The Joe Rogan thread

Pendleton

Kingfisher






Transphobic = saying men shouldn't be allowed to say they're women and then beat the hell out of real women in combat sports.
 

gework

Ostrich
Gold Member
I was thinking the other day - all these big companies are now schizophrenic. They have departments that specialise in squeezing the most out of you, addicting you to their products, crushing any small competition, getting a bigger and bigger slice of the pie. This gets little criticism. Then they are riddled with HR nazietts, sensitive soy boys, aggrieved immigrants and all manner of SJW hellraisers - who are obsessed with the company's moral and political positions.

Maybe the most obvious is Facebook, which has been ruthless in the exploitation of a few billion dumb effers, give all their data to the NSA, addict people to their serVICES -leaving them depressed and their brain degraded and so on. But the outward face of the company is how Zuck isgoing to bring people together and making sure people are not offended by being able to pick 80 genders. You really shouldn't be able to put the two together. But there seems to be nothing on Facebook staffers kicking off about their data exploits or ruining their users' minds. They are, on the other hand making the way for people to destroy themselves with leftism.

If corporations are to have the rights of people+ (no jail time), it's time to start diagnosing them under the TDS Manual of Mental Disorders.

In terms of Spotify, the CEO complained a few years ago that if Sweden (where they were founded) did not lower taxes etc. they would leave. Seems they have moved many jobs to New York.

Their demographics:



If anyone has a subscription - are you smoking pot?
 

tractor

Robin
Transphobic = saying men shouldn't be allowed to say they're women and then beat the hell out of real women in combat sports.

I think Rogan will eventually learn that the woke mob won't stop if he gives them a bone and that his lucrative contracts with Netflix and Spotify come at a cost of selling his soul. You can't cherry pick, Joe. You either wholehartedly support marxism, BLM and trans pansies or you get cancelled.
 

Pendleton

Kingfisher
I think Rogan will eventually learn that the woke mob won't stop if he gives them a bone and that his lucrative contracts with Netflix and Spotify come at a cost of selling his soul. You can't cherry pick, Joe. You either wholehartedly support marxism, BLM and trans pansies or you get cancelled.

Rogan is probably to the left of 2/3 of the country (at least), generally seems to walk on eggshells to avoid stating a non-leftist position on hot button issues, supported Bernie and clearly states his support for left wing orthodoxy on issues like gay marriage, immigration, abortion, etc. It is really only in the last 1-2 years when the rules changed. You must now be ideologically pure, which means not expressing any views that aren't far left (or even creating doubt by not vocally supporting the far left) and not having conversations with anyone ("giving a platform to") who isn't also ideaologically pure.
 

tractor

Robin
and not having conversations with anyone ("giving a platform to") who isn't also ideaologically pure.

He also hosted people who were kinda "controversial" (like Gavin or Owen Benjamin) but stopped inviting them after they became too "hot". He still invites the intellectual dark webbers though. But we all know who those people are.

I think ideologically Rogan is very close to the likes of Tim Pool. Lefties out of convenience, such people don't go "orange man bad" but are anti Trump because "he's unpresidential". They shill for j*ws und f*ggs but wonder why trannys and Netflix's "Cuties" are a thing now. They distant themselves from the far left only to realize that the far left is THE left. Then they see how many j*ws and f*ggs support Trump. And for them it's like five star reviews on yelp or amazon. "He's safe, guys!"

Because of this, I knew that Tim Pool would eventually jump on the Trump train. So I'm pretty sure Joe Rogan will vote Trump in November but I doubt he will publicly announce it unless he gets depersoned Alex Jones style before the election.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
I listened to the podcast that's caused the fuss when it came out. It annoyed me. I along with Joe got irritated with how often the guest kept preempting the mob, beginning her points with "I don't want to upset anyone", "I know this might be controversial, but" etc despite following with completely sane points backed by evidence, statistics, quotes from regretful post-op trannies etc .

I guess she was right to be worried.

These trans activists are actually worse than the feminists were in peak-3rd wave about 5 years back (circa Gamergate/manspreading/beach body ready advert era). I've never seen viciousness and genuine insanity like it, ever.

They're despicable, and the fact all these freaks at Spotify are supporting them over an incredibly measured and frankly much needed discussion about the trans epidemic among young girls is enough to make me say something I might regret. Something along the lines of, if Islamic Fundamentalists really want to target degeneracy, you know which buildings to get next.

Truly maddening.
 

tractor

Robin
Or you enjoy walking that tightrope with everybody waiting for you to pick a side and you make millions in the meantime.

If he can handle it, good for him. Jordan Bi Peterson also walked that tightrope for some time making millions and eventually snapped. Rogan will either end up on anti-depressants like Jordi B or goes full Owen Benjamin.
 

gework

Ostrich
Gold Member
I listened to the podcast that's caused the fuss when it came out. It annoyed me. I along with Joe got irritated with how often the guest kept preempting the mob, beginning her points with "I don't want to upset anyone", "I know this might be controversial, but" etc despite following with completely sane points backed by evidence, statistics, quotes from regretful post-op trannies etc .

The point at which you are likely going to be completely barricaded from the public arena is the point where you are not prefacing everything you say that offers criticism of leftism (and thus subjects of the left) with disclaimers. Jordan Peterson was particularly careful, adding to much of what he said thing like,

"And that is not to say [I want to run people into camps]"

I met one guy, who said he was a centrist, who had watched all of Jordan Peterson's videos on his channel. He said he thought he was OK, but didn't understand why Jordan Peterson was promoting Darwinism (or something like that). I asked him how he could have come to that conclusion given he obviously implies as well as explicitly states that the chief organising factor in society is the individual being useful to themselves and others - not mowing down anything that's in your way. He refused to understand this. He just kept asking the same question, but had no substance he could provide why he thinks that. Fact is these people are absolutely petrified of competition, because they know they can't cut it. And society is full of people who are reorganising it for themselves - people who can't cut it. Their primary mechanism is making you uncomfortable to oppose them - the mode of being of an evil woman.

You will see a similar thing when JP had debated feminists (see his Skavlan interview for example). He is asked why there is a gender pay gap. He explains in some details the factors why it exists, with women dropping out of the work place being the obvious example. When he is finished the feminists just ask the question again, "Well you can say that, but what about the gender pay gap?" They have no reason to change their positions (which leads to stuff being redistributed towards them) because they face no robust challenge and they are getting everything they want.

In the case of The UK Conservative Party if any MP is asked to defend capitalism, they will first run off a list of defences for their opponents positions, before giving a centrist non-defense of capitalism.

Conversely, we will virtually never see a leftist prefacing their far-left effluence with respect for opposing ideas. They just want to run you off the road.

If someone can't hold their position, consider them on the other side of the Overton window. Joe Rogan is a thin margin away from deserving being merged into The Honk Pill thread.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
Sellouts, sellouts everywhere. Always had a gut instinct that this guy was a gatekeeper or just pure distraction for the fizzled brain matter of the stoned masses that latch onto the meaningless banter of his.

What is it about Joe Rogan that turns normally cool guys here into autistics or 'too cool for school' types? There's nothing cool or clever about avoiding interesting conversations with interesting/highly accomplished people just because it's popular. In what other time could a rock fan have a three hour unadulterated insight into James Hetfield's song writing process, his battles with alcohol and so on... then the next tight, a sci-fi nerd indulge in a 2 hour insight into black holes laid out at a layman's level? It's a brilliant show and he deserves credit for making these chats happen so organically and getting these people to be comfortable to open up.

I don't know why Joe Rogan can't just be seen as a great conversationalist with a surface level interest in a lot of topics, who happened to get in on the podcast medium at the right time. For a certain type of person he HAS to be a CIA operative, a disinfo agent, or at best 'a distraction'. One of my mates who I chat to offline from here is one of these guys and it's nauseatingly insufferable.

He also hosted people who were kinda "controversial" (like Gavin or Owen Benjamin) but stopped inviting them after they became too "hot". He still invites the intellectual dark webbers though. But we all know who those people are.

I think ideologically Rogan is very close to the likes of Tim Pool. Lefties out of convenience, such people don't go "orange man bad" but are anti Trump because "he's unpresidential". They shill for j*ws und f*ggs but wonder why trannys and Netflix's "Cuties" are a thing now. They distant themselves from the far left only to realize that the far left is THE left. Then they see how many j*ws and f*ggs support Trump. And for them it's like five star reviews on yelp or amazon. "He's safe, guys!"

Because of this, I knew that Tim Pool would eventually jump on the Trump train. So I'm pretty sure Joe Rogan will vote Trump in November but I doubt he will publicly announce it unless he gets depersoned Alex Jones style before the election.

Someone here described him as a "much needed political Switzerland". You can take 5 of his positions and use that as a way to position him as left wing. And you could take 5 others that position him on the right. But he's not a centrist, because he has strong opinions on those ideas. I.E He is fundamentally for gay marriage, yet absolutely strident that trans women aren't women and shouldn't be anywhere near a sports field with real women. He's a 90s liberal. Or, as a Russel Brand (to his credit) described him (I'm paraphrasing): "borrows left-leaning new age philosophies and combines them with traditionally masculine American libertarian ideals."
 

tractor

Robin
a three hour unadulterated insight into James Hetfield's song writing process, his battles with alcohol and so on...

I don't know why Joe Rogan can't just be seen as a great conversationalist with a surface level interest in a lot of topics, who happened to get in on the podcast medium at the right time.

Someone here described him as a "much needed political Switzerland". You can take 5 of his positions and use that as a way to position him as left wing. And you could take 5 others that position him on the right.

I totally enjoyed that Hetfield episode. Learned a lot about bees :squintlol: also, there're good episodes on exercise and nutrition (not Petersons' carnivore scam).

And actually, you're right with this conversationalist thing. His podcast would be less interesting if he tried to destroy his guests, even the ones that truly deserved it (Twitterjack, Bernie). There're enough political echochambers on the internets. JRE is not primarily a political show anyway. Among the main topics: gay porn MMA, Joey Diaz's stories, exercise and POT
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker

I saw this earlier.
He's really shilling now. He said it was untrue and said it was true in the same sentence. You have to read it 4 times to get what he's saying.

There's a lot of cognitive dissonance in Rogan. On one hand, he thinks something subversive and realtalk, on the other his friends are at least 2/3rds shitlibs, and he's going to cowtail to them and Spotify.

Notice the comments, "not good enough, the right will think this is correct because you said it."
Rogan plays the pussy center. He could start his own media empire at this point, but he's more concerned about his standup career than the work that matters (and as a standup lover, he's not my favorite comedian, I admire him more for his podcast).

Centrism is a luxury of rich lefties, not for the rest of us who have to work in real jobs.
Caring too much about what people think, that's a bad quality for a dissident. It's a feminine quality, fyi.

Fuck the media and hollywood, these folks need to be driven out of the conversation. They'll never tackle the real issues, like demographics, in their Californiaified point of view.
 

What is it about Joe Rogan that turns normally cool guys here into autistics or 'too cool for school' types? There's nothing cool or clever about avoiding interesting conversations with interesting/highly accomplished people just because it's popular.
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I don't know why Joe Rogan can't just be seen as a great conversationalist with a surface level interest in a lot of topics, who happened to get in on the podcast medium at the right time. For a certain type of person he HAS to be a CIA operative, a disinfo agent, or at best 'a distraction'. One of my mates who I chat to offline from here is one of these guys and it's nauseatingly insufferable.

It's shilly outside, its shilly inside, its a regular fucking shilly fest. The guy should have stayed a fight commentator, I could be a sci-fi nerd or a metal enthusiast and really get into whoever he brings on his personal podcasts but that doesn't stem the fact that I could also be a sci-fi nerd or a metal enthusiast who also seeks the truth, and when I see someone towing the line and submitting before these savages in defense of lies, I cannot respect that person, even in retrospect. At the end of the day, Joe wouldn't have anyone's back if it were against the wall and he could help by losing face.
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
I liked Joe's interview with Bob Lazar - Lazar's original YT discussion of the Sport Model UFO's gravity amplifier technology with element 115 was fascinating... as were his documenting Area 51/S4 Test Flight videos with John Lear.
 

Blade Runner

Kingfisher
Centrism is a luxury of rich lefties, not for the rest of us who have to work in real jobs.

Yes, I have said for a while now that being "moderate" is an idol - a way to seem thoughtful or for other people to like you, or worse, not hate you. I always joked in the past that "open minded" meant you believed in nothing, or even turned into meaning that if you didn't "agree with me" then you weren't. That started really escalating around 20 years ago.
 

Muscovite

Sparrow
Top podcaster Joe Rogan has all but capitulated to media establishment bullies with an uncharacteristic apology, after claiming leftist activists were starting wildfires. He can expect a lot more apologizing – and no absolution.

 
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