The LGBT Thread / Agenda

Renzy said:
Tania Tetlow, the president of (supposedly Catholic) Fordham University recently gave a keynote in which she praised the LGBT movement for subverting the idea of there being only two genders and undermining the the patriarchal (and Biblical) concept of men leading and women following.



Tetlow made news as being the first layperson and first woman as president at Fordham. Like forum poster @RowdyRoddySniper mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, it's yet another example of how women view their own sexual liberation as being linked to the LGBT movement.

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Due to the Civil Rights Act, there is no such thing as a Catholic school, nor an Orthodox school, nor even a “Christian” school.

The reason is that no school is permitted by the Federal Govrnment from declining an applicant based on their faith, even if a Muslim, for example, does not adhere to a school‘s Christian mission.

The Federal Government will treat denial as discrimination and gladly ruin any Christian institution.
 
ISR92 said:
It is shocking how many people support the LGBTQ movement

I had a fiery debate with a Facebook acquaintance about it last week and he ended up telling me to shut up after I described how LGBTQ propaganda 'makes people gay'

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And then I got lambasted by one gay, a fat feminist, and the OP who was my close Facebook acquaintance

OP posted an LGBTQ flag and this is when I retorted with that statement above
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I read this days ago and said nothing, but I saw it agin. This (bolded) is one of the most baffling terms I have ever seen.
 
MeaningfulMan said:
Due to the Civil Rights Act, there is no such thing as a Catholic school, nor an Orthodox school, nor even a “Christian” school.

The reason is that no school is permitted by the Federal Govrnment from declining an applicant based on their faith, even if a Muslim, for example, does not adhere to a school‘s Christian mission.

The Federal Government will treat denial as discrimination and gladly ruin any Christian institution.
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Well, that's partly true.

Jewish Yeshiva schools operating in NYC are free to exclude whoever they want for religious purposes.

Somehow, they are also funded by tax money.

Rules for Thee but Not For ME!

(By the way, there was a recent news story about how the kids weren't being taught anything other than religious propaganda in these schools, so the kids weren't receiving an education. There was no word of punishment, or the schools having their funding removed, but they are now being pressured to at least teach in English instead of Yiddish and cover some subject material).

 

From the CDC:​

Can transgender parents who have had breast surgery breastfeed or chestfeed their infants?​

Yes. Some transgender parents who have had breast/top surgery may wish to breastfeed, or chestfeed (a term used by some transgender and non-binary parents), their infants. Healthcare providers working with these families should be familiar with medical, emotional, and social aspects of gender transitions to provide optimal family-centered care and meet the nutritional needs of the infant. These families may need help with the following:

  • Maximizing milk production
  • Supplementing with pasteurized donor human milk or formula
  • Medication to induce lactation or avoiding medications that inhibit lactation
  • Suppressing lactation (for those choosing not to breastfeed or chestfeed)
  • Finding appropriate lactation management support, peer support, and/or emotional support


www.cdc.gov

Breast Surgery

Learn more about breast surgeries and breastfeeding or chestfeeding.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
 
I heard a really, really weird interview on NPR the other day.
I tuned in and they were talking about Dr. John Money and his evil experiments on David Reimer, one of the first attempts at changing sex through surgery. It's been discussed a lot here but long story short it was a terrible failure, and David ended up committing suicide.

The interview was about a new film called "Every Body" which is a film about intersex people, those 0.00000000000000001% of the population born with genetic defects that cause them to lack genital organs, or have a chromosomal defect, or other reproductive / endocrine problem that makes them neither a normal male nor female.

The interviewer and the guest, the director of the film, both seemed to take an anti-trans position, admitting that Dr. Money's experiment failed and that it was a horrible event (the interviewer Terry Gross actually said "yes in one TV talk show appearance, David looks like he is on the set of a horror film. He is absolutely terrified."

Very bizarre.

I doubt I'll see this film, and when I heard the director's name, Julie Cohen ( of coooooooooooooooourse!) I really second guessed her motives, but who knows, I mean it's a degenerate thing in itself to make a movie on a weird sexual defect, so maybe that's all she's doing.

Anyway, I actually have strong compassion for an intersex person, the same way I would for someone born with missing limbs or down's syndrome, but what is the real point of this film? I can't see the purpose of the general public knowing about this kind of stuff, unless it is to push back against the trans agenda, and I find that very unlikely.

A few choice quotes:

Though the sex researcher who treated Reimer maintained that a child's gender was malleable until the age of 2 or 3, Cohen says Reimer's case ultimately proved otherwise.
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Wow so you can't change your gender with surgery or psychology????!

society is also starting to understand that gender is a spectrum, that you're not just a man or a woman, but there's a lot in between there, too. What society hasn't quite learned yet is that sex is also a spectrum
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Um, no. That's like saying "humans aren't really bipedal, there's actually a spectrum because some humans are born able to walk upright with 2 legs, and others are born with missing limbs. " Just because a mutation exists in an animal doesn't mean the fundamental nature of that animal is changed. Hummingbirds are flying mammals, regardless of the fact one out of a billion might be born missing its wings.

Genital mutilation is not something that only happens in far off tribes in Africa. It happens in accredited hospitals across the United States each and every day. And yet society has such an aversion to curiosity, to, rather than "othering" something that is different, embracing it and learning about it. And that's where my anger is
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So trans surgeries are genital mutilation. Great, let's ban them along with male circumcision immediately.

Like if you can make a boy a girl through surgery, then certainly you can take an intersex child somewhere on a spectrum and raise that child as a girl and they can be happy and healthy. It wasn't true even in this test case [David Reimer]. But that ... false interpretation spread fairly fairly widely. And this case was used as a justification for [surgery] on intersex infants and children.
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Maybe this is the only way you can attack the trans ideology? From the left? From the point of view of an intersex by a Jewish feminist filmmaker?

The unfortunate bit is the world doesn't know what intersex means yet. And so when they read these bills, they don't know what that means. But we are explicitly written into all of these anti-trans health care laws across the country. These laws say: Deny surgeries and hormones to trans people who are asking for them with consent. But you can continue to force those same exact surgeries and those same exact hormones on intersex babies who are not only too young to consent, but are too young to speak.
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I'm still confused, or maybe just suspicious, but it appears clear that this is an anti-trans film.

Republicans actually very much know about intersex individuals because they have written us into their bills targeting the trans community. So unfortunately, the Republicans have done their homework. They know that intersex people exist and they are actively targeting us. The Democrats unfortunately have not, and they don't even know that we exist in order to protect us.
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Maybe this is just an intersex advocacy film? Pretty tiny group to advocate for.

 
Max Roscoe said:
I heard a really, really weird interview on NPR the other day.
I tuned in and they were talking about Dr. John Money and his evil experiments on David Reimer, one of the first attempts at changing sex through surgery. It's been discussed a lot here but long story short it was a terrible failure, and David ended up committing suicide.

The interview was about a new film called "Every Body" which is a film about intersex people, those 0.00000000000000001% of the population born with genetic defects that cause them to lack genital organs, or have a chromosomal defect, or other reproductive / endocrine problem that makes them neither a normal male nor female.

The interviewer and the guest, the director of the film, both seemed to take an anti-trans position, admitting that Dr. Money's experiment failed and that it was a horrible event (the interviewer Terry Gross actually said "yes in one TV talk show appearance, David looks like he is on the set of a horror film. He is absolutely terrified."

Very bizarre.

I doubt I'll see this film, and when I heard the director's name, Julie Cohen ( of coooooooooooooooourse!) I really second guessed her motives, but who knows, I mean it's a degenerate thing in itself to make a movie on a weird sexual defect, so maybe that's all she's doing.

Anyway, I actually have strong compassion for an intersex person, the same way I would for someone born with missing limbs or down's syndrome, but what is the real point of this film? I can't see the purpose of the general public knowing about this kind of stuff, unless it is to push back against the trans agenda, and I find that very unlikely.

A few choice quotes:



Wow so you can't change your gender with surgery or psychology????!



Um, no. That's like saying "humans aren't really bipedal, there's actually a spectrum because some humans are born able to walk upright with 2 legs, and others are born with missing limbs. " Just because a mutation exists in an animal doesn't mean the fundamental nature of that animal is changed. Hummingbirds are flying mammals, regardless of the fact one out of a billion might be born missing its wings.



So trans surgeries are genital mutilation. Great, let's ban them along with male circumcision immediately.



Maybe this is the only way you can attack the trans ideology? From the left? From the point of view of an intersex by a Jewish feminist filmmaker?


I'm still confused, or maybe just suspicious, but it appears clear that this is an anti-trans film.



Maybe this is just an intersex advocacy film? Pretty tiny group to advocate for.

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It is strange NPR would let anyone against transgenderism speak.

Intersex is used by leftists to promote gender ideology. Intersex people suffer from genetic deformities, but they are still either female or male, not an alternative sex/gender. Their genes look different from XX and XY, but you can examine their genes and determine what genes they were supposed to have at birth. They do have genuine characteristics of the opposite sex, like a man could a penis and elements of a vagina.

It's extremely rare, but activists try to inflate the numbers. For example, the consider Klinefelter syndrome to be intersex. Others do not. These are men with XXY chromosomes. This causes them to have smaller, poorly functioning testicles, less body hair, broad hips, and breast growth. They look unusual but are clearly men.

I feel bad for intersex people because not only do they experience emotional pain from being deformed, but they are used by gender ideologues who pretend to care about them in order to advance their ideology.
 
Lazuli Waves said:
It is strange NPR would let anyone against transgenderism speak.

Intersex is used by leftists to promote gender ideology. Intersex people suffer from genetic deformities,
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Well, according to the interview, most leftists don't know anything about intersex people.
They actually said people from the right were more aware, because now that they are drafting some laws about gender weirdness, they are including intersex in the language and so some lawmakers from the right knew about them.

Instead of leftists pushing an agenda, I think what we are seeing now is since they have normalized all kinds of sexual proclivities, and made it where your sexuality is a primary part of who you are as a person in our society, these intersex people are now having to be explained (retconned). The acceptable narrative from the left is just "see look this mutated person here is just like me, who chooses a life of anal fisting". Of course, they have nothing in common, other than their sexual life is "abnormal."

But yes, intersex numbers certainly get exaggerated. They are so rare that we might as well be doing documentaries about people with 6 fingers.

Intersex is a genetic defect, a mutation. Whatever else you can say about it, a genetic mutation has nothing to do with societal mores or public policy.

Another thing about intersex people is they are typically horrified, not proud, of their condition. They may grow to accept it in time, but generally they would never want it revealed or discussed, unlike the rest of the LGBT alphabet, who wants to tell perfect strangers all about their degenerate sexual activities.

It was indeed a bizarre interview. Maybe all it was about was educating leftists about what the "I" in the huge LGBTQAIPLUS stands for? The filmmakers said most leftists have no idea. Remember it was made by a Jewish feminist and they are fascinated with the degenerate.
 
Max Roscoe said:
Well, according to the interview, most leftists don't know anything about intersex people.
They actually said people from the right were more aware, because now that they are drafting some laws about gender weirdness, they are including intersex in the language and so some lawmakers from the right knew about them.

Instead of leftists pushing an agenda, I think what we are seeing now is since they have normalized all kinds of sexual proclivities, and made it where your sexuality is a primary part of who you are as a person in our society, these intersex people are now having to be explained (retconned). The acceptable narrative from the left is just "see look this mutated person here is just like me, who chooses a life of anal fisting". Of course, they have nothing in common, other than their sexual life is "abnormal."

But yes, intersex numbers certainly get exaggerated. They are so rare that we might as well be doing documentaries about people with 6 fingers.

Intersex is a genetic defect, a mutation. Whatever else you can say about it, a genetic mutation has nothing to do with societal mores or public policy.

Another thing about intersex people is they are typically horrified, not proud, of their condition. They may grow to accept it in time, but generally they would never want it revealed or discussed, unlike the rest of the LGBT alphabet, who wants to tell perfect strangers all about their degenerate sexual activities.

It was indeed a bizarre interview. Maybe all it was about was educating leftists about what the "I" in the huge LGBTQAIPLUS stands for? The filmmakers said most leftists have no idea. Remember it was made by a Jewish feminist and they are fascinated with the degenerate.
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This says:
It is estimated that up to 1.7 percent of the population has an intersex trait and that approximately 0.5 percent of people have clinically identifiable sexual or reproductive variations.
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Meanwhile:
en.m.wikipedia.org

Intersex - Wikipedia

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The number of births with ambiguous genitals is in the range of 1:4500–1:2000 (0.02%–0.05%)
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Interesting how much the numbers can vary when you fudge them.
 
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