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joost

Kingfisher
This is a trailer for the upcoming Russian sci-fi movie which, as it seems, doesnt have anything original, looks like mix of Aliens and Promethius. But who knows, maybe there's an unexpected twist:

Looks like a nice one. Care to share the name in English so I can bookmark and download when it releases? I use themoviedb.org (instead of imdb) if you can find the link.
 

thetruewhitenorth

Woodpecker
Orthodox
Looks like a nice one. Care to share the name in English so I can bookmark and download when it releases? I use themoviedb.org (instead of imdb) if you can find the link.
Its "Project Gemini".


There's also a trailer in English:

 

Maddox

Woodpecker
Protestant
I basically never liked him because his films are disgusting and make me feel bad, so I never tried to analyze his stuff too deeply. I'll admit he's a skilled film maker, but he's what I call a demoralist because he makes his audience suffer while he mocks them on a couple of levels for not having the focus & recall to see what he's really doing. This isn't every frame of his every film, I don't put Dune here, and I never watched his TV show Twin Peaks, but this is his main theme: that he hates his audience and wants to harm, humiliate, and demoralize them, and he's not alone. That's really become the norm IMO.

Eraserhead is a low budget, feel-bad film with certain audio effects meant to scar the audience's psyche. It's not just noise, it's hateful noise.

Blue Velvet is a sick & twisted mockery of normal, familial love.

In Mulholland Dr the entire coherency of the plot hinged on some mcguffin about a slipper or something (been a long time), but Lynch just threw it out the window in what seemed to me like an attempt to see what he could get away with, basically thumbing his nose at the audience.

I think there was an historical period for most Western cinema where the purpose was to demoralize and degrade the audience and its culture. Early 60's Bergman might have been the beginning, then the breaking of the Hayes code in the USA kicked off about 40 years of talented, and often--but not always--twisted people creating "demoralization cinema." In this meta-genre, Lynch is way up there.

This period ended in 2004 when Alexander Payne won the Oscar for best adapted screenplay for Sideways, which he also directed, very well I might add. It's sort of the apex of quality for a demoralizing film, one with an upbeat ending tacked onto the end in order to help the previous two hours penetrate the viewer's mind.

Since then, films are mostly just trash, like what happens when a food or drink market gets taken over by a monopoly or small cartel and production quality no longer matters because the customers' taste buds have been burnt out to the point they can't tell the difference between Classic Coke or New. That's where we are now.

How can you compare a David Lynch film to Sideways? I haven't seen enough of Lynch's work to be able to comment on him as a filmmaker, but I will say that Blue Velvet was disturbing to watch.

But Sideways? It's one of the best movies of 2004. It's not something that I'd recommend to Christians because it has the usual immoral attitudes of certain characters, but it's hardly the apex of demoralizing films.

For one thing, the characters are some of the best drawn characters in recent memory. Sure, Jack is a flawed person. But Miles acts as the moral counterpoint to Jack's careless, hedonistic ways. He points out that this last fling of his isn't worth it, that he's jeopardizing his relationship with the girl he's going to marry. Jack also pays a price in the end for his cheating. He doesn't get off scot-free.

So while the film may not be the most moral, I would gladly watch films like this over and over vs the trash we are given today. Having every character in a film be a saint means you usually end up with a boring film because of the lack of conflict movies so badly need.
 

2 Right Hands

Woodpecker
Catholic
As for Lynch, his movies are usually pretty weird or even disturbing but I did enjoy The Straight Story which was a very un-Lynch flick. One could even say it's a feel-good movie. I admit, the last time I watched it was good 10 years ago so it's possible that my perception of it would have changed since.
 

thetruewhitenorth

Woodpecker
Orthodox
As for Lynch, his movies are usually pretty weird or even disturbing but I did enjoy The Straight Story which was a very un-Lynch flick. One could even say it's a feel-good movie. I admit, the last time I watched it was good 10 years ago so it's possible that my perception of it would have changed since.
I watched The Straight Story about two years ago and I confirm its a kind, sweet, feel good movie. Highly recommend.
 

MartyMcFly

Kingfisher
Other Christian
As for Lynch, his movies are usually pretty weird or even disturbing but I did enjoy The Straight Story which was a very un-Lynch flick. One could even say it's a feel-good movie. I admit, the last time I watched it was good 10 years ago so it's possible that my perception of it would have changed since.
I agree that it definitely does not feel like a David Lynch movie. I gave this a 6/10. The acting is decent and quite realistic. However, the plot is pretty simple. I think the biggest reason I disliked it is because:

the main older guy's brother had a stroke and it is implied he could die at any time. The main older guy dislikes taking a bus and decides to take a lawnmower instead. He lives in a small town and has friends and it is very likely he could A) ask for a ride B) suck up a bus ride of a few hours which is a small sacrifice to rekindle a relationship with a brother that may die soon, C) hitchhike (riskier but in northern Iowa and not on freeways-it is lower risk, D) walk-it is 300 miles so at a slow pace of 10 miles a day it would take 4 weeks, E) Take a lawn mower which took 6 weeks and cost a lot more than a bus ticket or gas for a car trip would take. He took the slowest and most expensive way and his brother could have died during that time. I couldn't sympathize with this ridiculous idea.
 

Turretin

Sparrow
Protestant
Yes, this was an excellent film, also known as Manhunter, and it's my favorite from the Hannibal series. Even though it's less graphic than the others, I thought this one was more suspenseful and that Brian Cox' version of Hannibal was more realistically sinister than any of the following films. For dark films about psycho serial killers, this is one of the few I'd want to watch again.
Anthony Hopkins is of course that great as Hannibal that anyone else loses in comparison, for example that danish actor, whose danish films are really good.
 

Tom Slick

Woodpecker
Orthodox
How can you compare a David Lynch film to Sideways? It's one of the best movies of 2004.

I also think Sideways is a great film and it's one of my all-time favorites; I have seen it many, many times. After reading the book, I'm even more impressed by Payne and his co-writer because they improved on the original story quite a bit.

but it's hardly the apex of demoralizing films.

What I said was, It's sort of the apex of quality for a demoralizing film, and by that I meant it is perhaps the highest quality film that I place into my meta-genre of "demoralization cinema." Lynch and Payne have two things in common: they're both talented film-makers and they both fit into this category.

I'm proposing that there was a 40+ year international trend to produce films that were intended to make the audience feel bad, and that most of the trends that are set by the media industry, in film, music, books, etc., are implicitly promoted simply by the projects that are green-lighted. Artists can read the writing on the wall and if they want to publish instead of perish, they get on board, which is what I think Payne did in this film and also with Election (1999) starring Matthew Broderick and Renee Zellweger, and About Schmidt (2002) starring Jack Nicholson.

I do think Sideways is demoralizing because, as Jack said to Miles, "Why do you have to focus on the negative?" However, it is still genuine and poignant, and as Mya said to Miles about his book, "There are so many beautiful and painful things about it."

That's why I consider it the apex of quality for a demoralizing film.
 
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Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
876D7698-BBE7-4E55-BB41-463C7937F35E.jpegJust remembered “ A Good Year” (2006) Directed. By Ridley Scott and starring Russell Crow, Albert Finney, and a really good supporting cast. Its lighter fare than usual from Ridley Scott but its well done overall. Cinematography is beautifully done and it’s generally upbeat which is refreshing at the moment
 

fireshark

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
Big Trouble in Little China - The dialog is absolutely hilarious, as is the final fight scene, especially. I think one of Carpenter's underrated skills is casting. Even small-bit parts with not-so-famous people I've never seen before always feel like the perfect person for their role. Overall, I prefer Escape from New York, but there's a lot to like about this one.
 

OrthoCole

Sparrow
Orthodox Catechumen
'The Eyes of Tammy Faye' is a behind the scenes look at the world of American Evangelicalism. Not just the corruption, which is to be expected, but the convergence of capitalism, neoconservatism and a pseudo-christian moralism. I found it to be a decent depiction of the spiritual state of America back in the 70's and 80's which we continue to suffer under today.

The performances of Andrew Garfield and Jessica Chastain were amazing, I'd recommend it if you like drama and are interested in recent American history.

 

renotime

Ostrich
Catholic
Gold Member
Finally got a chance to see Licorice Pizza. Reminded me a lot of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, main difference is that Tarantino's movie had more cohesion and you knew it was leading you to a destination. PTA's just kind of wanders everywhere around The San Fernando Valley, not that that's a bad thing.

It's basically a bunch of vignettes, with this kid operating as a young PT Barnum on the periphery of Hollywood, starting up a new business (water bed store, pinball arcade) here and there with proceeds from his acting career, while trying to get a nice Jewish girl ten years his senior to fall in love with him.

PTA certainly knows how to light and frame a shot and is always cinematic. The movie is a total nostalgia fest and a lot of fun, although on rare moments it spins its wheels.
 

Prores

Sparrow
Orthodox
Big Trouble in Little China - The dialog is absolutely hilarious, as is the final fight scene, especially. I think one of Carpenter's underrated skills is casting. Even small-bit parts with not-so-famous people I've never seen before always feel like the perfect person for their role. Overall, I prefer Escape from New York, but there's a lot to like about this one.

Great movie- I love how Kurt Russel looks around at the supporting cast and recaps what is going on in the movie every 20 minutes or so. You could literally walk in at any time and get caught up to speed.
 

fireshark

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
Great movie- I love how Kurt Russel looks around at the supporting cast and recaps what is going on in the movie every 20 minutes or so. You could literally walk in at any time and get caught up to speed.
I love how he's almost totally useless due to some freak accident at the start of every fight.

When he shot the ceiling and knocked himself with falling debris, I nearly fell off my chair.
:laughter:
 

GuitarVH

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
Saw Matrix Resurrections yesterday evening. I was expecting 100% unwatchable trash, so the bar was pretty low, and even though it was well over two hours long, I enjoyed parts of it and simply ignored the rest.

Listened today to Morgoth's review and he says it better than I can, so I suggest you check him out. He also does some great classic film reviews with Endeavor, so give him a try.


or his bitchute channel


Like Skynet, Matrix 4 is self-aware and tries to have a joke at its audience's expense, including a giant neon sign in the opening fight sequence that says, "For those who like to eat shit."

However, the joke is really on the Wachowski's because nothing they have done can get past the fact that they have no new or original ideas to offer. And although the reboot has adapted some of the previous characters from the oughties into more current iterations: the masonic god architect has become a psychiatric control freak and explicit transformation into agents has been replaced with quicker and less dramatic release of the NPC's or MKULTRAs, who are more numerous than agents could ever be in a properly functioning matrix, they're still just regurgitating old ideas like any post-modern franchise.

I saw Matrix 4 the day it came out (at home). Throughout most of the movie, I was wondering when it was going to end and how I could power through it. The characters had no emotional involvement for me and I unfortunately didn't care what happened to anyone. I actually paused the movie in the middle and did something else for a few hours like eat or work-out, I can't remember exactly. Niobe's cold, authoritarian attitude toward Neo as well as her lesbian relationship was particularly annoying. Keanu seemed annoyed to have to act in it.

On the other hand, I always found The Matrix to be one of the best movies of the 90s and even the last few decades. Almost at any point of watching that movie if I happened upon it on TV, it was very hard not to watch the rest of it to the triumphant end. That's how engrossing the original was with the pacing and suspense, similar to Pulp Fiction in that regard.

Unlike the original Matrix where you might ponder some of the ideas, symbolism, heroism and critique of society, Matrix 4 has none of that. You don't think about it much afterwards and even during it, you might be wondering what is the point of this movie and why am I wasting my time watching it?
 

MartyMcFly

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I saw this recently. This movie is pretty dark and the acting is quite good. What is scary is how this could easily happen to any man and it actually has happened to several innocent men. This movie shows why teaching is a bad choice for heterosexual men because of the people you have to work with. The school's headmaster really troubled me. Your comfortable life can be quickly shattered at any time because of a few people quick to label you guilty without proof. I don't want to spoil the movie but if you can handle subtitles, it is worthwhile.

 
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