The Jewish Question (JQ) thread

Akaky Akakievitch

Robin
Orthodox Catechumen
Based Dostoevsky...

Subject: Dostoeyevsky on zhidn (source - scroll down a little or use Ctrl + F function and search "Dostoevsky" and you'll find it)

Recently I [anonymous user] read a book called 'Russian Messianism: Third Rome, Revolution, Communism and After' by a British scholar, Peter Duncan, that features an informative section on Dostoevsky's views on the Jews. The section focuses primarily on Dostoevsky's 'Diary of a Writer,' [I found the direct citation here on archive.org] which contains a chapter from March 1877 called 'The Jewish Question.' I will spare you Duncan's "analysis" of the reasons for Dostoevsky's attitude towards the Jews, largely drawn, as it is, from the work of Jewish academics, and I will instead primarily quote Dostoevsky himself. The following quotes from Dostoevsky's 'Diary of a Writer' are from pages 38-40 of 'Russian Messianism.'

"And surely the truth is that the Yid (Zhid) has again begun to rule everywhere, and has not only 'begun to rule,' but never even stopped ruling."

The dislike of the Russian for the Jew "arises not at all from the fact that he is a Jew, not from any sort of racial or religious hatred, but it arises from other reasons, where the guilt lies not with the native people but with the Jew himself."

Those in the Russian borderlands would say that the Jews "have been moved for so many centuries only by pitilessness towards us and only by the thirst for our sweat and blood."

Duncan writes that Dostoevsky believed that "[t]he Jews were more prejudiced against Russians than the Russians were against Jews. The Jews looked forward to world domination; this required them to maintain their own close-knit identity. If they were given equal legal rights, but allowed to keep their 'State within a State,' they would be more privileged than the Russians. The consequences of this situation were already clear in Europe." Dostoevsky states:

"Thus it is not for nothing that everywhere there [in Europe] the Jews are reigning (tsariat) over the stock exchanges, not for nothing that they control capital, not for nothing that they are masters of credit, and not for nothing, I repeat, that they are the masters of all international politics, and what will be in the future is known also to the Jews themselves: their reign is approaching, their complete reign!"

Dostoevsky nonetheless claimed that he would support "full and final equalization of rights" for Jews but with the qualification, "insofar as the Jewish people themselves will show their ability to accept and exercise these rights without detriment to the native population."

In what is perhaps his strongest statement on the Jews, Dostoevsky perceived that the Jews were behind the socialist movement in both Europe and Russia:

"The Yid and his bank are now reigning over everything: over Europe, education, civilization, socialism - especially socialism, for he will use it to uproot Christianity and destroy its civilization. And when nothing but anarchy remains, the Yid will be in command of everything. For while he goes about preaching socialism, he will stick together with his own, and after all the riches of Europe will have been wasted, the Yid's bank will still be there. The Antichrist will come and stand over the anarchy."

I knew that Solzhenitsyn had specifically written against the jews, but I was not aware of any overt statements about the Jews from Dostoevsky until now. I would expect him to hold these beliefs regardless considering his legacy, but to see it written down serves as sure proof.
 

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Robin
Catholic
Vast majority of them are safely nestled in either their illegal desert colony or the Jewnited States. Sneaky cowards

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Interesting.

I find this one interesting as well. After the USSR fell in the 90s 1.600.000 Jews moved out of Russia directly. Many of these people moved as refugees to the USSR in WW2 via the Polish railway system.


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The Germans and Russians set up a great connection to eachothers railway system in 1940 (when they were still buddies).
For example in Malkinia-Zaremba (in this article probably you don't know it, but it's about 2 miles from Treblinka which was one of the famous places where Jews needed to get out of the train as a refugee to transfer to the Russian railway system.
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This transfer was quite inhuman as the facilities where back then not as they are today in railway stations. But happily many found a good home in Russia until the end of the USSR when they fled again. Well, home, everyone needed to work in the USSR, so many of them even had to work as factory workers which was quite harsh hence 1.600.000 got away when they could. Happily many got a home in Israel and the US now where life is a lot more comfortable.

Treblinka was also known for the nazi planted flower beds and the 20 pound bags of golden teeth per week that were taken next to a limited work camp. Isn't it incredible what happens in war? Never again.

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Ember

Hummingbird
Other Christian
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Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
When talking about the feminist movement in the 70s 2 names keep popping up: Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan (born Goldstein). 2% of the population, 100% of the top feminist movement, perpetrating the most foundational societal wrecking ball that's ever been imagined. It really makes me think that these people are being sent by Satan directly, as sort of aping of the prophets in a sense.. It's really a grave argument in favor of the truth of Christianity though when you understand Christ vs the Jews and how the Jews have set out to destroy society wherever they came and literally introduce Satanic change and destruction everywhere. You cannot understand the impact of such a minute, negligible segment of the global population in the total downfall of a civilization, and with the goal of the world eventually. I really must keep myself in check, my hands are itching when I read all this, while I never have that.

It's just unbelievable what you encounter when you dive further into this movement. I saw one positive story too though, that of Bernard Nathanson.

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With the development of ultrasound in the 1970s, he had the chance to observe a real-time abortion. This led him to reconsider his views on abortion.[1] He is often quoted as saying that abortion is "the most atrocious holocaust in the history of the United States". He wrote the book Aborting America in which he discussed what he called "the dishonest beginnings of the abortion movement". In 1983, Nathanson debated Henry Morgentaler (of course a Jew) for an hour on a Canadian national superstation.[6] In 1984, he directed and narrated a film titled The Silent Scream, in co-operation with the National Right to Life Committee, which contained the ultrasound video of a mid-term (12 weeks) abortion. His second documentary, Eclipse of Reason, dealt with late-term abortions. He stated that the numbers he once cited for NARAL concerning the number of deaths linked to illegal abortions were "false figures".[7][8][non-primary source needed]

Referring to his previous work as an abortion provider and abortion rights activist, he wrote in his 1996 autobiography, Hand of God: "I am one of those who helped usher in this barbaric age."[1] Nathanson developed what he called the "vector theory of life", which states that from the moment of conception, there exists "a self-directed force of life that, if not interrupted, will lead to the birth of a human baby".[1]

Religious conversion[edit]​

Nathanson grew up Jewish, and for more than ten years after he became anti-abortion, he described himself as an "atheist". In 1996, he converted to Catholicism through the efforts of the Rev. C. John McCloskey. In December 1996, Nathanson was baptized by John Cardinal O'Connor in a private Mass with a group of friends in New York's St. Patrick's Cathedral. He also received Confirmation and first Communion from the cardinal. When asked why he converted to Roman Catholicism, he stated that "no religion matches the special role for forgiveness that is afforded by the Catholic Church".[9]
 
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cosine

Woodpecker
Leftists and muslims would call my stances "islamophobic", but I would respond with, "Well, what if I'm not afraid of Islam, but I believe I have well-reasoned criticisms of it? What is the word for that?"

So, this will open a can of worms:

I've never really "cared" about Jews, and still generally see them as followers of God that just never really got the full story. There are also famous Jews whose works I can respect, scientists like Einstein and Niels Bohr, or authors like Ayn Rand and Joseph Heller(the Catch-22 author).

I just never really invested any time listening to arguments about how they have invaded Hollywood/media and wrecked western civilization from within. Sure, they form in-groups in NYC and elsewhere, but so do Mormons and other groups. Growing up in the CA Bay Area there were plenty of isolated groups, like Muslims, or various Asian immigrants would all stick together. You'd find a tiny community of Malaysians or Koreans or whatever that all stick together. Jews never really seemed all that different except they were frankly in the news a lot more with an odd combo of victimhood and nationalism around Israel.

So: if I were to ask any of you what your summarized criticisms are of Jews, what would you say?
 
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Leftists and muslims would call my stances "islamophobic", but I would respond with, "Well, what if I'm not afraid of Islam, but I believe I have well-reasoned criticisms of it? What is the word for that?"

So, this will open a can of worms:

I've never really "cared" about Jews, and still generally see them as followers of God that just never really got the full story. There are also famous Jews whose works I can respect, scientists like Einstein and Niels Bohr, or authors like Ayn Rand and Joseph Heller(the Catch-22 author).

I just never really invested any time listening to arguments about how they have invaded Hollywood/media and wrecked western civilization from within. Sure, they form in-groups in NYC and elsewhere, but so do Mormons and other groups. Growing up in the CA Bay Area there were plenty of isolated groups, like Muslims, or various Asian immigrants would all stick together. You'd find a tiny community of Malaysians or Koreans or whatever that all stick together. Jews never really seemed all that different except they were frankly in the news a lot more with an odd combo of victimhood and nationalism around Israel.

So: if I were to ask any of you what your summarized criticisms are of Jews, what would you say?
Einstein was a copycat, and a liar. Typical of his tribe. The only "God" they follow is not the creator of the universe. As for summarized criticisms of Jews, that would take entire books. A picture is worth a thousand words, sometimes a million, and every now and then, six million:

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GuitarVH

Pelican
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I just never really invested any time listening to arguments about how they have invaded Hollywood/media and wrecked western civilization from within.

There's nothing to argue about. They've run Hollywood since the beginning and still do. They've also run the media in Europe and America for the last 100-150 years. Also, nothing really to argue about there, it's just a fact.

So, this will open a can of worms:


So: if I were to ask any of you what your summarized criticisms are of Jews, what would you say?

No can of worms is being opened at this time. You are on page 216 of a thread about this very topic.
 
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Akaky Akakievitch

Robin
Orthodox Catechumen
The why is that they were Communist agitators and terrorists. But the Holocaust is a fairy tale. There were only work camps.

I went down the Revisionist Holocaust rabbit-hole last year. It didn’t take much research to realise the truth of the matter. Maybe most people reading this thread already know the following info, but in case you’ve not been made aware, here’s what I found out:

It turns out that the huge piles of corpses witnessed by the Allies upon arrival at the ‘concentration camps’ (which the British pioneered... and theirs were more like ‘work camps’ as you say), where we have all seen the horrific photographs of dead jews piled high, alongside their many belongings, were not the result of targeted mass murder by bloodthirsty satanic Nazi’s but due to a common wartime disease called Typhus.

The deaths of Jews in the camps escalated dramatically towards the end of the war, thanks to the Allies who bombed, blitzed and decimated their towns and cities by air (which is often conveniently ignored in our own official histories), targeted their supply chains via land and sea, starving armies and civilians alike, which had a knock-on effect of depriving POW’s and camp inmates of vital supplies and medicines, which lead to starvation, lowered immune systems, sicknesses and vulnerability to infectious diseases á la Typhus:


The article above describes some officially acknowledged events impacted by the spread of Typhus, but there’s only a vague mention of WW2. However, they were humble enough in this article to admit that soldiers in WW1 were using... gas chambers???

FIG. 5. SOLDIERS' KIT BAGS BEING PLACED INTO GAS CHAMBERS :eek: TO BE DELOUSED DURING WORLD WAR I. :hmm:

MT May 2014 Delousing soldiers uniforms


Oh but not for gassing people alive... it was for delousing all of their bags to prevent the spread of Typhus. Mm, well maybe by WW2, they had gas chambers big enough for people to actually walk into so their bodies could be deloused? That would be an efficient upgrade...

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But everyone conveniently ignores that narrative for the Jews of WW2. It’s not rocket science to work this out.

I can’t remember now which documentary I saw which confirmed this, but it also proved that there were theatre groups, sports teams and bakeries at Aushwitz... much more hospitality than I’ve ever heard from British/American POW camps? This doesn’t render the Nazi’s innocent as they were definitely flawed in ways, but the exaggeration of malice and evil against the Jew during these events is beyond compare.

The deception of the Jew knows no bounds, much like their father, the devil.
 
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