The Mexico Thread aka "Mexico Is Collapsing"

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Hummingbird
Orthodox
Gold Member
seems to me that Mexico and Central America were far better off as military dictatorships than trying to ape US representative democracy

Wait, the US aren't a military dictatorship, ruling the world?

And, there are actual "representative" and democratic elections, in the US, with mail-in ballots and electronic voting but it's fair and representative?

In any case, 99% of the countries of the world would be much better off with a military ruler in charge, preferably a highly religious military leader. People know it, too.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
Wait, the US aren't a military dictatorship, ruling the world?

And, there are actual "representative" and democratic elections, in the US, with mail-in ballots and electronic voting but it's fair and representative?

In any case, 99% of the countries of the world would be much better off with a military ruler in charge, preferably a highly religious military leader. People know it, too.

Which is other words is a Kingdom.
 

bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Wait, the US aren't a military dictatorship, ruling the world?

And, there are actual "representative" and democratic elections, in the US, with mail-in ballots and electronic voting but it's fair and representative?

In any case, 99% of the countries of the world would be much better off with a military ruler in charge, preferably a highly religious military leader. People know it, too.
Clever, you got me there.

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To be more specific and less snarky, there's a massive difference between the political system in the US and Mexico and Central America, especially on a local level. As an example, one day a few years ago a drunk driver managed to crash into the transformer box in front of my building, completely knocking out power. I'd returned from living in my wife's country south of the border just a few months before so I instinctively despaired and prepared myself for days, or possibly weeks, without power. Instead, the city government dispatched a crew within a few hours and it was all fixed with a new transformer installed and power restored by that evening.

We'd have been without power for a very long time if this had happened in my wife's country, unless we were fortunate enough to live close to someone with money and clout who was also affected, in which case it would have been fixed quickly. According to people down there who are old enough to remember the military dictatorship, things were vastly more organized and efficient for everyday people, not to mention safe. People generally didn't lock their doors when they went out, whereas now it's got one of the highest crime rates in the world and everything that's not nailed down constantly gets stolen.

One reason for this is that back then under the military dictatorship, corrupt local officials were actually punished harshly. Also, petty thieves were literally stripped naked and frog marched through town while people jeered and threw rotten fruit at them before they were taken off to prison. This would be considered cruel and unusual punishment in the US, but it worked for them. The current president of El Salvador is actually bringing back a lot of the old harsh "cruel and unusual" methods against the gangs that have ruled the country for years and he's making progress, while also being accused of being a dictator and violating human rights by the current US regime. He's also hugely popular in the country because people were very tired of de facto rule by organized crime.

That's another example of what I meant by people in Latin America being better off without a system that tries to ape what we've got in the US or the UK. Basically, in ethnically Aztec and Mayan areas they need a system that's a modern update of what their ancestors had, not something slowly developed in Great Britain over the course of centuries and then implemented among Anglo-Saxons in the former colonies of the UK. If you think about it, their trying to ape US government makes about as much sense as Americans trying to base their government on whatever it is they're doing in China based on the fact that China does a lot of things right.
 
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infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
Clever, you got me there.

Edit:

To be more specific and less snarky, there's a massive difference between the political system in the US and Mexico and Central America, especially on a local level. As an example, one day a few years ago a drunk driver managed to crash into the transformer box in front of my building, completely knocking out power. I'd returned from living in my wife's country south of the border just a few months before so I instinctively despaired and prepared myself for days, or possibly weeks, without power. Instead, the city government dispatched a crew within a few hours and it was all fixed with a new transformer installed and power restored by that evening.

We'd have been without power for a very long time if this had happened in my wife's country, unless we were fortunate enough to live close to someone with money and clout who was also affected, in which case it would have been fixed quickly. According to people down there who are old enough to remember the military dictatorship, things were vastly more organized and efficient for everyday people, not to mention safe. People generally didn't lock their doors when they went out, whereas now it's got one of the highest crime rates in the world and everything that's not nailed down constantly gets stolen.

One reason for this is that back then under the military dictatorship, corrupt local officials were actually punished harshly. Also, petty thieves were literally stripped naked and frog marched through town while people jeered and threw rotten fruit at them before they were taken off to prison. This would be considered cruel and unusual punishment in the US, but it worked for them. The current president of El Salvador is actually bringing back a lot of the old harsh "cruel and unusual" methods against the gangs that have ruled the country for years and he's making progress, while also being accused of being a dictator and violating human rights by the current US regime. He's also hugely popular in the country because people were very tired of de facto rule by organized crime.

That's another example of what I meant by people in Latin America being better off without a system that tries to ape what we've got in the US or the UK. Basically, in ethnically Aztec and Mayan areas they need a system that's a modern update of what their ancestors had, not something slowly developed in Great Britain over the course of centuries and then implemented among Anglo-Saxons in the former colonies of the UK. If you think about it, their trying to ape US government makes about as much sense as Americans trying to base their government on whatever it is they're doing in China based on the fact that China does a lot of things right.

Those countries are meant to be Kingdoms not democracies.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
It's worse than a civil war, or maybe better from his point of view. In a civil war, the opposing side has some political support, and some constituency in the population.

MS 13 obviously has numbers, and there must be people who benefit, and facilitate the gang activity. However, they are so obviously criminal and evil, he can go hard core on them, round them up en masse, and lock them all in prison camps for life, just for being members of the gang, no need to prove specific crimes against individuals. If you're covered in gang tattoos, you're rounded up and put in prison for life. No second chance. I imagine the cops don't hesitate to shoot anyone resisting arrest either.

The government has a free hand to totally wipe out the gang and permanently eliminate it from society. You can't do that in a regular civil war. You eventually have to reach some kind of peace with the other side.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
It's worse than a civil war, or maybe better from his point of view. In a civil war, the opposing side has some political support, and some constituency in the population.

MS 13 obviously has numbers, and there must be people who benefit, and facilitate the gang activity. However, they are so obviously criminal and evil, he can go hard core on them, round them up en masse, and lock them all in prison camps for life, just for being members of the gang, no need to prove specific crimes against individuals. If you're covered in gang tattoos, you're rounded up and put in prison for life. No second chance. I imagine the cops don't hesitate to shoot anyone resisting arrest either.

The government has a free hand to totally wipe out the gang and permanently eliminate it from society. You can't do that in a regular civil war. You eventually have to reach some kind of peace with the other side.

Yeah. I will just favor shooting them all in a firing squad.
 

bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
I do too, and I've wondered why they don't. I think they expect too much backlash from the globohomo international system, and possibly even domestically.
I've seen some detailed reports on life in Bukele's prisons for gang members. Looks like hell on earth, and I imagine a quick death would be preferable. They basically promise them they won't be getting out for decades, if ever. Maybe that's it.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
I've seen some detailed reports on life in Bukele's prisons for gang members. Looks like hell on earth, and I imagine a quick death would be preferable. They basically promise them they won't be getting out for decades, if ever. Maybe that's it.

I know. But I'd rather have the afterlife be their prison until judgment day.
 

Laner

Hummingbird
Protestant
Gold Member
This thread is now 6 years old, and the way things are going, USA looks much closer to collapse than Mexico. Oh the irony.
I knew a handful of Canadians who left Canada during The Treacheries and have not returned. Even some families.

I would say that by this time their 'honeymoon' phase would be over and the reality of living full time in Mexico would have hit. But none have come back. Even the ones with children.

Says a lot.
 

The Penitent Man

Pelican
Protestant
Interesting, I’d never seen a picture of him. He’s relatively young and seems quite chipper. He could almost pass for Mexican Roosh. I’d imagine it’s the younger generations that are fed up with what their predecessors have allowed to happen to their countries, have a complete lack of tolerance for it, and the vigor and resolve to put it to an end. Would love to see something like that here but I don’t believe our beast political system would allow someone with those ideas of reform to even get a foothold.

Also a very interesting background for a Central American:

Nayib Armando Bukele Ortez was born on 24 July 1981 in San Salvador.[11] He is a son of Armando Bukele Kattán and Olga Ortez de Bukele.[11][12]According to The Times of Israel, Bukele's paternal grandparents were Palestinian Christians from Jerusalem and Bethlehem while his maternal grandmother was Catholic and his maternal grandfather was Greek Orthodox.[13] His father later converted to Islam and became an imam.[13]

Bukele has publicly stated he considers himself a believer in God first rather than religion.[13][198] In a 2015 interview he said that "I am not a person who believes much in the liturgy of religions. However, I believe in God, in Jesus Christ. I believe in his word, I believe in his word revealed in the Holy Bible. And I know that God does not reject anyone because of their origins."[13][199]
 

The Penitent Man

Pelican
Protestant

The global media doesn’t like the prison, says it’s like a concentration camp. That being said, that is a lot of refuse being stored away with the potential for escape or future release should the country’s leadership change. I say do ‘em all up in a big batch like the Chinese do their pigs.
 

eL-JJ

Robin
Other Christian
I recommend people in this forum to get deep into the topic of Mexico before making an assessment of what is happening:

- Foreign NGOs and so called "Human Rights" Orgs protests.
- Who actually runs the drug cartels?
- Threats of invasion by Lindsey Graham and Zioclop Crenshaw.
- Attacks by globalist media and the usual suspects:alien: .
- Good relationship between AMLO and Trump.
- Visa free agreements between Mexico are Russia.
- Foreign companies and investment moving to Mexico, fast development.
 

Helmsman

Robin
Protestant
I recommend people in this forum to get deep into the topic of Mexico before making an assessment of what is happening:

- Foreign NGOs and so called "Human Rights" Orgs protests.
- Who actually runs the drug cartels?
- Threats of invasion by Lindsey Graham and Zioclop Crenshaw.
- Attacks by globalist media and the usual suspects:alien: .
- Good relationship between AMLO and Trump.
- Visa free agreements between Mexico are Russia.
- Foreign companies and investment moving to Mexico, fast development.
Saddle up for the Second Mexican-American War. This time we’ll keep the place. It’s been too long since anyone had a proper vassal state.
 
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