The inexorable decline of American cities

Possibly. Regarding remote working, it goes like this. Central Business District (CBD) office space, i.e. Park Ave Manhattan or downtown SFO, is very expensive. They call it AAA space. Also, the contracts are long-term, nearly a decade or more in some instances. This is a very substantial line item in the balance sheet. Covid revealed to us that conventional technologies make it possible to work, pretty much, from anywhere, this presents an irresistible opportunity for corporate CFOs to minimize this liability. And, in fact, possibly remove it entirely. I've seen a couple of companies that are 100% remote. Even if productivity goes down that can be offset by how much money the company can save, plus, the increase in equity value due to the fatter operating margins.

As it pertains to repurposing latent office space etc, that's a good idea and perhaps that will happen. And perhaps it will reduce or lessen homelessness, heck, even eliminate it. Again, the incentive to not purchase CBD real estate is compelling and, furthermore, even if company's don't go entirely remote they will partially go remote. It only takes one high-value hire that insists to be remote to sway that dynamic. I could see companies using remote as a signing bonus. So, overall physical footprints should go down. Also, if the location is irrelevant, then, why bother with CBD in favor of less expensive CRE outside of the city?

I think CBD and, for that matter, cities are going through a fundamental disruption. The necessity to be in the center of it all isn't there and the money you can save from not being there is even more compelling. You really don't need a massive CRE footprint any longer.

This points towards a disappointing future for cities and I think we're seeing it take shape right now.
As remote work entrenches itself fewer commuters will go to the cities. Fewer companies renting office space, fewer people, less tax revenue means more dysfunction and you have a systematic decline. Even if all the homeless find shelter in a once-bustling office building, don't expect it to be pleasant and nice.

Its already a literal hellscape and its only going to get worse.
Excellent summary of what is happening in CBDs! Thanks, Towgunner.

It is strange that it took this long for the internet to hit "downtown" so hard. People have been able to work remotely for years, but CV forced the situation. Now, the inner CBD decay is real. You can only have so many soy latte shops, especially in proximity to office spaces repurposed for homeless.

Although CBDs seem to get hit hard, does that hit extend to the greater "MSA" Metropolitan Statistical Area? Meaning, if Boston CBD gets hit, are people going to move to suburbia Boston or are they going semi-remote in New Hampshire, or truly remote in western Iowa?? I don't see the last happening.

I know the topic is "Inexorable decline of American cities," but, bluntly, in my region it is the "Inexorable decline of American Rural Life." Inner Urban Rot is real, the cities are in decay, but people keep moving to "the city" (mostly suburbia) and I drive through many dwindling small towns when I'm on the road. I hate this development, but it is real in my region. Suburbia is sprawling, home prices are sky-rocketing there, people know "what parts of the city to avoid," and the drain from small towns is real. It may not be exactly what the "planners" want (bug-burger eaters in high-rises), but it is a hell of a step toward it.

All that said, I do believe the place to be is in red county, red state America. It may not be the best for economic through-put, for now, but it is the best to insulate your loved ones from the POZ. Even in these areas, there is enough through-put for an industrious man to make a decent, maybe even excellent, living.
 
Here is what I am talking about when I say people are running free committing crimes so that the boot can come down on everyone's neck. The mayor of San Francisco just announce that enough is enough, and that there will be changes made to combat the crime wave.


Here are the bullet points, and people will readily agree to this to stop the crime wave.

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The people with their expensive property will be happy to be tracked using facial recognition, something they were totally against a couple of years ago.

From the article:
"Breed acknowledged that privacy rights need to be considered, but insisted the need is urgent.

"There is a balance to be had, I know. But right now when our officers aren’t able to use cameras during a mass looting event, then that policy is out of balance," she said."

Everyone will be happy to throw privacy out the window in order to enact this. When frankly they could have been responding to these smash and grabs on a timely basis all along.
Yes, emasculate the citizenry and empower the police state. Police effectively operate as the mercenaries and praetorian guard of the elite in their campaign to further subjugate the peasants. Of course, even if this effort to stop crime was sincere, police aren’t capable of preventing crimes as they occur. Real-time crime prevention can only be effected by would-be victims and their communities, which the oligarchs can’t have. For some reason this scene comes to mind:

 
Yes, emasculate the citizenry and empower the police state. Police effectively operate as the mercenaries and praetorian guard of the elite in their campaign to further subjugate the peasants. Of course, even if this effort to stop crime was sincere, police aren’t capable of preventing crimes as they occur. Real-time crime prevention can only be effected by would-be victims and their communities, which the oligarchs can’t have. For some reason this scene comes to mind:



I remember that scene and thinking it was weird. Now I realize. They swapped the race of the muggers around.
 
Yes, emasculate the citizenry and empower the police state. Police effectively operate as the mercenaries and praetorian guard of the elite in their campaign to further subjugate the peasants. Of course, even if this effort to stop crime was sincere, police aren’t capable of preventing crimes as they occur. Real-time crime prevention can only be effected by would-be victims and their communities, which the oligarchs can’t have. For some reason this scene comes to mind:

Australian Police have already been observed operating this way against the protester peasants recently.

Surprisingly, the present ills of many modern metro American hell holes could easily be ameliorated by a step back in time: expect traditional Christian values of CIVILITY be taught in schools and by families, allow for personal armed defense against violent assailants, and publicly execute the most violent offenders (only had the public town square before, but now TikTok, YT, FB, etc.). The major issues related to violent crime, overcrowded jails/prisons, and expensive law abiding tax payer funded extended incarcerations of a subset of humans that have no desire to participate in a civilized society would be SQUASHED in a matter of months.
 
It's because the cities have become places of crime, decay, and social and moral degradation of all kinds. Especially in this time, although the cities have been degraded to some extent all throughout modern history.

It is my theory that when people live in the country, their lifestyle is more natural and healthy. When people live in a single family house, on their own land, with access to arable soil, well water without chlorine and fluorine, clean unpolluted air. People spend their time living off the land, permaculture homesteading lifestyle, gardening, raising animals, it's how our ancestors used to live. There are multiple benefits of such lifestyle. For example being self sufficient in your food. If you grow your own heirloom non-GMO vegetables, they are much much healthier than the store bought vegetables, even ones labeled as "organic", which contain toxic pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, preservatives, ripening chemicals, hormones, synthetic "food colors" paints, irradiated by destructive energies, GMO modified, apples covered in petroleum-derived "wax", which cannot even be considered as real food anymore. If you raise your own animals, chickens, pigs, goats, your animals would be truly grass fed, not living in cages, not injected with toxic antibiotics, vaccines, and hormones, and their eggs, milk, and meat will be more healthy. My philosophy is that you should only eat food that you grow by yourself, don't trust the corporations food monopolies.

Another benefit of permaculture lifestyle is that it promotes healthy relationships. When you work with your entire family on the homestead, you have no time for arguing over stupid things. You have no time for bullshit activities such as video games, social medias, drugs, and alcoholism. Husbands and wives have no time for infidelity and hookups with random prostitutes. The work bonds you together. And you feel a good sense of accomplishment over your work, because you see the direct benefits of your work, it feeds you, instead of a bullshit job pushing stacks of papers around. And gardening is good and meaningful exercise instead of you paying to lift weights at the gym. And you get away from all the air, water, and light pollution in the cities. And you get away from dirty electricity, 3, 4, and 5G wireless networks.

If you live in the city, you are breathing in the toxic polluted air, and you bathe in the water containing chlorine and fluorine. You eat toxic food grown in chemical corporate plantations. You live in an apartment, and every single neighbor has a wireless antenna router, you are literally bathed in wireless radiation. There are apps on phones that can detect the level of wireless radiation and dirty electronic frequencies. And if there is a pandemic, the cities are places of large amounts of possibly sick people.

If you are growing your own food, you are self sufficient and independent of the system. It means that if the system tried to implement a social credit as in China, or tatoo on the skin, or an implantable biochip, if you live in the city you have no way out and the system has you as a "hostage". If you are dependent on the system for access to job, utility, and food, you can be "cancelled" at any time for expressing dissenting opinions, or only for not performing mandatory "medical" procedures. If you live in the country and you grow your own food, they cannot control you with the social credit.

The lifestyle in the city is unnatural, and I believe contributes to this negative energy. You drive like 40 minutes a commute in the car to your work. Then after work you commute 40 minutes back, stop at the drive in restaurant for some junk food. Then you come back home, and you sit at the computer, or at the television watching MSM propaganda, too exhausted to do anything. Your kids are brainwashed at school. Your kids are raised more by the school than by you. And you use pills to help you sleep, and the doctor prescribes even more pills that you flush into the toilet, that eventually ends up in the river. And add into this the restrictions, lockdowns, quarantines, special passports, special dress codes, and also the usual stuff such as crime, HOA fines, and mass surveillance. Husbands and wives work two jobs, separated from each other, and separated from the kids. If they are not mentally strong, they may have infidelities. In some cases they may only see the kids after the sun has gone down.

No wonder that people don't live in the city, because such existence is not worthy of being called a life. But other people don't live in the city, because they live in the country. Drive out of the city, instantly you feel the energy change. If you go out into the country, and live in harmony with nature, you no longer feel depressed. The city isn't existing according to the laws of nature, and what isn't existing according to the laws of nature cannot live.
Very well said. I know that when I have gardened, built things, and gone fishing to name a few examples I feel very content and happy. Something deep in my bones feels like I am doing what I am supposed to be. I think God intended for us to live this way. It says a lot about society how it is virtually impossible to live a life of homesteading today. You need money for land, property tax, have to get around all the zoning laws, etc... I would like nothing more than to live like this, although unfortunately I found the best avenue was to first work for a decade in order to save up enough money to do so.
 
An interesting video that explains why we have American sprawl and tons of roads that are never properly maintained. It's all one large Ponzi scheme...


That is interesting. Therefore if America as a country only spent what it had on what it needed instead of spending what it didn't have on what it wanted, suburbs would basically not exist.

We now see the fruit of a society built on usury. Dilapidation, a lack of homes, and misery. It is almost impossible to have a family in a specific suburb across three generations as it will by design fall apart within that span of time and migrants will fill in the gaps. You cannot form a tribe in the suburbs, and as a result, families are weak and the country is weak and divided, and has forgotten her history.
 
That is interesting. Therefore if America as a country only spent what it had on what it needed instead of spending what it didn't have on what it wanted, suburbs would basically not exist.

We now see the fruit of a society built on usury. Dilapidation, a lack of homes, and misery. It is almost impossible to have a family in a specific suburb across three generations as it will by design fall apart within that span of time and migrants will fill in the gaps. You cannot form a tribe in the suburbs, and as a result, families are weak and the country is weak and divided, and has forgotten her history.

The first generation of suburban homes were still built well. I know because I live in one. Even the 'cookie-cutter' catalog homes of the 1950s-early 70s had relatively unique, locally-inspired architecture. Floridian homes always tended to have smaller garages, but they had reasonable floorplans, roofs pitched to shunt away rainwater but shallow enough to keep the A/C bills down airy window passageways for mild autumns and winters, solid mostly brick construction, and the signature Florida room, an enclosed or semi-enclosed room that wasn't tied into the central A/C system, but offered a nice space for entertaining or relaxing.

Homes today are terrible - overwrought with huge, unattractive facades with plenty of architectural 'features' only on the street side, meant to impress passersby and neighbors; the other three sides are featureless with minimal windows and maybe a door. Huge vaulted ceilings that cost a fortune to heat and huge open concept entryways meant to impress visitors.
 
Homes today are terrible - overwrought with huge, unattractive facades with plenty of architectural 'features' only on the street side, meant to impress passersby and neighbors; the other three sides are featureless with minimal windows and maybe a door. Huge vaulted ceilings that cost a fortune to heat and huge open concept entryways meant to impress visitors.
Let's not forget the paper thin interior walls, moldy and leaky sewer pipes, windows that won't fully close, exterior doors with gaps big enough to let the rain water in, "smart" thermostats which are programmed to minimize energy use (do not heat the house during the winter), and some of these houses even have no floors, in that they put the carpet or laminate directly on top of the solid concrete foundation, resulting in a a cold floors. And the worst thing about these American suburban subdivisions is that the houses are right next to each other, sometimes no more than 10 or 12 meters apart from each other. The front yards are expansive and impressive, but useless. And the back yards are too small.

And even if someone does indeed figure out how to grow a garden on such a small size property, it would be forbidden. Because the overwhelming majority of these American subdivisions is that they are owned by a HOA, a modern version of the feudal master. So residents are subject to the whims of the HOA committee, who can instantly create new rules and regulations, and the residents have no choice but to obey, because the HOA has right to auction people's houses without asking them, for a mandatory eviction. It is a very regimented system. Residents have been punished for example, parking their cars on the street, having too many plants in the front yard, having trampolines for kids in the back yard, having goats as pets, mask mandates.
 
Let's not forget the paper thin interior walls, moldy and leaky sewer pipes, windows that won't fully close, exterior doors with gaps big enough to let the rain water in, "smart" thermostats which are programmed to minimize energy use (do not heat the house during the winter), and some of these houses even have no floors, in that they put the carpet or laminate directly on top of the solid concrete foundation, resulting in a a cold floors. And the worst thing about these American suburban subdivisions is that the houses are right next to each other, sometimes no more than 10 or 12 meters apart from each other. The front yards are expansive and impressive, but useless. And the back yards are too small.

And even if someone does indeed figure out how to grow a garden on such a small size property, it would be forbidden. Because the overwhelming majority of these American subdivisions is that they are owned by a HOA, a modern version of the feudal master. So residents are subject to the whims of the HOA committee, who can instantly create new rules and regulations, and the residents have no choice but to obey, because the HOA has right to auction people's houses without asking them, for a mandatory eviction. It is a very regimented system. Residents have been punished for example, parking their cars on the street, having too many plants in the front yard, having trampolines for kids in the back yard, having goats as pets, mask mandates.

Singular - Karen
Plural - HOA

On a serious note, I'll dive into the truly dystopian mathematics of this taking a sampling from my neck of the woods in Florida. My numbers are a rough, but the point I feel is solid. Take a married 'normie' couple with two school-aged children and a dog. Assume they both have the same jobs in the same city, consume the same amount of food and basics, but live in different neghborhoods...

Modest Home
(~1400sqft 3/2 | Aged Suburb | 2 Vehicles | Boat)

Mortgage - $800/mo
Utilities - $400/mo
Vehicles - $0/mo (9 year-old Buick sedan, 6 year old Ford SUV)
Car Ins - $200/mo
Fuel - $420/mo (20mi/day total commute for both)
$1800/mo

Upscale New Home
(~1800sqft 3/2 | New Gated Development | 2 Vehicles | Boat)

Mortgage - $2000/mo
Utilities - $800/mo
Vehicles - $1300/mo (2 year-old BMW sedan, 1 year old Lexus SUV)
Car Ins - $400/mo
Fuel - $800/mo (50mi/day total commute for both)
HOA - $175/mo
Boat Storage - $200/mo
Property Maintenance - $100/mo
$5675/mo

This does NOT include the private/charter schools the parents have to send the children to...
...or the before/after school care that is required because of the parents' longer commuter
...or the extra wear and tear on your car from a longer daily commute
...or the extra time driving the 2 miles out of your development to a wide six-lane 'stroad' to take you another five miles to the nearest grocery store
...or the extra money you'll spend on 'lazy' delivery services like UberEast and DoorDash because you don't want to spend that time driving
...or the inconvenience of not being able to keep things you own on your own property

Americans have been goaded into living this gilded fantasy of MORE MORE MORE at any cost. Now, I am completely for acquiring and expanding assets if those are assets of utility; if you really want to buy a boat because you love fishing and, by gum, you'll be fishing every weekend, go do it. But so often, I've seen people buy into this mentality of having just to have. Its sad, wasteful, and - yeah - I completely understand how it would be sinful. And its led to this culture where people are more than willing to sacrifice the one aspect of their lives they'll never get back - time - in order to fund this catatonic lifestyle of faux success and enjoyment that exists only to project an image to others.

(((Those))) in charge do not want successful middle-class Americans that budget and purchase nice things wisely; they want people to consume to consume, to become badge whores and corporate logo prostitutes in order to extract as much interest-based usury as they can until you die; its the cigarette industry but financial. Work not so you can have better to enjoy the fruits of your labor; work to have more. Don't be poor; worse, don't be unsuccessful.
You live where?
Your wife is wearing that?
You guys are still driving what?

Don't live a lifestyle that can be supported by one person while the mother stays at home with the children and both have time to pursue family leisure and hobbies; no, both parties must work and they must do so under the guise of equality and feminism. It might amaze people to learn but women absolutely worked throughout history, but worked in appropriate fields (nursing, childcare, education, material arts) and they did so at their leisure, not out of financial necessity.

EDIT: Speaking of home construction, ever heard of those Sears catalog homes? Literally knock-down kit homes they shipped by rail car and YOU and your family and your buddies or whoever had to put them together. A entire-freakin'-home. They were most around $650-1000 - about a year's salary in those times - but the amazing thing is how many survive today, thousands of them.

Its a real testament to a lost positive aspect of American ingenuity and culture - you could buy a home from a catalog, have everything shipped to you, and you as an amateur assembled it and it still stands 80-110 years later.
 
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Now, I am completely for acquiring and expanding assets if those are assets of utility; if you really want to buy a boat because you love fishing and, by gum, you'll be fishing every weekend, go do it.
Perhaps it would be useful to acquire assets of utility now, for the future even if you're not going to use them for some. For example, yard equipment and machines, appliances, distilling machines, drones, boats, electronic equipment such as old phones and computers, other useful and specialized devices?
 
Perhaps it would be useful to acquire assets of utility now, for the future even if you're not going to use them for some. For example, yard equipment and machines, appliances, distilling machines, drones, boats, electronic equipment such as old phones and computers, other useful and specialized devices?

I will always keep at least one 'old' car in my fleet - a '77 Electra is currently my gridless EMF-proof alternative ride.

Its a shame the surge of modern electric cars coincides with a dependence on connectivity and OTA updates to run. A robust small-scale power generation station (solar?) with residential storage capacity and a non-connected electric car would be an exceptional complement to a pre-80s gasoline vehicle for the self-sustaining family. I see the lucky few who managed to keep an electric S-10, Ranger, or RAV4 conversion as having something very valuable. Imagine replacing their lead-acid batteries with more modern electric architecture but without the telematics. Talk about truly living off the grid...
 
I will always keep at least one 'old' car in my fleet - a '77 Electra is currently my gridless EMF-proof alternative ride.

Its a shame the surge of modern electric cars coincides with a dependence on connectivity and OTA updates to run. A robust small-scale power generation station (solar?) with residential storage capacity and a non-connected electric car would be an exceptional complement to a pre-80s gasoline vehicle for the self-sustaining family. I see the lucky few who managed to keep an electric S-10, Ranger, or RAV4 conversion as having something very valuable. Imagine replacing their lead-acid batteries with more modern electric architecture but without the telematics. Talk about truly living off the grid...
If I was inclined to conspiracy theorizing Id say that’s exactly why they were so militant about not letting them stay in circulation.


 
Homes today are terrible - overwrought with huge, unattractive facades with plenty of architectural 'features' only on the street side, meant to impress passersby and neighbors; the other three sides are featureless with minimal windows and maybe a door. Huge vaulted ceilings that cost a fortune to heat and huge open concept entryways meant to impress visitors.
They're also super flammable.

https://www.concordmonitor.com/Why-modern-homes-burn-faster-44791577

In addition to materials like glue, which can drastically change their structure when exposed to extreme heat, others are inherently flammable.

“Look at what’s in it,” Zotti said. “Eighty-five percent of what’s in it is made out of petroleum products. It burns. Vinyl siding. It’s flammable,” Zotti continued, citing that many of the items in the average home are also highly prone to combustion.

“Your furniture. Back in the day it was all wood and wonderfully made,” Zotti said. “Now, we buy a desk at Target and assemble it and it’s basically cardboard. The fire load in buildings is dramatically higher than back in the day, so things tend to happen very quickly. That’s why we encourage smoke detection if you don’t have it. Carbon monoxide detection if you don’t have it. Because you’re trying to get people out of the building.”

All of this fuel, composed of furniture, synthetic fabrics, paper waste, plastics and other materials that make up a majority of modern possessions, allows rooms to more quickly reach a flashover point — when everything in a given room reaches its ignition temperature and burns at the same time.
That's why you see more laws mandating fire sprinklers in houses.
 
Another point that you brought up, Garuda, is that these suburban houses, they are made of toxic chemical based materials. Boards made of pressed wood chips saturated with chemicals, various glues, insulation materials, paints on the interior walls and ceilings, various plastics, asbestos, carpets and floorboards. All these chemical based materials give off some kind of chemical shedding into the air, which may cause chronic diseases over a long duration of exposure. Sometimes when you step into such a suburban house after a long walk in the woods, you can literally smell the difference. It is a very slight, but noticeable scent.
 
Another point that you brought up, Garuda, is that these suburban houses, they are made of toxic chemical based materials. Boards made of pressed wood chips saturated with chemicals, various glues, insulation materials, paints on the interior walls and ceilings, various plastics, asbestos, carpets and floorboards. All these chemical based materials give off some kind of chemical shedding into the air, which may cause chronic diseases over a long duration of exposure. Sometimes when you step into such a suburban house after a long walk in the woods, you can literally smell the difference. It is a very slight, but noticeable scent.
From the point of view of those who must not be named it's a win win situation. Get the human cattle's money by selling them useless rubbish during their earlier years & continue getting their money by selling them treatments for the diseases induced in the cattle by the poisons contained in the rubbish they foolishly bought during their later years; rather like sowing seeds, save that their seeds, like those of their father the devil bring about only desolation & death.
 
I've noticed that the roads in American cities are at the level of Zimbabwe. I knew the infra was bad overall, but seeing the streets in a city like Miami, NY, Boston, wherever it is, makes you think it is a third world African country instead of the ''wealthiest'' in the world. At least one thing we've got right in the NL is that the infra is impeccable.
 
When will the decline finally make the normie crack?

In Portland, some have begun to.



In Philadelphia, a college student states that it's safer in her native Brazil.



Business owners in Kalamazoo are not happy that city leaders made it a miniature San Francisco.



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Luxury hotel being kept alive by Baltimore government.

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The City of Baltimore transferred an additional $3.1 million last month to the city-owned Hilton Baltimore Inner Harbor hotel, according to a recent financial disclosure, bringing the total amount of payments to about $16 million since the coronavirus pandemic decimated the hotel and tourism industry.

The city built the 757-room convention center hotel in the mid-2000s, creating a unique city-owned corporation and borrowing $300 million in bonds to fund its construction.

The Baltimore Hilton, on West Pratt Street overlooking Oriole Park at Camden Yards, was intended to lure more business to the convention center next door and has struggled to turn a profit under the crippling weight of its debt. After refinancing the bonds in 2017, the Baltimore Hilton continued to perform below projections, but it was eking out a profit.

Then, the coronavirus pandemic hit. The hotel has been bleeding money ever since, triggering cash infusions from the city of Baltimore.

Officials at the Baltimore Development Corporation, which oversees the hotel, say the Baltimore Hilton is outperforming its peers in the city, but acknowledged it could need more cash as the area’s hospitality industry continues to lag behind pre-pandemic levels.

The city is required to chip in money if the Baltimore Hilton cannot cover its bond payments. Those payments, which topped more than $15 million last year, will continue until 2046 when the debt is fully repaid. Between now and then, the hotel is expected to spend nearly half a billion dollars paying down the outstanding principal and interest.

Baltimore Development CEO Colin Tarbert said the city has made three payments totaling about $16 million to help pay the hotel’s debt so far. While he hopes that this August payment was the last, he said more payments could be needed.
 
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