The Mark Zuckerberg thread

[Truth Teller]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

Nobody I know who supports Trump was/is under any delusions of his perfection. We are all aware of his limitations and that he's going to have to compromise on some issues to make headway on others. I fail to see how that maps over onto oneitis.

Frankly the only people who keep pointing out his compromises as evidence of sellout are snarky gamma anklebiters that never understood his appeal to begin with.

Absolutely. I didn't vote for Trump out of any special love for him. I voted for him because of two major reasons:

1. I have friends who would've certainly been killed in some Godforsaken hellhole had Hillary won the presidency.

2. For all his flaws, all his problems, he said things that needed to be said. The US has borders for a reason. The government should look after its citizens first and everyone else second.

In 1992, James Carville had three keystones for Bill Clinton. The most notable was "it's the economy, stupid." Trump ran a campaign much closer to that of Bill Clinton; he talked to real people about real problems. Hillary tried to rely on Hollywood star power and identity politics.

If I work in a steel mill in Ohio that closed down because NAFTA helped relocate my mill to Mexico, I don't give a fuck whether or not Tranny Bruce can go to the bathroom where he wants. I don't care that Lena Fucking Dunham rants about equal pay and abortion. I don't care that Crazy Bernie thinks some loser wrapping burgers deserves $15/hr minimum wage. I care that I'm unemployed because my country didn't put my interests first. This is basic electoral strategy, and the fact that Hillary couldn't or wouldn't figure it out cost her an election that, frankly, the Democrats had a very good chance of winning.

Look even at the campaign slogans that were used. Let's ignore MAGA for a minute.

Trump: I'm with YOU!

Hillary: I'm with her.

This is pretty basic stuff. The fact that Hillary's campaign couldn't figure it out is a testament to it's incompetence and its general underestimation of Donald Trump. Trump doesn't play 4D/12D/whatever-D chess. He makes mistakes. That being said, he knew (and knows) how to appeal to the common man far better than Hillary ever did or ever will.

Prior to 2016, the fake news networks said that the GOP needed an Obama, a token minority candidate. The GOP found its Bill Clinton, instead.

 

[loremipsum]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

Zuckerberg has the charisma of a dead fish. In tightly controlled atmosphere he may be tolerable, but in the dirty world of American politics he will be crushed. Meanwhile, the Rock has more charisma than almost anyone else alive today that I know of. Not sure he harbors any political ambitions...he might try the Governor thing first to see if he truly likes it.

I could count on the fact that they are trained to act like such a pussies to be nonthreatening to modern "males".

Just look at how much they hate Trump's assertiveness which for some reason is considered an abnormality nowadays.

 

[Transsimian]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4717930/Zuckerberg-TIE-Trump-ran-election.html

Battle of the Billionaires: Poll reveals Zuckerberg would TIE with Trump if he ran for 2020 election as speculation mounts he will run for president after his heavily-publicized tour of the USA

 

[Paracelsus]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4717930/Zuckerberg-TIE-Trump-ran-election.html

Battle of the Billionaires: Poll reveals Zuckerberg would TIE with Trump if he ran for 2020 election as speculation mounts he will run for president after his heavily-publicized tour of the USA

The poll having been conducted by Public Policy Polling, a Democratic polling company coming off complete polling accuracy in the last Presidential election...

In the 2016 Presidential Election, PPP's final polls widely missed the mark in several key swing states, including New Hampshire,[25] North Carolina,[26] Pennsylvania,[27] and Wisconsin.[28] Their polls also significantly underestimated President Trump's lead in Ohio,[29] and incorrectly predicted Hillary Clinton to win Florida.

...oh.

Why the fuck are we even listening to pollsters anymore? The Suck likely paid for the fucking results of that poll, and even then they still don't make him more popular than Trump, because nobody in their right mind would believe it.

 

[Truth Teller]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

Can you see Zuckerberg having a tantrum on stage because Evil Donnie Trump said something negative about immigrants and Facebook's H1-B usage?

He'd completely melt down.

 

[El Chinito loco]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

Zuckerbucks is a complete joke. He did a recent highly publicized "tour" of the heartland of America talking with the average people about their daily grind. He tried to come off as understanding and sympathetic but mostly he just sounded like an out of touch billionaire talking down to hardworking blue collar men.

Would he be able to become president? Highly unlikely but the establishment is out for blood now and they want a new fresh scion and face for the dim masses.

If you have been paying attention they have also been pushing Chelsea Clinton hard. Chelsea gets sweetheart coverage on politico and shit rags like Vanity Fair. The mainstream media is shilling for her hard except she's like gonorrhea when it comes to the public with even less charisma than her evil baba yaga mom.

 

[wi30]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

He'd be what, 35 or 36 during the campaign? The youngest president at inauguration was Teddy at 42.

 

[Enoch]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

He'd be what, 35 or 36 during the campaign? The youngest president at inauguration was Teddy at 42.

The rock is 45. If that's not inspiration to get and stay fit I dont know what is.

Edit, just realized you meant Zuck. Can you imagine Zuck vs the Rock onstage? The tingle would put the Rock on the top of the ticket, 100%. Maybe Zuck as #2.

 

[Transsimian]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...hat-facebook-dark-ads-could-swing-an-election
First proof that Facebook dark ads could swing an election

 

[Genghis Khan]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

That's not really proof, at best it's circumstantial evidence you can maybe convince some people to change their minds.

Facebook needs to be careful how they approach this - like Fake News, it could all blow up in their face. All you need is Trump sending out one tweet accusing Zuck/FB of manipulation or commenting about it on the debate stage, Fake News making a spectacle of something Trump said that was offensive to FB and have his entire base consolidate more.

Facebook can rapidly become as suspicious as Fake News is to the average Trump voter. Gen Z is especially savvy regarding the internet and /pol may end up mocking FB so badly it wrecks their profits hard.

The Rock is actually a far greater threat. Dude is charismatic as hell and as far as I can tell is really clean in terms of his personal life. The question is whether the Democratic party would actually field him. A successful cis man with a normal family life?

Also incumbents are hard to beat if they're doing reasonably well on their agenda, especially in recent history with Bush Sr. being the one exception of a president not being re-elected. Then again, he was riding on the coat tails of 2 term Reagan. If Trump gets even parts of his agenda completed: job creation and reduction of immigration, he'll be very tough to beat, even by someone as charismatic as The Rock.

 

[scorpion]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

The Rock is not going to run for President any time soon. He's in his prime earning years in Hollywood. He's got a lot of money left to make over the next decade. We're talking several hundred million dollars all told. He's also extremely well-liked across the political spectrum. Once he enters politics he'll become basically hated by half the country, which will irreversibly damage his brand. He's a smart enough guy to realize that, and he's very careful and protective as far as his career goes. If he has political ambitions once he starts winding down his acting career I could see him running for Governor of Florida or California and then maybe taking a swing at the Presidency after that. Basically pulling an Arnold (who would have ran for President if he was eligible). But The Rock vs. Trump in 2020 is pure Democrat fantasy. The timing isn't right for The Rock and he's smart enough to know that. Zuckerberg on the other hand, is rich enough and delusional enough to actually pull the trigger.

 

[monster]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

Looking aside of his liberal leaning, the nice thing Zuck could bring to the government is AI and data mining to eliminate LOTS of waste. So much of the government is wrapped up in bad data, no data, or computer systems from 30 years ago that if we implemented high-tech we could really really jump leaps and bounds ahead.

Even if it weren't Zuck - in fact, I could care less WHO it is - I wish the govt would really get some top notch AI/data-analysis to run that bitch.

 

[monster]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

Trump eviscerated Jeb very swiftly. Zuckerberg would be even more bloody.

Not at all. This is very myopic. Part of the reason Trump has been largely maligned and hated now is because the media hates him. The single-most largest error he made during his campaign, career, and now is not befriending the media as he should have. Oddly enough, 5 years ago he could have BOUGHT one or more major media outlets.

Let this be a huge lesson for any renegade going forward: don't make the entire media your enemy.

Why do you think all these rich folk buy money losing newspapers (WaPo, NYT, etc)? They could give two fucks that it's losing money. They instead want the media on their side!!!!

Zuckerberg with Facebook is essentially the single-most important media magnate alive in the world today - in the WORLD, not just he US. No one else has that far reach of being in every nook and cranny in the world. And all the lesser media outlets NEED the exposure in FB news feeds for their revenue and therefore will NOT upset FB.

 

[Chewbacon]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

I really, really, really want Mark Cuban to run at some point in the near future.

 

[weambulance]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

Trump eviscerated Jeb very swiftly. Zuckerberg would be even more bloody.

Not at all. This is very myopic. Part of the reason Trump has been largely maligned and hated now is because the media hates him. The single-most largest error he made during his campaign, career, and now is not befriending the media as he should have. Oddly enough, 5 years ago he could have BOUGHT one or more major media outlets.

Let this be a huge lesson for any renegade going forward: don't make the entire media your enemy.

Why do you think all these rich folk buy money losing newspapers (WaPo, NYT, etc)? They could give two fucks that it's losing money. They instead want the media on their side!!!!

Zuckerberg with Facebook is essentially the single-most important media magnate alive in the world today - in the WORLD, not just he US. No one else has that far reach of being in every nook and cranny in the world. And all the lesser media outlets NEED the exposure in FB news feeds for their revenue and therefore will NOT upset FB.

Or we could just work toward neutering the old media so we don't have to worry about it.

Why does President Trump use twitter so much? Because it cuts out the middleman. Why does the media cry about his tweets so much? Because he is speaking directly to the people.

There is no "winning over the (old) media". It's ridiculous to suggest anyone on the right should even try; they are not salvageable. Route around, build parallel infrastructure, move forward.

Also, President Trump is not maligned and hated except by:

1. Cucks
2. Old media
3. Liberal whackjobs

So, who cares? They were never our allies.

 

[monster]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

The media landscape is definitely changing, but I think you're greatly overestimating the change and where people get their news from.

Twitter won't be around in ten years. WaPo, WaPo, CNN, ABC, will be. They're all evolving into media conglomerates with arms in all sorts of channels. They're run by some very, very smart business people.

It's not "speaking directly to the people" that makes news. It's conflict that makes for exposure and news. The middlemen will keep on growing and growing.

 

[SamuelBRoberts]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

My concern is what Zuckerberg's gonna look like after he goes on TRT. He might lose the wimpy vibe and turn into an actual threat.

 

[Samseau]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

The media landscape is definitely changing, but I think you're greatly overestimating the change and where people get their news from.

Twitter won't be around in ten years. WaPo, WaPo, CNN, ABC, will be. They're all evolving into media conglomerates with arms in all sorts of channels. They're run by some very, very smart business people.

It's not "speaking directly to the people" that makes news. It's conflict that makes for exposure and news. The middlemen will keep on growing and growing.

You will live to eat these words. One of the worst predictions ever made in the politics forum.

Pretty damn obvious that internet is the new radio. Just like radio replaced print, and tv replaced radio, internet is replacing TV.

Twitter or something else just like it will be the norm until our deaths.

 

[monster]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

The media landscape is definitely changing, but I think you're greatly overestimating the change and where people get their news from.

Twitter won't be around in ten years. WaPo, WaPo, CNN, ABC, will be. They're all evolving into media conglomerates with arms in all sorts of channels. They're run by some very, very smart business people.

It's not "speaking directly to the people" that makes news. It's conflict that makes for exposure and news. The middlemen will keep on growing and growing.

You will live to eat these words. One of the worst predictions ever made in the politics forum.

Pretty damn obvious that internet is the new radio. Just like radio replaced print, and tv replaced radio, internet is replacing TV.

Twitter or something else just like it will be the norm until our deaths.

You're putting words into my mouth where there were never any and misinterpreting everything I said. I never said the Internet is not news. In fact, I said the Internet WAS the main source of news, which is why Zuckerberger is the most powerful news magnate in the world.

WaPo, NYT, CNN etc have all evolved into Internet media companies and will continue to evolve into full-scale Internet media companies. They are beholden by and large to Facebook, which is their main distribution platform, hence the source of Zuck's power.

 

[Samseau]

RE: Zuckerberg Contemplating Presidential Run?

The media landscape is definitely changing, but I think you're greatly overestimating the change and where people get their news from.

Twitter won't be around in ten years. WaPo, WaPo, CNN, ABC, will be. They're all evolving into media conglomerates with arms in all sorts of channels. They're run by some very, very smart business people.

It's not "speaking directly to the people" that makes news. It's conflict that makes for exposure and news. The middlemen will keep on growing and growing.

You will live to eat these words. One of the worst predictions ever made in the politics forum.

Pretty damn obvious that internet is the new radio. Just like radio replaced print, and tv replaced radio, internet is replacing TV.

Twitter or something else just like it will be the norm until our deaths.

You're putting words into my mouth where there were never any and misinterpreting everything I said. I never said the Internet is not news. In fact, I said the Internet WAS the main source of news, which is why Zuckerberger is the most powerful news magnate in the world.

WaPo, NYT, CNN etc have all evolved into Internet media companies and will continue to evolve into full-scale Internet media companies. They are beholden by and large to Facebook, which is their main distribution platform, hence the source of Zuck's power.

Facebook is certainly a left-wing site, but never forget that a meme is more powerful than some random news link to WaPo/NYT/CNN fake news. Memes control the internet, not corporations. This is why Trump won and why different candidates can come forth and win now.