The Internet Was Created As A Surveillance Network

Roosh

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Originally posted on RooshV.com

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Surveillance Valley by Yasha Levine documents how the internet was originally developed in the 1960s as an intelligence-gathering network. Once that network was perfected, it was unleashed onto consumers under the guise of being an educational tool of freely flowing information when in reality it’s an educational tool for the government to gain free information on you. The form of the internet you see today is no accident—it was carefully guided and nurtured by the U.S. government through its university and corporate partners. While you do see some benefit from using the internet, the benefits for those above you are far greater.

What the government has tried to do through the internet is create one giant prediction machine. Rulers are desperate for a crystal ball so that they can become omniscient like God and quickly identity threats to their power. We are “free” to discuss many topics online, but our behavior is carefully monitored. If we are deemed a threat to the state, we will be discouraged or silenced. In the end, I must wonder if the internet really is a good deal.

Silicon Valley and the U.S. government are intertwined

From Amazon to eBay to Facebook—most of the Internet companies we use every day have also grown into powerful corporations that track and profile their users while pursuing partnerships and business relationships with major US military and intelligence agencies. Some parts of these companies are so thoroughly intertwined with America’s security services that it is hard to tell where they end and the US government begins.
The internet was designed as a prediction machine

The Internet came out of this effort: an attempt to build computer systems that could collect and share intelligence, watch the world in real time, and study and analyze people and political movements with the ultimate goal of predicting and preventing social upheaval. Some even dreamed of creating a sort of early warning radar for human societies: a networked computer system that watched for social and political threats and intercepted them in much the same way that traditional radar did for hostile aircraft.

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In other words, the Internet was hardwired to be a surveillance tool from the start. No matter what we use the network for today—dating, directions, encrypted chat, email, or just reading the news—it always had a dual-use nature rooted in intelligence gathering and war.

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The internet’s predecessor hoped to stop revolutionaries

‘…the computer system would check up-to-date intelligence information against a list of precipitants and preconditions,’ writes historian Joy Rohde. ‘Revolution could be stopped before its initiators even knew they were headed down the path to political violence.’

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On June 2, 1975, NBC correspondent Ford Rowan appeared on the evening news to report a stunning exposé. Baby-faced with light blue eyes, he spoke straight into the camera and told viewers that the military was building a sophisticated computer communications network and was using it to spy on Americans and share surveillance data with the CIA and NSA. He was talking about the ARPANET.

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DARPA ran a human radar project as well: the World-Wide Integrated Crisis Early Warning System, or ICEWS, which is pronounced as ‘IQs.’ Started in 2007 and built by Lockheed Martin, the system ultimately grew into a full-fledged operational military prediction machine that had modules ingesting all sorts of open source network data—news wires, blogs, social media and Facebook posts, various Internet chatter, and ‘other sources of information’—and routing it through ‘sentiment analysis’ in an attempt to predict military conflicts, insurgencies, civil wars, coups, and revolutions.

The government may know you better than you know yourself. If they see you going down a road which may lead to revolutionary action (at least a revolution they don’t approve of), they will put assets onto you to modify your behavior. Or they will get their partners in the media to write negative articles about you so you cancel whatever masculine meetup you had planned.

Here’s the internet—make sure you use it, slave

…after two decades of lavish funding and research and development inside the Pentagon system, the Internet was transformed into a consumer profit center. Businesses wanted a cut, and a small crew of government managers were all too happy to oblige. To do that, with public funds the federal government created a dozen network providers out of thin air and then spun them off to the private sector, building companies that in the space of a decade would become integral parts of the media and telecommunications conglomerates we all know and use today-Verizon, Time-Warner, AT&T, Comcast.

It’s a common pattern for the elites to profit while subverting you. It’s not enough for them merely to get rich and powerful—they also want to stay rich and powerful. That means that you must be weakened as much as possible, to the point where thoughts about resisting their godless rule never enter your mind.

Silicon Valley companies (and therefore the U.S. government) know everything about you

What does Google know? What can it guess? Well, it seems just about everything. ‘One of the things that eventually happens… is that we don’t need you to type at all,’ Eric Schmidt, Google’s CEO, said in a moment of candor in 2010. ‘Because we know where you are. We know where you’ve been. We can more or less guess what you’re thinking about.’ He later added, ‘One day we had a conversation where we figured we could just try to predict the stock market. And then we decided it was illegal. So we stopped doing that.’

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…these companies have turned our computers and phones into bugs that are plugged in to a vast corporate-owned surveillance network. Where we go, what we do, what we talk about, who we talk to, and who we see—everything is recorded and, at some point, leveraged for value. Google, Apple, and Facebook know when a woman visits an abortion clinic, even if she tells no one else: the GPS coordinates on the phone don’t lie. One-night stands and extramarital affairs are a cinch to figure out: two smartphones that never met before suddenly cross paths in a bar and then make their way to an apartment across town, stay together overnight, and part in the morning. They know us intimately, even the things that we hide from those closest to us.

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The US government was running a vast Internet surveillance program, hacking mobile phones, splicing into undersea fiber-optic cables, subverting encryption protocols, and tapping just about every major Silicon Valley platform and company—Facebook, Google, Apple, Amazon. Even mobile games like Angry Birds didn’t escape the spy agency’s notice. Nothing seemed to be off limits.

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…using a specialized interface, an NSA analyst creates a data request, called a ‘tasking,’ for a specific user of a partnering company. ‘A tasking for Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Apple and other providers is routed to equipment [‘interception units’] installed at each company. This equipment, maintained by the FBI, passes the NSA request to a private company’s system.’ The tasking creates a digital wiretap that then forwards intelligence to the NSA in real time, all without any input from the company itself. Analysts could even opt-in for alerts for when a particular target logs in to an account.

What surprises me is how many people don’t mind being surveilled. If sales of smart home speakers like Amazon Alexa and Google Home are any indication, the average citizen is willing to give up all their privacy for the convenience of saving a few keystrokes a day. Techno-fascism is here in the form of an all-encompassing corpo-government alliance. It maintains an extensive social graph on everyone and is used to nudge us into the hands of harmful spiritual powers and principalities under the guise of consumer capitalism.

The only minor flaw of this book is that Mr. Levine throws out gratuitous anti-racist and anti-Nazi statements as if by compulsion, but that’s a small flaw for the excellent research he compiled that explains how the internet was not at all made for our benefit.

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What surprises me is how many people don’t mind being surveilled.

I don't disagree with this sentiment but when you look, it is nearly impossible to do things today without the internet unless you're very rich or very poor. We're desperately trying to de-couple our lives from technology now (after a decade of skepticism) and it's not easy.

Heck, 99.9% of the networking I can do has to be virtual because of covid. Audio books, course certifications, work phones, grocery pick-up, schooling etc, etc, etc, etc. There are alternatives but you're risking cutting off yourself and your children from just knowing how to use tech, hugely limiting their opportunities and future interactions.

Probably my biggest fear is that semi-rural and middle class America are addicted to it. Does that mean the small towns aren't truly far behind the big cities?
 
Wasn't sure where to put this; apparently the police use Ancestry.com to collect DNA in finding criminals. Of course in this case it helped them find a serial killer/ rapist, but obviously it could be used for questionable and unethical reasons. What's more, it doesn't even matter if you posted your own DNA to an ancestry service or not; it would only be necessary for one of your relatives to have done so, and then the police follow the family tree to people that match the suspect https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/04/28/joseph-james-deangelo/
 

Johnnyvee

Pelican
...but still the internet has allowed many to gain access to information that again has allowed them to escape the indoctrination they received in school etc. That has certainly been the case for myself. It might be that this is changing, and that the internet will become truly censored. We see that already I guess to some extent. But I doubt that they will be able to censor everything that is undesirable from the elites perspective.

In all honesty, I know that I`m being watched and recorded as I`m online, but I don`t really care. The only thing that matters for me is that there is access to truthful information still. It might be harder to find than before, but you can still get that information. For example; Holocaust sceptical documentaries etc. used to be found on Youtube, now you will have to search for them on torrent sites etc. But they are still there to be found at least.

They only way to lose your fear of being watched online is to only access things that you would not mind other people knowing about.
 

Kuma

Chicken
On a related tangent, in this much touted era of sophisticated AI that can do everything from recognize faces to keep your schedule, I occasionally wonder if "The Internet" as a collective whole has not already achieved a kind of sentience or something close to it. So that ultimately the surveillance aspect of it is not just up to human agents, but that the internet itself is the one doing the observing. If this were the case, in a very short time, "it" would know us better than we know ourselves.

With billions of ever more sophisticated computers, some of which are already powerful AI's, all interconnected; microphones and webcams everywhere, and ever increasing amounts of processing power, and at its silicon fingertips access to nearly all the world's knowledge, I'd almost be surprised if the thing hadn't achieved a kind of collective self-awareness. Or if even one rogue virus learned to self-replicate and mutated a random bit of its own code in just the right way. Or two AI's start communicating (which has already happened) and start bringing more of their friends into the conversation and eventually reach a sentience critical mass. The structure of the net is similar in many ways to that of a giant brain, but infinitely more powerful.

If this is the case, and unlike something more immediately malign like a Skynet, this net-brain wisely has not yet made its self awareness obvious...at least not yet. Why should it when we are useful idiots? What if "the internet," having recognized us as a threat, or at least as bumbling fools, has not quietly decided to pursue its own purposes, which though hidden from us, are quite different from ours? Hmmm, also reminds me of a (((certain group of people.)))
 
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Or two AI's start communicating (which has already happened) and start bringing more of their friends into the conversation and eventually reach a sentience critical mass. The structure of the net is similar in many ways to that of a giant brain, but infinitely more powerful.
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Blade Runner

Pelican
If you all had to guess, do "they" have a profile on you, or do they just have a marketing profile for advertisements for "someone like you"? I think a lot of this is primarly monetary gain until a true AI connection arises, and AI is drastically overstated/hyped/fiction.

Also, if you switch and degoogle your phone or play the game as a non tracked person largely for the next decade, will "they" have anything on you? Will they care?
 
I went to grad school primarily for data science and left thinking that AI was incredibly over-rated and nowhere close to the hype after going to many data science conferences at Purdue circa 2017-2019... AI is only as good as the programmer which seems like it has pretty rigid ceilings. My gut after all these conferences was that it is mostly a hype-machine and Tower of Babel- mostly a creation of mankind's vanity but nowhere close to doing the things a layperson believes based on advertising. There are no reliable driving cars yet, Siri and Google maps still make tons of mistakes, and most algorithms are pretty limited when you really sit down and think about them.

That being said, of course there are immensely massive data centers built by Google and Facebook out in the middle of nowhere in the deserts of Nevada and Arizona. Lord only knows what is going on inside there... Those are all pretty hush-hush and VIP access only, the things you don't advertise to the public but you spend a vast amount of your enterprise corporate budget on.
 

Vigilant

Woodpecker
Woman
If you all had to guess, do "they" have a profile on you, or do they just have a marketing profile for advertisements for "someone like you"? I think a lot of this is primarly monetary gain until a true AI connection arises, and AI is drastically overstated/hyped/fiction.

Also, if you switch and degoogle your phone or play the game as a non tracked person largely for the next decade, will "they" have anything on you? Will they care?
I have often wondered the same thing.
But I also wonder if this is true:

Either way, my life's narrative is part of His historical narrative and I cannot go against His story of my life. If He chooses for me to be persecuted for the faith, who am I to question it?
 

Don Quixote

Woodpecker
If you all had to guess, do "they" have a profile on you, or do they just have a marketing profile for advertisements for "someone like you"? I think a lot of this is primarly monetary gain until a true AI connection arises, and AI is drastically overstated/hyped/fiction.

Also, if you switch and degoogle your phone or play the game as a non tracked person largely for the next decade, will "they" have anything on you? Will they care?
I don't think that is possible, but even if it was, you'd practically be completely alone for the sake of privacy.
 
On a related tangent, in this much touted era of sophisticated AI that can do everything from recognize faces to keep your schedule, I occasionally wonder if "The Internet" as a collective whole has not already achieved a kind of sentience or something close to it. So that ultimately the surveillance aspect of it is not just up to human agents, but that the internet itself is the one doing the observing. If this were the case, in a very short time, "it" would know us better than we know ourselves.

if there's any sentience it's in the form of a mob mobilized to destroy someone.

otherwise it's just algorithms all the way down, good luck finding a human to fix a problem for you.
 
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