plot of land but there's always an empty field or underused backyard. Seeds are cheap, store well, and you can get lots of local info on how to grow (or just buy some gardening books at an estate sale). Just buy things that grow well in your ag zone. The real problem will be securing your garden in the event of a true hunger event. Tomato rustlers...
Recently, we've made 3 types of jam/jelly. Fruit/berries, sugar, pectin, and clean old jars (not even the fancy ones). It was easier than I thought. Next, we'll pickle some tomatoes and cucumbers, maybe other veggies and even boiled eggs. Of course, a big jar of local honey will last years. If I have to, I'll put in a garden as need dictates, but I want to be able to preserve these nutrients through the next winter. There are several very easy bread recipes out there. A few bags of flour, yeast, and eggs can last one man months for bread needs. I'd hate for it to come to all that, but it is good to have options.
Lazy man pickle-trick: Buy a jar of pickles and drop slices of cucumbers into the jar as you eat the originals. Basically you are using the brine as a pot for more product. You can double up, at least.
Farming Thread had good ideas on heirloom seeds.
The week after we made apricot jelly, we found a neighborhood apricot tree dropping excellent product on the sidewalk. It reminded me to keep an eye out.
Lazy man pickle-trick: Buy a jar of pickles and drop slices of cucumbers into the jar as you eat the originals. Basically you are using the brine as a pot for more product. You can double up, at least.
Farming Thread had good ideas on heirloom seeds.
The week after we made apricot jelly, we found a neighborhood apricot tree dropping excellent product on the sidewalk. It reminded me to keep an eye out.
I have begun stockpiling meat. Every time I go to the shops for food, I buy extra meat to freeze. The idea is to have a giant meat freezer filled at all times with meat for the coming times. In that freezer is a selection of home-made MRE's, so delicious pre-cooked meals are always at hand
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By the way, I found out that the Philippine government made barter trade illegal two years ago, a few months when the lockdowns started and the people are looking for ways to bring food for their families. The excuse is that with no currency being exchanged in barter transactions the government cannot tax them, and are thus considered tax evasion. I don't know how if this prohibition is still in effect.
But this should be a warning to the peoples of the West that the elites and their bureaucratic henchmen will do the same thing, cracking down against people exchanging goods with each other without fiat currency. I understand it now, bartering combined with producing and buying local is the one weapon that the people have against the current financial order. You guys gonna have to exercise your 2A if the cops and IRS paper pushers try to stop you from bartering
But this should be a warning to the peoples of the West that the elites and their bureaucratic henchmen will do the same thing, cracking down against people exchanging goods with each other without fiat currency. I understand it now, bartering combined with producing and buying local is the one weapon that the people have against the current financial order. You guys gonna have to exercise your 2A if the cops and IRS paper pushers try to stop you from bartering
Is anyone doing anything outside of buying perishable meat and freezing it?
absolutely a good idea... but not enough. You dont need to be completely self sufficient.... but you need to ween yourself off the idea that you can trade with others (via the grocery store) with out offering anything.
I am not saying you need to own your own farm... but if youre not atleast semi-self reliaint... you are wayyyyy behind the powercurve.
For those in apartments, look at things that can be grown with window sunshine. For those renting on a property, make a raised bed garden on your back yard. For those who own a house: utilize all the land you have available to you.
I'm willing to bet 9/10ths of the folks will read this and still do nothing to increase their self reliance.
absolutely a good idea... but not enough. You dont need to be completely self sufficient.... but you need to ween yourself off the idea that you can trade with others (via the grocery store) with out offering anything.
I am not saying you need to own your own farm... but if youre not atleast semi-self reliaint... you are wayyyyy behind the powercurve.
For those in apartments, look at things that can be grown with window sunshine. For those renting on a property, make a raised bed garden on your back yard. For those who own a house: utilize all the land you have available to you.
I'm willing to bet 9/10ths of the folks will read this and still do nothing to increase their self reliance.
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Good idea.. For me, growing or hunting enough to be self sufficient won't leave much time for a job or income unless you are already a farmer... Being able to grow 1% means I have most of the knowledge to scale that to 50% if that becomes necessary, for me that would be when a working income no longer can buy quality food. Going from 0% to 1% is the most important step. Also, your home crops will be much more nutritious, since you should be growing in nutrient rich soil, instead of barren dirt mixed with petroleum and pesticides.
I've been trying to increase my self provided calories and it isn't easy... but have found root crops to be fairly low maintenance and long storing, as well as calorie dense. Potatoes, carrots, parsnips. Some fruit like fig trees and blueberries are quite low maintenance and productive if you have the right soil.
As far as hunting, deer in my area are the best time hunting VS calorie tradeoff. If you don't hunt, maybe a friend does and will share the cuts they don't like...many I know don't eat the heart or liver, which are the most nutritious and some of the best tasting parts to me.
Easy_C
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Yep. We’re slowly working on breaking in my property. I’ve got a lot that I’m slowly tilling in. It’s full of entrenched Bermuda grass so it takes some time and multiple till passes to get rid of, but it’s going.
We’re also going to be installing a chicken coop and rabbit tractor next year + fruit trees.
Very good. We are moving into our property next month. Goal for this year is to have the rotating tractor coups for ducks/chickens for meat and eggs, along with rabbits for meat and goats for milk all set up within our first year on the property. (Also bee hive for tax exemptions)
Property had orange bananas and a few other trees. Wife has aleady made several connections through various farmers markets for locals. I'm very fortunate she has a strong background in Ag and is passionate about doing all this because I am not sure I'd be able to set it all up on my own.
For me it's less about subsistence and more about offering a barter tool and local networking. Trading eggs or meat for services is a no brainer as inflation continues. If I can add some anti fragility into my infastructure I am more independent for hard times.
The goal isn't to go completely off the grid, just to be able to sustain self for periods of time with out being plugged into the revolving food supermarket matrix AND most importantly to teach my 5 boys the value of the food they eat and the labor involved....
Easy_C
Peacock
Barter skills are a bit hard, but I think where I come in is that it's myself and a local instructor who have by far the best qualifications in the security area. I have experience working on the training and organization of rural militias overseas so, unlike most internet "tough guys", the low security environment militia thing is something I actually know how to set up and run. I'm making sure to be involved in the town here now so I don't need to forge relationships in a hurry.
That would be an interesting thread, Easy_C, if it can be done without doxxing yourself.
Glad to hear guys are doing things. I have a decent stock, but want to grow produce. I'm moving to walking distance from my church in the next month, and will be able to garden and keep chickens. It has a berry tree and grapevine.
I'd hope the men of our church would do such things in a cooperative fashion, kind of Amish style. Our church has some extra land and we have one farmer with a tractor. He can plow if the church decides to set in a big garden. We've talked some about it but not done much. This fall I will plant some fruit trees at the back of the lot. If SHTF happens, there will be lots of businesses closing. This means open man-hours and people that need food. Hopefully, they can help and be helped.
I'm considering getting a few small game/varmint traps. Even in industrial areas I have seen: raccoons, skunk (no thanks), rabbits, squirrel, and even a bobcat. Traps work while you are away.
Yep. Sounds like we are in similar situations. For me i lean to being able to translate my hard .mil skills into preparing community organized groups in the future, but expect my other half/church to get those pathways established. Physical security and communication is something very simple for folks like us but completely foreign to the neophytes...
I'm sure you're already doing so, but for folks who haven't done this.. Wife and I mapped out our contacts list for categories and tried to figure out what unique thing they can offer us and us them.
I am skeptical that things are going to collapse in my region of the US... But having awareness and those relationships mapped out before the going gets tough is critical.
Slightly off topic... But barter isn't a thing. It was never used historically, it was just an economic theory before the origins of money was understood. Even prisoners use currency or credit, they don't barter. The loss of time is such a large opportunity cost that it can't work as an economic system.
Before money was developed, credit was used, which led to the development of writing. Pre agricultural hunting tribes also used credit...this was reputation (a community small enough that everyone could keep track mentally, no need for writing or money.)
Before money was developed, credit was used, which led to the development of writing. Pre agricultural hunting tribes also used credit...this was reputation (a community small enough that everyone could keep track mentally, no need for writing or money.)
Transformer fire. No effect on the power grid according to dam officials.
Hoover Dam transformer explodes; no one hurt
BOULDER CITY, Nev. (AP) — A transformer exploded Tuesday at Hoover Dam, producing a cloud of thick, black smoke and flames that were quickly extinguished. No one was hurt and electricity continued to flow from one of the nation’s largest hydroelectric facilities, authorities said.
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No food shortages yet, just a lot of inflation. Really makes you appreciate the value of money.