The Jordan Peterson thread

Aurini

Ostrich
911 said:
Brilliant takedown of JP's 12 Rules by Owen Benjamin earlier this week, this is Big Bear at this best:

https://dlive.tv/p/owenbenjamincomedy+xo3H_SrWR
How is this a take down? 12 Rules for Life is decent 'dad pill' advice. To discredit it Benjamin quotes it out of context and distorts the meaning. Then on top of that, he gives voice to salacious rumours bout Peterson. This is vicious and uncharitable; this is the sort of behaviour I expect from LGBT activists, not a self-professed Christian.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Aurini said:
911 said:
Brilliant takedown of JP's 12 Rules by Owen Benjamin earlier this week, this is Big Bear at this best:

https://dlive.tv/p/owenbenjamincomedy+xo3H_SrWR
How is this a take down? 12 Rules for Life is decent 'dad pill' advice. To discredit it Benjamin quotes it out of context and distorts the meaning. Then on top of that, he gives voice to salacious rumours bout Peterson. This is vicious and uncharitable; this is the sort of behaviour I expect from LGBT activists, not a self-professed Christian.

Granted Benjamin is pretty scathing there, but that doesn't mean he's not right. Peterson's message is at best, inspirational poster-level BS platitudes, and at worse, a gatekeeper's light purple pilled plantation recipe.

The context in which Peterson should be quoted, and where Benjamin is coming from here, is the one that's provided in this video, this is the best and deepest analysis of his persona and methods:


His daughter is fair play here, because the guy who pretends to be a role model for young people is raising a totally broken wayward girl. She's such a total mess that it does raise red flags about her upbringing, she's way beyond normal.

JP Rule #5: Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them
Young single mom poses in her underwear with her toddler, dates sleazy pornographer... Wonder if JP dislikes that.

Is it mean to point this out? No, not when this guy has been relentlessly promoted and is angling to become the spiritual guru for millions of rudderless young men in search of a father figure. At that point this becomes the duty of guys like Benjamin to tear this charlatan apart.
 
Lazuli Waves said:
His daughter posted a video of him on Instagram. I believe this is the first time he's been seen on video since his procedure:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-XPO_JFXHJ/
He lost weight, looks more miserable than ever, but at least his own-hair-transplants are working well (he had lots of bald spots 10+ years ago).

Served the globalists well - now he is off to play with toys. And he does not look as if he is enjoying anything there.
 
He ironically vanishes off the face of the earth while the shit he was clamoring against is literally unfolding. Is it a classic cut and run ruse?
 
The old "Peterson dismantled" video was full of out of context stuff and "gotcha" attempts. One can disagree with the man's ideas without losing credibility in the process. It smacked of desperation at the time when I was watching everything that JBP did. I am not gonna go over tens of hours of videos just to argue a very dubious video in first place.

Even now nobody is arguing against his rules per se, just (rather needlessly) attacking him personally for not keeping some of them. I did not expect him to be flawless, one can see that he had enormous trouble as a parent and the stories are well-documented. His whole aura shows a disturbed, but a humble person. Does he like Israel too much? Maybe, but he has given a lot of young men the tools to start thinking and researching for themselves.

I like the man, but unlike Owen Benjamin, I did not look for a daddy online. If it wasn't for the "he is not talking about the jews" angle, Owen would have had nothing to complain about. Now we can speculate who is shilling for whom depending on our sympathies.

I wish the doc well, his life does not seem easy by any means. If somebody gets a rise out of telling us how his daughter is a whore or how he is a junkie, fair enough.
 

Sword and Board

Woodpecker
Sold his soul for shekels and to indulge his intellectualized wank.

A disheveled drug addled man with a dysfunctional family. The kosher approved ‘red-pill’

“Just make your bed bro”
 
And just how long did you spent time there? Did you even live there long term.

Sure, if you can handle the depressing weather and decaying infrastructure with bare amenities (outside Moscow and st. Petersburg that covers at least 90 percent of Russia), and the overwhelming, pervading atmospheric menace seemingly looming in the air-and grumpy people year round-you're more Russian than I am.
 

Aurini

Ostrich
I was one of the early one calling him out, 911, for his "Individualism for White People" schtick; yes, he fell into the machine, but vicious bullying is not the right way.

Rumour has it that he may be coming to God. He's rejected him all his life - and the pained look on his face reminds me of somebody who's starting to realize what a fool they've been all these years (I see it in the mirror fairly often). Regardless, he's been through a rough medical period - he's very skinny - I'm not going to join a mob piling on the guy when he's at his weakest.
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
When he had that audience and he did the Bible series I though "Your life is about to get difficult if you don't use this opportunity God has given you".

God is stripping him down, I hope he will come back just as hard as he did before but this time using his gift of articulating ideas for talking sense rather than nonsense.
 
Sooth said:
When he had that audience and he did the Bible series I though "Your life is about to get difficult if you don't use this opportunity God has given you".

God is stripping him down, I hope he will come back just as hard as he did before but this time using his gift of articulating ideas for talking sense rather than nonsense.
He won't. The best thing that can happen for Jordan Peterson is for him to step down and live a private life again. He has a lot more learning to do before he should ever start teaching. Hopefully he learned something from his most recent setback, but if Vox Day is at all correct about his tendencies (an extreme case of gamma behavior primarily) it's probably not going to happen. But we will unfortunately probably see more of him in the near future -- as more and more young people start to wake up, the beast will find it necessary to prop up more and more gate keepers.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
You have no idea what God's plan is for Peterson.

When Roosh came to God he didn't walk out on his podcasting and the forum. He had the humility to continue on and provide an example to the rest of us. There is immense value in seeing pubic figures in the infancy of their journey to God. I helps us understand that for everyone no matter how wealthy or famous, the journey has to start in the same place. If Peterson simply fades away then it will be a missed opportunity. For someone like him to say "I was wrong on God" would be immense. That doesn't mean he has to immediately start running seminars on the topic. The value is there simply by someone who is a highly respected academic turning toward's God's divine grace.

There will be many appealing to false pride that he should cower shamefully in the dark while repenting his heresies, as if any Christian must train in secret until they reach a level worthy of proclaiming themselves redeemed through Christ. Those appealing to Pride and it's ugly brother Shame should be put on mute and ignored.
 
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