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<blockquote data-quote="Towgunner" data-source="post: 1542607" data-attributes="member: 12355"><p>This is very true and thank you for sharing. I went to provincetown with an old ex-girlfriend of mine, which is the local gay "community". This was my moment, similar to yours, to see the gay "lifestyle" and "community" for what it really is. And just like you, the impression it made on me was immediate and lasting...I'll never change my mind about where I stand regarding gays. People will call me bigoted, but, this rebuttal is so dishonest, because, its not bigotry, this is just a straight-up observation. Its not my fault that the gays have created such degenerate conditions, they did that. </p><p></p><p>My girlfriend at the time would tell me she could only take so much of p-town and I agreed. Now that I think about it, I also went there once with my now wife, who is currently undergoing some proto-red pill process (she's coming along), but, retains her gusto for the gays. She's one of those "well I have a close friend who is gay, therefore...". Her close friend is a phony and was...wait for it...molested as a child. Surprise! Yet another example of early childhood sexual trauma leads to homosexuality. Her gay friend is another topic entirely. Her response was identical to my x-girlfriends. I think this is typical. By the way, my reaction was exactly the same as my wives and x-gf, I lead with them because they're females and too many women seem to blindly support gayism, so, its interesting to see how they really act once immersed in the gay. </p><p></p><p>I'll never go back to any of these communities for all of the obvious reasons. These are highly...highly sexual communities. Public displays of affection are an understatement. Sexual innuendo, if you want to call it that, or, better yet, outright overt sexual paraphernalia is ubiquitous. They make absolutely no attempt at covering any of it up and, in fact, use such thinly veiled suggestions of modesty as a means to only underscore their openly perverted message all the more. For instance, all around p-town many of the shops sell fudge and, so, you see signs everywhere "get your fudge packed here". Surely, I've used such sayings, but, always as the object of a joke or ridicule. Moreover, this sort of talk occurred in dorm rooms etc, i.e., in places where such talk is, for lack of a better word, appropriate. For example, your buddy walks in and you razz him by saying he got fudge packed or something. Yet in gay "communities" this is out in the open. Banners flying high declaring fudge packing. Its just what they do and how they live.</p><p></p><p>Want a danish and some coffee? Go into any coffee shop in p-town and you'll be surrounded by dozens and dozens of large phalluses made of chocolate, complete with anatomically correct gonads, veins etc. There's something to be said about this. You see, one of these things is one too many, that much is true. When I first walked in I saw only one and as like, oh, ah, yeah, hehe, I guess, there's a big black d*ck on display, I'll have a green tea. But, there were more...and more and more and more. And more. It stopped being silly at this point. This isn't being funny, ironic, "edgy" or even stupid...this is an open and obvious obsession and nothing less. And it's an uncomfortable obsession, like someone with a severe case of OCD, except for any and all things sexual. Excessive is another word I think fits too. </p><p></p><p>That's probably a good way of explaining the ambiance of the whole place. Obsessive. Sex is everywhere and when you're there it's distasteful. You feel icky. I'd say described the vibe of this "community" as ill and off-balanced. As if, something is not right (because clearly there's not). It feels sort of like a crime just took place too. Probably because many crimes do occur, but, locked away yet just out of your reach and therefore right around you. And you can't help but ask, "what kind of people willingly live in such a place?" But, this is the "community" gays create, therefore, it is a reflection of "who they are" or, as they like to say "authentic self". And that's the point. </p><p></p><p>I learned some things too. My ex-gf and I went to a drag queen show, and that's another topic for another time. The short version is this "show" personified everything I just described and more. It was all sex, namely, sodomy. But, the two men performing revealed something. They told us indirectly about "cabin boys". Basically homeless teenagers that hop from one bed to another literally. Its pederasty, period. The older gays prey on them and exploit them for sexual gratification. In this case, this was pointed out to me and then I started noticing it after the fact, but, its not hard to notice all the other things too. There were "kids" of gays, namely lesbians. They looked lobotomized and again, this deserves another post altogether. Suffice to say, gays have NO business raising children, period. </p><p></p><p>Today, people seem to be under a spell of sorts when it comes to gays. They passionately defend them, as if, they were gay themselves. I'm left feeling both perplexed and utterly disgusted on a deep level. Who would defend pederasty, the sexual exploitation of young teenage boys? Who would defend the lobotomized children, who seemed like their life was sucked out of them? Who would defend the flagrant and just rude sexual paraphernalia? What kind of person, other than gays, finds such a place appealing? </p><p></p><p>The defense of my attitude towards homosexuals comes from honest and, at the time, unbias observation. I know what I saw and I know this is not right. Per my experiences with this "community", I've long since concluded that this kind of behavior should be shunned and ostracised. No society can call itself civilized and support this kind of "community". Any person bringing any child even a teenager to such a "community" needs to have their kids taken away and put in prison.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Towgunner, post: 1542607, member: 12355"] This is very true and thank you for sharing. I went to provincetown with an old ex-girlfriend of mine, which is the local gay "community". This was my moment, similar to yours, to see the gay "lifestyle" and "community" for what it really is. And just like you, the impression it made on me was immediate and lasting...I'll never change my mind about where I stand regarding gays. People will call me bigoted, but, this rebuttal is so dishonest, because, its not bigotry, this is just a straight-up observation. Its not my fault that the gays have created such degenerate conditions, they did that. My girlfriend at the time would tell me she could only take so much of p-town and I agreed. Now that I think about it, I also went there once with my now wife, who is currently undergoing some proto-red pill process (she's coming along), but, retains her gusto for the gays. She's one of those "well I have a close friend who is gay, therefore...". Her close friend is a phony and was...wait for it...molested as a child. Surprise! Yet another example of early childhood sexual trauma leads to homosexuality. Her gay friend is another topic entirely. Her response was identical to my x-girlfriends. I think this is typical. By the way, my reaction was exactly the same as my wives and x-gf, I lead with them because they're females and too many women seem to blindly support gayism, so, its interesting to see how they really act once immersed in the gay. I'll never go back to any of these communities for all of the obvious reasons. These are highly...highly sexual communities. Public displays of affection are an understatement. Sexual innuendo, if you want to call it that, or, better yet, outright overt sexual paraphernalia is ubiquitous. They make absolutely no attempt at covering any of it up and, in fact, use such thinly veiled suggestions of modesty as a means to only underscore their openly perverted message all the more. For instance, all around p-town many of the shops sell fudge and, so, you see signs everywhere "get your fudge packed here". Surely, I've used such sayings, but, always as the object of a joke or ridicule. Moreover, this sort of talk occurred in dorm rooms etc, i.e., in places where such talk is, for lack of a better word, appropriate. For example, your buddy walks in and you razz him by saying he got fudge packed or something. Yet in gay "communities" this is out in the open. Banners flying high declaring fudge packing. Its just what they do and how they live. Want a danish and some coffee? Go into any coffee shop in p-town and you'll be surrounded by dozens and dozens of large phalluses made of chocolate, complete with anatomically correct gonads, veins etc. There's something to be said about this. You see, one of these things is one too many, that much is true. When I first walked in I saw only one and as like, oh, ah, yeah, hehe, I guess, there's a big black d*ck on display, I'll have a green tea. But, there were more...and more and more and more. And more. It stopped being silly at this point. This isn't being funny, ironic, "edgy" or even stupid...this is an open and obvious obsession and nothing less. And it's an uncomfortable obsession, like someone with a severe case of OCD, except for any and all things sexual. Excessive is another word I think fits too. That's probably a good way of explaining the ambiance of the whole place. Obsessive. Sex is everywhere and when you're there it's distasteful. You feel icky. I'd say described the vibe of this "community" as ill and off-balanced. As if, something is not right (because clearly there's not). It feels sort of like a crime just took place too. Probably because many crimes do occur, but, locked away yet just out of your reach and therefore right around you. And you can't help but ask, "what kind of people willingly live in such a place?" But, this is the "community" gays create, therefore, it is a reflection of "who they are" or, as they like to say "authentic self". And that's the point. I learned some things too. My ex-gf and I went to a drag queen show, and that's another topic for another time. The short version is this "show" personified everything I just described and more. It was all sex, namely, sodomy. But, the two men performing revealed something. They told us indirectly about "cabin boys". Basically homeless teenagers that hop from one bed to another literally. Its pederasty, period. The older gays prey on them and exploit them for sexual gratification. In this case, this was pointed out to me and then I started noticing it after the fact, but, its not hard to notice all the other things too. There were "kids" of gays, namely lesbians. They looked lobotomized and again, this deserves another post altogether. Suffice to say, gays have NO business raising children, period. Today, people seem to be under a spell of sorts when it comes to gays. They passionately defend them, as if, they were gay themselves. I'm left feeling both perplexed and utterly disgusted on a deep level. Who would defend pederasty, the sexual exploitation of young teenage boys? Who would defend the lobotomized children, who seemed like their life was sucked out of them? Who would defend the flagrant and just rude sexual paraphernalia? What kind of person, other than gays, finds such a place appealing? The defense of my attitude towards homosexuals comes from honest and, at the time, unbias observation. I know what I saw and I know this is not right. Per my experiences with this "community", I've long since concluded that this kind of behavior should be shunned and ostracised. No society can call itself civilized and support this kind of "community". Any person bringing any child even a teenager to such a "community" needs to have their kids taken away and put in prison. [/QUOTE]
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