The Jordan Peterson thread

El Draque

Pelican
Orthodox
What Peterson adorns his home with, speaks volumes.

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Papist

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
From his Wikipedia page:

Starting around 2000, Peterson began collecting Soviet-era paintings.[16] The paintings are displayed in his house as a reminder of the relationship between totalitarian propaganda and art, and as examples of how idealistic visions can become totalitarian oppression and horror.[30][51] In 2016, Peterson became an honorary member of the extended family of Charles Joseph, a Kwakwakaʼwakw artist, and was given the name Alestalagie ("Great Seeker").[16][180]
 

Papist

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic

The mass media endorsed, kosher “rebels” are all the same.
Turning that ion its head, he's saying the motivation for the Holocaust doesn't make sense. He even asks why Germany would waste so many resources on the destruction of people when they can be used to help win the war. Think of the fuel required to burn 11,000,000 dead bodies (Jews & gypises, gays, JWs, disabled, etc), given that we're purportedly 70% water.
 

Papist

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic
His video is titled “How Hitler was even more evil than you think”

He is writing angry tweets that denying Israel military funding is anti Semitic.

Well if that's true he's either a shill on the level of the ADL, or he's taking the piss. I can only speculate, in all honesty. However anyone who knows the first thing about how the Israelis have treated the Palestinians should realise that funding the IDF makes one complicit in war crimes...so if that's anti-Semitic, what does it say about that term?
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
Well if that's true he's either a shill on the level of the ADL, or he's taking the piss. I can only speculate, in all honesty. However anyone who knows the first thing about how the Israelis have treated the Palestinians should realise that funding the IDF makes one complicit in war crimes...so if that's anti-Semitic, what does it say about that term?

I’m not speaking about you specifically, but it always surprises me the hoops that JP fanboys go through to defend him, even though the guy is a Big Pharma shill, Israel shill, and irreligious Jungian who has drug problems.

We can and must pray for Jordan Peterson. However, if you want men to look up to, then read the Lives of the Saints.
 

Cortez84

Chicken
Catholic
One of the major reasons why conservatives continue to lose the culture war is because they persist with endless purity tests for people who are essentially on their side and are fundamentally good people. Its judgmental, self righteous vanity at its finest.

Jordan Peterson is a flawed man and one that has clearly been struggling with lifelong mental illness. Despite this, his genuine empathy for people shines through to the point where it appears to almost cripple him at times. He is very clearly trying to come from a position of good as he understands it and he has done more to defend Christians and the positive aspects of western culture than most would given the completely hostile environment he exists in and has had to operate in.

If there were more Jordan Petersons out there the world would not be a worse place for it.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
One of the major reasons why conservatives continue to lose the culture war is because they persist with endless purity tests for people who are essentially on their side and are fundamentally good people. Its judgmental, self righteous vanity at its finest.

Jordan Peterson is a flawed man and one that has clearly been struggling with lifelong mental illness. Despite this, his genuine empathy for people shines through to the point where it appears to almost cripple him at times. He is very clearly trying to come from a position of good as he understands it and he has done more to defend Christians and the positive aspects of western culture than most would given the completely hostile environment he exists in and has had to operate in.

If there were more Jordan Petersons out there the world would not be a worse place for it.

Jordan Peterson is a liberal agnostic who mocks Christianity by interpreting the Bible as a gnostic Jungian fairytale, while convincing Christians that he’s venerating the faith. The fact that anyone thinks he’s a ‘conservative’ shows how far gone our political and social paradigms have shifted to the Left.

We are, moreover, not on earth to win a Culture War. We are here to attain salvation through Christ.

Let us read the Lives of the Saints to find men worthy of adulation, instead of listening to Jordan Peterson. We must pray for him, but there is nothing of value in JP that cannot be gleaned from the holy fathers.
 

Sword and Board

 
Banned
Catholic
One of the major reasons why conservatives continue to lose the culture war is because they persist with endless purity tests for people who are essentially on their side and are fundamentally good people…….
This is true but once someone on “our side” has been shown to kiss the Zionist/globohomo ring they were never really on our side to begin with.

Zero tolerance.
 

NoMoreTO

Hummingbird
Catholic
One of the major reasons why conservatives continue to lose the culture war is because they persist with endless purity tests for people who are essentially on their side and are fundamentally good people. Its judgmental, self righteous vanity at its finest.

Jordan Peterson is a flawed man and one that has clearly been struggling with lifelong mental illness. Despite this, his genuine empathy for people shines through to the point where it appears to almost cripple him at times. He is very clearly trying to come from a position of good as he understands it and he has done more to defend Christians and the positive aspects of western culture than most would given the completely hostile environment he exists in and has had to operate in.

If there were more Jordan Petersons out there the world would not be a worse place for it.

Jordan Peterson is a classical liberal. The classical liberal conservatism worked reasonably well for a while, or seemed to. But it is simply not able to handle the reality of the cultural rot that has taken place. I think in my youth, when the US Right had classical liberal values but grounded in the "Religious Right" or the "Bible Belt", things kind of held together.

Today we need real conservatives or traditionalists, people who don't placate so much to the left. If he has a conversion, he could have a serious impact in helping people to God.

I agree he has definitely had his highlights and good moments, but alot of failures in there too. His total silence for the first year of lockdown was a real disappointment, If he has a conversion, he could have a serious impact in helping people to God. This was the guy with his "credentials on authoritarianism" who could have made a big impact. Instead he did nothing. Where was the guy in this video? He starts speaking 3 minutes in.

 

Aboulia

Woodpecker
Orthodox
From his Wikipedia page:

Starting around 2000, Peterson began collecting Soviet-era paintings.[16] The paintings are displayed in his house as a reminder of the relationship between totalitarian propaganda and art, and as examples of how idealistic visions can become totalitarian oppression and horror.[30][51] In 2016, Peterson became an honorary member of the extended family of Charles Joseph, a Kwakwakaʼwakw artist, and was given the name Alestalagie ("Great Seeker").[16][180]

If that were true, where's he hiding his Nazi art and Arno Breker sculptures? The Nazi's were totalitarian tyrants according to JP right?
 

Cortez84

Chicken
Catholic
This is true but once someone on “our side” has been shown to kiss the Zionist/globohomo ring they were never really on our side to begin with.

Zero tolerance.

Purity tests are no way to win hearts and minds and its not your place to judge people. Excessive tolerance is a weakness, but so is excessively judgmental and self isolating points of view. Its easy to criticize public figures when their entire life is on display all the time and I am willing to bet that 99% of us would have our own chinks in the armor exposed if people put everything we did and said under the microscope too. The attacks on Petersons character have been relentless for the last 3-4 years.

There are vast numbers of Christians who lean heavily to the left, and lets not get started on the evangelical obsession with Israel and the jews either. Are we going to now show zero tolerance for evangelicals now too? This is why the right has been completely fractured, no one turns on their own more quickly. Purity tests are really just another form of virtue signaling, which is vanity at its core.

This is not about what box you think Peterson fits into. This is about a highly influential public figure who for the most part aligns with many of the values genuine right wing conservatives share. He does not need to align with all of them perfectly for you to acknowledge that he is fundamentally providing a far more positive message than the vast majority of the degenerates in the public sphere, hence why he is attacked to the degree that he is.

You gain nothing, and the conservative right wing gains nothing by going after people like Peterson. As misguided as he might be according to you and your beliefs, he would not actually wish you harm. Nothing positive will ever come from declaring everyone an enemy simply because they dont align with you ideologically.

Going after what people like Peterson believe and challenging their point of view is the correct approach and what is needed. Judging their character or them personally for the choices they have made or what they believe is not up to you. Their judgement will come no different to our own one day.
 

Bitter End

Woodpecker
Orthodox
As much as he is conveniently ignoring certain (((circles of influence))), he has been spot on on the lockdowns from the first videos I saw him do since his return from OD.
 

Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
However anyone who knows the first thing about how the Israelis have treated the Palestinians should realise that funding the IDF makes one complicit in war crimes...so if that's anti-Semitic, what does it say about that term?
I not arguing against your point, but Palestinians are hardly victims in all this, and have plenty of blood on their hands.
 
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