The inexorable decline of American cities

Roosh

Cardinal
We have a Clown World thread that highlights worldwide insanity. We can also have a thread that shows the decline in American cities via crime, shootings/stabbings, drug use, traffic, infrastructure collapse, and an overall decreasing standard of living.

In San Francisco, car robbery is a major issue. The politicians have reduced penalties for such crimes, which means criminals can rob with impunity.


Homeless man in blue shirt in Austin reveals what those electric scooters are capable of.


If you have a story to tell about a major US city and how it has changed over the past few years, post here.
 

Thomas More

Hummingbird
Denver has a lot of gays and lesbians, but otherwise crime is low, and the economy is strong. There are a lot of good bars, restaurants, and attractions like sports, concerts, theatre, museums, parks, festivals, etc.
I will say that rent is very high, but there are a lot of nice apartments. Traffic is not as bad as other cities I've known. Parking is expensive downtown, but no problem elsewhere.
It's still clown world here, but way better than the kinds of problems in places like SF or LA.
 

Jeans

Sparrow
I can say NYC has none of these kinds of problems with crime or (rampant) homelessness. It is also prohibitively expensive for most and a true police state. It is only in the last few years that unconstitutional random search and seizures were outlawed. I personally have been arrested more than once, and forced to spend 12+ hours in detention for incredibly minor infractions that would be overlooked or at most produce a modest fine in most other US cities.
 

An0dyne

Robin
Jeans said:
I can say NYC has none of these kinds of problems with crime or (rampant) homelessness. It is also prohibitively expensive for most and a true police state. It is only in the last few years that unconstitutional random search and seizures were outlawed. I personally have been arrested more than once, and forced to spend 12+ hours in detention for incredibly minor infractions that would be overlooked or at most produce a modest fine in most other US cities.

Do you think the lower (statistically) levels of crime and homelessness are owed to the (previous?) police state-like culture? Do you think with the ban on stop and frisk, etc. will result in NYC moving in the direction of other major cities?
 

JiggyLordJr

Kingfisher
NYC has declined so far that it's barely recognizable from when I grew up there. All of the middle class locals - who were born, raised, and continued to live in their neighborhood - have been forced out by astronomical, artificial rent increases. Apple-loving yuppies have since replaced them, raising the price of everything substantially, while the quality of goods and services has either stayed the same or gone down. Because we own property, we held our ground, but even so, our quality of life tok a hit as the city around us showed signs of crumbling.

Crumbling how? Culturally and quite literally - the buildings and streets are actually falling apart, with potholes abound in major roads/intersections. The air is terrible, even borderline unbreathable. Many cases of asbestos have arisen in long-term NY residents. And the amount of new homeless people I've seen around the city is nothing short of shocking. They basically occupy any vacant space in the warm months, and migrate down into the subway cars when it starts to get cold. The increase in homeless people is probably one of the biggest indicators of a city in decline. SF and Seattle are a few other shining examples of this troubling trend.

The last thing worth mentioning is the rampant alcoholism/depression among NYCs inhabitants. I remember seeing smiling faces growing up, and being part of the local community. Now everyone holes up at home with their $2000 iCuck devices, completely alienated from each other and the city at large. Right before I left, I remember only seeing looks of pure misery and despair on the face of morning commuters. That's when I knew I had to get the hell out - moving to a more wholesome European city was one of the best decisions I ever made.

Thinking about moving to NYC? Go for the experience, but have a solid escape plan in your back pocket. You'll probably need it.
 
Currently living in LA. The amount of people here is getting insane and it takes an hour to go 7 miles. Apparently 1/4 of the money of the county is going to welfare for people that shouldn’t be here in the first place. It’s hard to care about these people when they flood my country, demand changing the language from English to Spanish, and have little regard for assimilating. So now I have to look at and live with these people whom I have nothing in common and just accept that it is what it is. I’m not quite sure what to do but my white flight is kicking in I can feel it, but then again it starts here but god only knows where this ends. They’ll soon be voting themselves into Power and creating the laws we live under, all under our own dollar. White tax laws? Illegal for white women to have white babies? The possibilities are endless. Maybe the Mexicans and blacks will start to kill each other before then who knows.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/l-a-paid-1-3-billion-in-taxpayer-money-to-illegal-aliens-via-welfare
“The sanctuary county of Los Angeles draws foreigners who enter the United States illegally and now has the largest concentration of any county ​in the nation, according to a study from the Migration Policy Institute. ​Illegal aliens in the county are allowed to receive welfare and food stamp benefits.”
 

Aurini

Ostrich
I've had two property crimes committed against me in the past two years, here in Calgary, Albeta.

First, an immigrant my ex-roomate was (idiotically) trying to help out, broke in to my house and stole his dog, and some minor items. The police refused to file a report because there was no proof of a break-in. Said immigrant had earlier assaulted my roommate, and put him in the hospital, with possible brain damage (hard to tell, because he wasn't too bright to begin with).

Second, had my car broken into. They stole my first aid kit (military pattern on it, I think they thought it was a weapon), and a really crummy jack knife. Broke my cup holder. Didn't bother reporting this one.
 

Hypno

Crow
Western civilization is declining. You see this same stuff in rural areas but they just have less media. Petty crime, drug addiction, homeless, deviance. Mass immigration of shit holies has accelerated this trend.

The whole point of the forced immigration is to destroy the US. If the US was the last decent, free country and it was succeeding, then it would be an example for others to emulate.
 

DogLover

Sparrow
JiggyLordJr said:
NYC has declined so far that it's barely recognizable from when I grew up there. All of the middle class locals - who were born, raised, and continued to live in their neighborhood - have been forced out by astronomical, artificial rent increases.

What is artificial about them? And what neighborhoods are you speaking of? Manhattan has been gentrified and expensive since the early 90's. You may not be old enough to remember this, but before that a lot of it was a shithole. Crime was rampant and you couldn't drive in or out of the city without being harassed by guys with dirty rags purporting to clean you windshield, but really just shaking you down for a dollar (the windshield was dirtier after they were done). SO, I'm guessing you're talking about Queens? Brooklyn?

JiggyLordJr said:
our quality of life tok a hit as the city around us showed signs of crumbling. Crumbling how? Culturally and quite literally - the buildings and streets are actually falling apart, with potholes abound in major roads/intersections. The air is terrible, even borderline unbreathable.
Ummmm....i've lived here the better part of 50 years, and would say the exact opposite has happened. With all the new construction, what exactly is "crumbling". It is, admittedly, much more expensive. But there are nicer (and more affordable) places to live in NJ, Long Island, and Westchester.

JiggyLordJr said:
And the amount of new homeless people I've seen around the city is nothing short of shocking....SF and Seattle are a few other shining examples of this troubling trend.

Homeless under DiBlasio is higher than under Bloomberg, when it was virtually non-existent. But it is a FRACTION of what it was in the 70's and 80's, and NO WHERE NEAR what they have in San Francisco. Not in Manhattan, anyway ...what NYC neighborhood are you speaking of??
 

Captainstabbin

Hummingbird
wsquared said:
Apparently 1/4 of the money of the county is going to welfare for people that shouldn’t be here in the first place. It’s hard to care about these people when they flood my country, demand changing the language from English to Spanish, and have little regard for assimilating. So now I have to look at and live with these people whom I have nothing in common and just accept that it is what it is. I’m not quite sure what to do but my white flight is kicking in I can feel it

There are some small pockets left in LA where you can live relatively free of the invasion. Since I left LA, the rent in these areas is up 2-3 times what it was. It's crazy to imagine how nice the city would be without all the illegals.
 

Douglas Quaid

Kingfisher
The biggest problem I've noticed in large cities is the insane ideology of the people living in them, and how that ideology is making them miserable. The unfortunate thing is most of them are too far gone and brainwashed to change their mindset, or realize they're voting for their own destruction.

I live in Seattle, and it's a shame to see what it's turned into. Socialists, rainbow flags everywhere, bums, people addicted to tech, crime, drugs and filth everywhere. You can tell it used to be normal here, but now it's like a freak show and well past the point of no return. You can see the misery in everyone's eyes too.

I'm from Chicago, which sucks ass too, but the West Coast is ground zero of degeneracy and these stupid Californians are spreading it all over. I stopped in Denver before Seattle. It wasn't as bad, but it will get there.
 

Dr. Howard

Peacock
Gold Member
DogLover said:
JiggyLordJr said:
NYC has declined so far that it's barely recognizable from when I grew up there. All of the middle class locals - who were born, raised, and continued to live in their neighborhood - have been forced out by astronomical, artificial rent increases.

What is artificial about them? And what neighborhoods are you speaking of? Manhattan has been gentrified and expensive since the early 90's. You may not be old enough to remember this, but before that a lot of it was a shithole. Crime was rampant and you couldn't drive in or out of the city without being harassed by guys with dirty rags purporting to clean you windshield, but really just shaking you down for a dollar (the windshield was dirtier after they were done). SO, I'm guessing you're talking about Queens? Brooklyn?

JiggyLordJr said:
our quality of life tok a hit as the city around us showed signs of crumbling. Crumbling how? Culturally and quite literally - the buildings and streets are actually falling apart, with potholes abound in major roads/intersections. The air is terrible, even borderline unbreathable.
Ummmm....i've lived here the better part of 50 years, and would say the exact opposite has happened. With all the new construction, what exactly is "crumbling". It is, admittedly, much more expensive. But there are nicer (and more affordable) places to live in NJ, Long Island, and Westchester.

JiggyLordJr said:
And the amount of new homeless people I've seen around the city is nothing short of shocking....SF and Seattle are a few other shining examples of this troubling trend.

Homeless under DiBlasio is higher than under Bloomberg, when it was virtually non-existent. But it is a FRACTION of what it was in the 70's and 80's, and NO WHERE NEAR what they have in San Francisco. Not in Manhattan, anyway ...what NYC neighborhood are you speaking of??

I was going to add a similar perspective. I think we are just seeing things change.

NYC was the 'detroit' of america through the 80s. Nashville was pretty terrible. Detroit was losing jobs, but still nice, so was Flint, Gary, Milwaukee, upper minnesota, southern Wisconsin.

Fast forward 40 years. Those midwest areas did not improve and are crime ridden. NYC did experience renewal.

Its my opinion that Detroit and Milwaukee are on the verge of renewal along with other midwest cities. In 15 years they will be the "austin TX and asheville NC" kind of places that hipsters move to and then overprice and then wreck.

40-50 years from now, unless America collapses or has a civil war San Francisco and LA will have hipster types 'rediscovering' them again.

When I was a teenager I listened to a talk by some economist or urban planner and he talked about cycles of cities that go from establishment, to industrialization, to economic downtown, to crime infested, to 'hipster cool', to bustling again, to be left again when everyone wants to be there and the prices become too high relative to other parts of the country.

What I think is different this time around is the insane 'head in the sand'/self hatred that liberals in the declining cities currently have. They will put themselves right in the line of fire/conflict with the decline whereas previous generations were smart enough to engage in 'white flight'
 

RexImperator

Crow
Gold Member
Trump has been deporting illegals who have any kind of police record. In order to protect the illegal aliens from deportation, a lot of these left-wing sanctuary cities are decriminalizing or not enforcing certain crimes, which they would otherwise lead to the aliens being arrested (“disproportionally impacting persons of color”)... Hence the criminals can act with some impunity.

Having your car not broken into is another name for evil white supremacy.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
LEMONed IScream said:
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Salinger

Woodpecker
wsquared said:
Currently living in LA. The amount of people here is getting insane and it takes an hour to go 7 miles. Apparently 1/4 of the money of the county is going to welfare for people that shouldn’t be here in the first place. It’s hard to care about these people when they flood my country, demand changing the language from English to Spanish, and have little regard for assimilating. So now I have to look at and live with these people whom I have nothing in common and just accept that it is what it is. I’m not quite sure what to do but my white flight is kicking in I can feel it, but then again it starts here but god only knows where this ends. They’ll soon be voting themselves into Power and creating the laws we live under, all under our own dollar. White tax laws? Illegal for white women to have white babies? The possibilities are endless. Maybe the Mexicans and blacks will start to kill each other before then who knows.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/l-a-paid-1-3-billion-in-taxpayer-money-to-illegal-aliens-via-welfare
“The sanctuary county of Los Angeles draws foreigners who enter the United States illegally and now has the largest concentration of any county ​in the nation, according to a study from the Migration Policy Institute. ​Illegal aliens in the county are allowed to receive welfare and food stamp benefits.”

One thing that's never talked about is how hospitals are overburdened with these illegals who get free medical care.

Imagine going into the emergency room and having to wait to see a doctor because you have a bunch of illegals who are in line before you.

So not only do you have to wait behind them, you get hit with a huge bill while your taxes pay for theirs.
 

Sherman

Ostrich
On the medical issue, there are thousands of Americans who live in Mexico who have low incomes or are retired. They aren't eligible for California Medi-cal even though they are American citizens, because they aren't resident in California. So if you are an illegal resident in California, you get free medical care, but an American citizen living in Mexico because he can't afford San Diego isn't eligible. But where are people living who come into the US illegally when normal citizens can't afford to live there?
 

The Wire

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Funniest (saddest) part of this video was that Inside Edition was doing a story on this, their equipment got stolen from their van.


 
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