The inexorable decline of American cities

I kinda give them a pass there though given their ethnic/cultural ties to Ukraine and recent historical experiences with Russia (yes, it was the (((USSR))) wearing Russia as a skin suit, but most people aren't going to make that distinction and many of the Soviet soldiers committing atrocities in Poland were actually ethnic Russians anyway)
I think their cultural ties to Ukraine are that the Ukrainian people have always been willing to commit geocide against Polish people and conquer their territory, and have done so in living memory, and the Polish people feel the same towards Ukraine, and hope to do so now.

However, they do share a hate for Russia.
 
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I can't imagine why people living in an apartment would want to live with a dog. Many people do not clean up after them in my neighborhood and it's been an ongoing problem. Why anyone would introduce a responsibility of a dog in their life is beyond me. Rain or freezing cold you have to walk the thing. Unless you have property to let the animal run around on, a dog sounds like a bad idea to me. People are taking their dogs everywhere now including stores.

I can't stand dogs...
I have two toy poodles and I have to fight the urge to not murder them ever day but my wife would not like that. At least pet owners clean up after their dogs here.
 
I was watching some footage of neighborhoods in Phillie, but one can find these around all of the country. I was kinda gobsmacked by it, for I know there's poverty in the US obviously, but seeing these scenes is like scenes from a zombie apocalypse videogame. Western EU has a lot to be argued against from a perspective of being too commi with regards to social welfare policies, but you won't find any of these imagery. In the Netherlands, there's quite some bad neighborhoods since the mass migration of the last decades, but it'll still be quite clean and new, with the gov investing in it. It seems that in the US these neighborhoods have been just not getting any attention for 30-40-50 years. I'd be interested to hear you guys perspective on this situation that's so prevalent in inner US cities.

 
I was watching some footage of neighborhoods in Phillie, but one can find these around all of the country. I was kinda gobsmacked by it, for I know there's poverty in the US obviously, but seeing these scenes is like scenes from a zombie apocalypse videogame. Western EU has a lot to be argued against from a perspective of being too commi with regards to social welfare policies, but you won't find any of these imagery. In the Netherlands, there's quite some bad neighborhoods since the mass migration of the last decades, but it'll still be quite clean and new, with the gov investing in it. It seems that in the US these neighborhoods have been just not getting any attention for 30-40-50 years. I'd be interested to hear you guys perspective on this situation that's so prevalent in inner US cities.



World gave $Trillions to Africa and that continent is still a $#!thole. The worst neighborhoods in US, you can guess, have the same demographics.

You can't compare countries in Europe with small population and land area. Netherlands is one of the richest countries in the world. But as you mentioned, certain demographic will turn a good area into a bad one.
 
World gave $Trillions to Africa and that continent is still a $#!thole. The worst neighborhoods in US, you can guess, have the same demographics.

You can't compare countries in Europe with small population and land area. Netherlands is one of the richest countries in the world. But as you mentioned, certain demographic will turn a good area into a bad one.
Well that's true, but the US officially still is the richest in the world, although overall it's fairly similar to Western-EU. Difference is just that the wealth is heavily redistributed here, with taxes going easily up to 50-60 percent if you earn above average. But our big cities also are 50% non-Western immigrant at this point - and it's gonna be more with the youth demographics. A city like Frankfurt has 70% under 18 being non-Western, but also in the Netherlands big cities have 50% non-Western immigrants. Recent migration from the Middle-East and Africa, but also lots of immigration already in the 70s etc from countries like Suriname/Dutch Antilles, former colonies. So if you're white and you go to Rotterdam, you'll think you're in Africa and you're the only white person. But still, the incredible scenes of above we're fortunate not to have here, which seems to be one somewhat positive factor of wealth distribution to a degree. But also I think that it plays a role that you guys in the US have such heavy drug agendas pushed against the population, including mainstream medicine that just makes people addicted. These things are way more regulated here with medicine especially - yes there's recreational drug use that's allowed, but it doesn't result in people becoming addicts and living on the street. I think that all the opioid/fentanyl stuff etc is still largely an American phenomenon.
 
I read they might turn Wal marts and big buildings into fema camps.

Im concerned about my family, what are the chances of this happening?
 
Well that's true, but the US officially still is the richest in the world, although overall it's fairly similar to Western-EU. Difference is just that the wealth is heavily redistributed here, with taxes going easily up to 50-60 percent if you earn above average. But our big cities also are 50% non-Western immigrant at this point - and it's gonna be more with the youth demographics. A city like Frankfurt has 70% under 18 being non-Western, but also in the Netherlands big cities have 50% non-Western immigrants. Recent migration from the Middle-East and Africa, but also lots of immigration already in the 70s etc from countries like Suriname/Dutch Antilles, former colonies. So if you're white and you go to Rotterdam, you'll think you're in Africa and you're the only white person. But still, the incredible scenes of above we're fortunate not to have here, which seems to be one somewhat positive factor of wealth distribution to a degree. But also I think that it plays a role that you guys in the US have such heavy drug agendas pushed against the population, including mainstream medicine that just makes people addicted. These things are way more regulated here with medicine especially - yes there's recreational drug use that's allowed, but it doesn't result in people becoming addicts and living on the street. I think that all the opioid/fentanyl stuff etc is still largely an American phenomenon.
Give it another 20 years and Frankfurt or Rotterdam are going to look very similar to what you saw in the Philly video.
 
Much of my family is from Chicago's southside or south suburbs. Most of the south side of the city is a ghetto hellhole, and much of the south suburbs. It's crazy to think about now, but these used to be clean, safe neighborhoods and some of the best places to live in Chicagoland.

My grandfather was not happy when blacks started moving into the nicer south suburbs, like he knew what was going to happen. And has time has passed, he was absolutely right. The quality of life is deteriorating in towns that used to be great places to live.

It's unfair to the individual blacks that don't destroy places, but when large groups start moving in nature will eventually take place. Every time.
 
...But also I think that it plays a role that you guys in the US have such heavy drug agendas pushed against the population, including mainstream medicine that just makes people addicted. These things are way more regulated here with medicine especially - yes there's recreational drug use that's allowed, but it doesn't result in people becoming addicts and living on the street. I think that all the opioid/fentanyl stuff etc is still largely an American phenomenon.

You might be right. It's unfurtunate having areas like the video posted previously in a country with so much resources like the US.

A smilar problem that many times is correlated, is homelessness. How Netherlands deal with such problem? Do you think that solution would be viable in a country as big as US? Same with prisons. They show on TV how prisons are nice in Austria like that model would work in the Americas or even in a big country like France.

US gives you more freedom (less taxes) and opportunity to succeed if you have the ambition.
Money: I make +$100k/year with a blue-collar job. In Europe I would be making $20k to $30k max. Even a waitress makes more than that here in the States.
Health: My health insurance is a small percentage of what I make and give me access to great doctors without having to wait for care if I need specialized surgery. But without insurance you would be heavily penalized here. Still, they're not going to deny care if you need surgery after a car accident like they make you believe (you'll go bankrupt but stay alive). My friends in Europe (Portugal/Spain/Germany/Italy/UK) don't have the quality of care I have here. And they pay a higher percentage of their income compared to me, even with white-collar jobs.

US is the land of opportunity and will reward the ambitious. Government will not hold your hand through life and will penalize you if you're not a capable person. The problem with trying to make US offer more welfare to its citizens (like Europe does) means it will penalize the capable ones by taxing them more. I already lose almost $20k from my salary every year to support unproductive people. I never seen anything that resembles the video above in person here in the States. I rather keep 80% of my salary than keeping only 50% and know that there are not areas like that here. Just like Little Havana (like many other Little Something) in Florida, I would call those $#!thole places Little Africa and go on with my life.

Western propaganda portrais US as a woke country with ignorant obese people, with high crime (gun violence), bad healthcare, etc.
 
Well that's true, but the US officially still is the richest in the world, although overall it's fairly similar to Western-EU. Difference is just that the wealth is heavily redistributed here, with taxes going easily up to 50-60 percent if you earn above average. But our big cities also are 50% non-Western immigrant at this point - and it's gonna be more with the youth demographics. A city like Frankfurt has 70% under 18 being non-Western, but also in the Netherlands big cities have 50% non-Western immigrants. Recent migration from the Middle-East and Africa, but also lots of immigration already in the 70s etc from countries like Suriname/Dutch Antilles, former colonies. So if you're white and you go to Rotterdam, you'll think you're in Africa and you're the only white person. But still, the incredible scenes of above we're fortunate not to have here, which seems to be one somewhat positive factor of wealth distribution to a degree. But also I think that it plays a role that you guys in the US have such heavy drug agendas pushed against the population, including mainstream medicine that just makes people addicted. These things are way more regulated here with medicine especially - yes there's recreational drug use that's allowed, but it doesn't result in people becoming addicts and living on the street. I think that all the opioid/fentanyl stuff etc is still largely an American phenomenon.

Nearly 50% of America is depenedents. In Europe the amount of dependents is still below 20% in most countries.

Of course it's way easier to take care of your slave class when there's fewer of them.

Also, that video of Philly looks positively lovely compared to real winners like Detroit or Baltimore. Baltimore has trees growing out of second story windows in abandoned houses people still live in.
 
Health: My health insurance is a small percentage of what I make and give me access to great doctors without having to wait for care if I need specialized surgery. But without insurance you would be heavily penalized here. Still, they're not going to deny care if you need surgery after a car accident like they make you believe (you'll go bankrupt but stay alive). My friends in Europe (Portugal/Spain/Germany/Italy/UK) don't have the quality of care I have here. And they pay a higher percentage of their income compared to me, even with white-collar jobs.
I find it hard to believe that you can't get comparable health care in Italy vs the US.

Do Italians have to wait an average of 3+ hours to see an emergency room doctor like they do here?
 
I find it hard to believe that you can't get comparable health care in Italy vs the US.

Do Italians have to wait an average of 3+ hours to see an emergency room doctor like they do here?

I have friends and family members who happen to be doctors so I hear their perspective a lot.

If you get into an accident and let's say, break a leg when falling from a bicycle, any doctor can fix it. But if you have some rare desease, cancer, need heart/brain surgery... most likely the best doctors in the world will be in the States. Same for medical research. You can bet any respected doctor (or professor) in their respective country has some kind of study in the States, be it doctorade, phd, short course, etc.


This video is a little anecdotal but it compares with Canada (I don't know how's their healthcare but It's considered one the best):
 
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