The Movie Thread

Anyone else here watch "Drive" with Ryan Gosling? I thought it was one of the best movies to come out in the past couple years, great fight scenes, great car chases, good cinemotography, etc. Through the lense of the "red-pill" and the "manosphere" it can be debated that Gosling's character has both alpha and beta qualities. However, I don't really give a fuck about that shit, it's a good movie, well written, and directed, good acting, action, and villains. Also, it's kind of trippy and reminds me a lot of some of David Lynch's movies like Blue Velvet.

Another pretty good one that Gosling was in was "Blue Valentine", I was less of a fan of this movie, but it was a really good case study for how relationships rise and fall. It's got a unique directorial style that shifts between points in time, with a lot of flashbacks to the past interspersed with stuff in the present. The movie has a lot of emotion, realness, and rawness to it, I don't think your typical RVF member will love it, but it is a very accurate portrayal of how a LTR can deteriorate.

As far as red-pill/blue-pill movies that relate to this "manosphere" stuff, I recommend in another thread a movie called "Bellflower", it is probably the most concise portrayal of a beta character in a movie I've ever scene. Without spoiling it for you guys, I will give you a little run down, this uber-beta nice guy, meets an attractive wild party girl, he has a bit of love at first sight, she falls for him, only to revert back to her whore ways, and fuck him over, and he goes completely off the deep end.

Finally, the last movie that I've been liking a lot that I've seen most recently is "Ong Bak" a classic martial arts movie from Thailand. Great Muay Thai fight scenes and story line.
 
soup said:
Did anyone see the Les Miserables film that just came out?
The musical? :gay: I love all kinds of movies but don't know how someone can sit through one.

I've seen Drive and didn't like it. Thought it was overrated.

I just watched the 2012 Total Recall. It's a remake of the early 90's version with Governor Arnold. It had plenty of action but I wasn't impressed. Of course, there's 2 bad ass girls in it who are kicking grown men's asses while wearing heels and being witty :boring: The original is 100x better.
 

Prufrock

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I saw Drive in the theaters and enjoyed it – it’s a decent popcorn flick. However, it did leave me a bit unsatisfied, and after thinking about it for a minute, I realized why.

Drive is basically a well-crafted bootleg, like a knock off Rolex or Louis Vuitton bag that almost passes for the real thing.

Drive is an amalgamation many movies that came before it, and on its own, it’s not quite as good as any of the movies it’s influenced by. These include American Gigolo, To Live and Die in L.A., Michael Mann’s Thief, Bullitt, & Le Samourai. Even the soundtrack is heavily indebted to Giorgio Moroder’s OST for Gigolo and Tangerine Dream’s score for Thief. That’s no coincidence. Part of Tangerine Dream’s score from Risky Business is actually playing on the car stereo in one of the scenes in Drive. There’s also a movie from 1978 called The Driver (that I haven’t seen), that Drive supposedly also draws a lot of influence from

The two main characters are my biggest problem with the movie. Ryan Gosling is trying to be the Sigma, lone wolf-type that Richard Gere, William Peterson, James Caan, Steve McQueen, Alain Delon, Clint Eastwood et al. portrayed, but he comes across as a cipher with no subtext. Carey Mulligan’s character is also frustrating. In a film noir, she’d be a femme fatale. Here she’s merely a damsel in distress for Ryan Gosling to play Captain Save a Ho with.

Really, my beef with Drive is that it’s all style and no substance. American Gigolo, which is modeled after Robert Bresson’s Pickpocket, is equally stylish and visually appealing, but there’s a depth to it, a sense of loneliness and mournfulness that stays with me after the film is over. Roger Ebert compared the protagonist of Pickpocket to Raskolnikov from Dostoyevsky’s Crime and Punishment. I suppose that’s a good model for the sigma character in all these films.

Of course, American Gigolo was written and directed by Paul Schrader, who wrote the script for Taxi Driver. That’s a guy who knows a thing or two about isolation and loneliness!

Like I said, I enjoyed Drive, but I highly recommend people check out some of the films that obviously influenced it.

I smelled Los Angeles before I got to it.…But the colored lights fooled you. The lights were wonderful. There ought to be a monument to the man who invented neon lights.…There’s a boy who really made something out of nothing. – Raymond Chandler

I also saw and enjoyed Blue Valentine, although it’s rather depressing.

Heartiste pretty much wrote the definitive analysis:

Beta Valentine.





 

Prufrock

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I saw Drive in the theaters and enjoyed it – it’s a decent popcorn flick. However, it did leave me a bit unsatisfied, and after thinking about it for a minute, I realized why.

Drive is basically a well-crafted bootleg, like a knock off Rolex or Louis Vuitton bag that almost passes for the real thing.

Drive is an amalgamation of many movies that came before it, and on its own, it’s not quite as good as any of the movies it’s influenced by. These include American Gigolo, To Live and Die in L.A., Michael Mann’s Thief, Bullitt, & Le Samourai. Even the soundtrack is heavily indebted to Giorgio Moroder’s OST for Gigolo and Tangerine Dream’s score for Thief. That’s no coincidence. Part of Tangerine Dream’s score from Risky Business is actually playing on the car stereo in one of the scenes in Drive. There’s also a movie from 1978 called The Driver (that I haven’t seen) that Drive supposedly also draws a lot of influence from

The two main characters are my biggest problem with the movie. Ryan Gosling is trying to be the Sigma, lone wolf-type that Richard Gere, William Peterson, James Caan, Steve McQueen, Alain Delon, Clint Eastwood et al. portrayed, but he comes across as a cipher with no subtext. Carey Mulligan’s character is also frustrating. In a film noir, she’d be a femme fatale. Here she’s merely a damsel in distress for Ryan Gosling to play Captain Save a Hoe with.

Really, my beef with Drive is that it’s all style and no substance. American Gigolo, which is modeled after Robert Bresson’s Pickpocket, is equally stylish and visually appealing, but there’s a depth to it, a sense of loneliness and mournfulness that stays with me after the film is over. Roger Ebert compared the protagonist of Pickpocket to Raskolnikov from Dostoyevsky’s Crime and Punishment. I suppose that’s a good model for the sigma character in all these films.

Of course, American Gigolo was written and directed by Paul Schrader, who wrote the script for Taxi Driver. That’s a guy who knows a thing or two about isolation and loneliness!

Like I said, I enjoyed Drive, but I highly recommend people check out some of the films that obviously influenced it.

I smelled Los Angeles before I got to it.…But the colored lights fooled you. The lights were wonderful. There ought to be a monument to the man who invented neon lights.…There’s a boy who really made something out of nothing. – Raymond Chandler

I also saw and enjoyed Blue Valentine, although it’s rather depressing.

Heartiste pretty much wrote the definitive analysis:

Beta Valentine.

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Prufrock

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I saw Drive in the theater and enjoyed it – it’s a decent popcorn flick. However, it did leave me a bit unsatisfied, and after thinking about it for a minute, I realized why.

Drive is basically a well-crafted bootleg, like a knock off Rolex or Louis Vuitton bag that almost passes for the real thing.

Drive is an amalgamation of many movies that came before it, and on its own, it’s not quite as good as any of the movies it’s influenced by. These include American Gigolo, To Live and Die in L.A., Michael Mann’s Thief, Bullitt, & Le Samourai. Even the soundtrack is heavily indebted to Giorgio Moroder’s OST for Gigolo and Tangerine Dream’s score for Thief. That’s no coincidence. Part of Tangerine Dream’s score from Risky Business is actually playing on the car stereo in one of the scenes in Drive. There’s also a movie from 1978 called The Driver (that I haven’t seen) that Drive supposedly also draws a lot of influence from

The two main characters are my biggest problem with the movie. Ryan Gosling is trying to be the Sigma, lone wolf-type that Richard Gere, William Petersen, James Caan, Steve McQueen, Alain Delon, Clint Eastwood et al. portrayed, but to me he comes across as a cipher with no subtext. Carey Mulligan’s character is also frustrating. In a film noir, she’d be a femme fatale. Here she’s merely a damsel in distress for Ryan Gosling to play Captain Save a Hoe with.

Really, my beef with Drive is that it’s all style and no substance. American Gigolo, which is modeled after Robert Bresson’s Pickpocket, is equally stylish and visually appealing, but there’s a depth to it, a sense of loneliness and mournfulness that stays with me after the film is over. Roger Ebert compared the protagonist of Pickpocket to Raskolnikov from Dostoyevsky’s Crime and Punishment. I suppose Raskolnikov is a good model for the sigma character in all these films.

Of course, American Gigolo was written and directed by Paul Schrader, who wrote the script for Taxi Driver. That’s a guy who knows a thing or two about isolation and loneliness!

Like I said, I enjoyed Drive, the head stomping bit is almost worth the price of admission alone. And I'll never complain about having to watch Bryan Cranston or Albert Brooks. But the film seems to be less than the sum of its parts. I highly recommend people check out some of the movies that obviously influenced it.

I smelled Los Angeles before I got to it.…But the colored lights fooled you. The lights were wonderful. There ought to be a monument to the man who invented neon lights.…There’s a boy who really made something out of nothing. – Raymond Chandler

I also saw and appreciated Blue Valentine, although it’s rather depressing.

Heartiste pretty much wrote the definitive analysis:

Beta Valentine.

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painter

Woodpecker
Great post Prufrock. I liked Drive, the cinematography was great, the soundtrack was good and it was a hardcore film as in the violence was realistic. Most shit out of Hollywood is of the feel-good, happy ending, PG-13 get as many asses in the thater as possible. The films you cite as influences are stellar. Thief with James Caan directed by Michael Mann (who also did Heat, another classic) is a great flick and I see the similarity between the main characters. I love the ending, won't give it away because it's a must see movie. James Caan's character is a great example of a guy living by a code who will take it all the way.

To Live And Die In LA is also a classic. One of the greatest car chases of all time directed by William Friedkin who did the French Connection which had another classic car chase. Friedkin also directed Killer Joe which just came out and I thought was great. It was released as NC-17 so it didn't do shit at the box office but you gotta love a director who refuses to make cuts that cheapen the story in order to gain mass appeal. Gina Gershon's bush appears in the first minute (although they say she wore a mirkin) which let's you know what kind of movie you're in for, lots of nudity and violence set in a world of trailer trash. Definitely a must see movie. I downloaded the song Strokin' by Clarence Carter after seeing it, great tune used to good effect.

Friedkin also directed The Hunted with Tommy Lee Jones and Benicio Del Toro which I thought was excellent. The beginning is one of the most brutal and realistic war scenes you will ever see on screen. I loved how Tommy Lee Jones character is a guy who can track anything and can just walk off into the woods with the clothes on his back and survive. Lots of bloodshed and a high body count, another must see. Friedkin hasn't made a ton of movies and gets kind of a bad rap in Hollywood circles but his movies are brutal and he's got two Oscars for The French Connection and The Omen.
 

Nonpareil

Pelican
Gold Member
Drive was a cool movie; well shot, well-acted, not that heavy on story and social commentary, the perfect flick to just lay back with a bong and hang out with.

Last movie I watched, and it definitely receives my vote for funniest movie of all time. Most of you are in your twenties, so you probably haven't seen it for a few years, so do yourself a favor.

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Gladiator
Speed
The Departed
City of God
Heat
Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Hero
LA Confidential
American Beauty
Predator
Inception
Fargo
Terminator II: Judgment Day
300

The following James Bond flicks make the list: Goldfinger, Diamonds are Forever, The Spy Who Loved Me, Goldeneye and Casino Royale.

Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
Wedding Crashers
Caddyshack
There's Something About Mary
Kingpin
Hot Fuzz
 

soup

Owl
Gold Member
I'm just watching wedding crashers for the first time now because my friend and I were talking about doing it in real life.

This movie is like a big inside joke for players

Highly recommend.
 

the chef

Woodpecker
anyone see Les Miserables?

edit: didn't see that someone already asked this question. i saw it today after watching django... first 15 minutes were kind of unbearable but i enjoyed it towards the end.
 
Awesome movies:

Layer Cake: Daniel Craig is a coke trafficker who gets in a deal with some mdma stolen from Serbian war criminals and the aftermath between that.

Catch Me If You Can: Natural con artist and his true story about being a thief who beat the FBI for almost a decade. True Story

Felon: A family man who goes past the legal limits of defending his castle. Finds himself in the deepest end of the harshest prison.

Gladiator: Politics throw a Roman general from fighting countries into the frying pan of hand to hand combat and the journey out.

In Bruges: Colin Ferrel is a hitman who on his first job, shoots through his target and kills a 6 yr old kid. He hides with his partner in Bruges waiting for the heat to die down.

Lucky Number Slevin: Josh Hartnett is a man who's luck ran out, staying in a friend's apartment when 2 different criminal families decide that his friend (now him) owes about $100,000.

Man on Fire: Denzel is a former mercenary whose last protectee showed him that life was worth living. Big mistake.

Pulp Fiction: Classic. Hard to describe, but I really recommend it.

Rise of the Foot Soldier: The movie starts with 3 murders of the most dangerous drug dealers in Essex, UK. First quote: "But before the murders, beatings, torture and ecstasy, there was football" The story of a young badass into a serious weight in the work-for-hire very shady industry. True story

Snatch: A giant diamond "The size uf ya fist" goes missing. The movie shows everyone involved and their involvement.

Street Thief: A commercial burglar in Chicago (If you ain't heard by now, I'm talking about Chi-town) gives an inside view to his life. Until shit goes bad.

Thank You for Smoking: Lobbyist for tobacco shows how he kicks ass.

The Business: International Playboy 101: traffic hashish from Morocco to Spain. Then don't get killed by your asshole partners.

The Grey: Liam Neison is a sniper for wolves on oil rigs (Goddamn manliest job ever) whose plane back to civilization crashes and he emerges as the leader of men trying to survive. GREAT movie about the essence of masculinity and the sacrifices involved.

The Town: Ben Affleck robs armored trucks w/ the new Bourne. You wanna know about loyalty? This is your movie.

Ben: "I need your help, you can never ask me about this again, and we're going to hurt some people"

New Bourne guy: "Who's car we gonna take?"


Traffick: The daughter of a federal judge gets into heroin. The wife of a coke trafficker starts where he left off. A guy selling quarter tons of coke gets busted. The dynamics between them shows the difficulty between legalization of drugs vs not.

Training Day: Denzel and some white guy have the shittiest day ever. Rookie to having a shotgun in his mouth in 24 hrs.



Pretty good:

Alpha Dog: Guy from that hiking in Alaska movie kidnaps a kid over a $1200 debt. Justin Timberlake takes care of him. Basically, a guide on how you can constantly be digging yourself deeper. True story. Top 10 FBI most wanted.

American History X: Ed Norton and his younger brother experience the neo-Nazi deal and what life can really look like when you cut out the bullshit.

Brotherhood: Frat initiation is to rob a convience store. A brother around the corner gives you money and you pretend you robbed it. 1 time, they fuck up the location and one actually robs a store. This ends up in a hostage in the basement "where you can't hear screaming". 1 bad decision leads to another.

Crazy Stupid Love: Ryan Gosling turns Steve Carell from fuckin loser to man. Terrible story and most parts, but Gosling is my goal for who to be: rich, well dressed, interesting. Great rolemodel in my book.

Drive: Getaway driver sees the clean life in a cute neighbor (but why the fuck she has short hair?)

The American: Clooney is an assassin hiding out in rural Italy who falls in love with a whore. Crystallized why I didn't get into covert operations.

The Guard: A cop in rural England takes LSD in the opening scene. He ends up finding a huge coke deal going down with Basher from Oceans 11 and they plan to take them down.

Shawshank Redemption: An innocent man makes his way through prison. Classic

The Next Three Days: Russell Crowe plans a prison break getting his wrongly accused wife (that "Got a big trunk gonna put a bike in it blonde bitch" from 40 yr virgin)

Thomas Crowne Affair: Late 90's James Bond is a Billionaire who does heists for fun. Dope for lifestyle.

Unstoppable: A train that can't stop. Sounded shitty but I remember liking it.

V for Vendetta: Terrorist tries to fix his country. At the end, you'll put your hand in the air.


These are my picks. Let me know if you agree or not or got any recommendations.
 

Ryre

Woodpecker
Looper. Fantastic, restore-your-faith-in-cinema good. Above all, it is smart...creative, inventive...can't say enough. Don't let the previews stop you, they didn't grab me either. The concept--in the future, government monitoring has made it impossible to dispose of bodies, so criminal gangs use time machines to send people they want eliminated back in time, where they are killed by specialized assassins called "loopers"--might sound implausible, but the way it plays out is fascinating.

The Hobbit, however, was downright disappointing. Not that it didn't have its moments, but I was bored and/or irritated for significant stretches.
 

Nonpareil

Pelican
Gold Member
Big ups 1Minute for Shawshank Redemption and Thank You for Smoking.

Ryre said:
The Hobbit, however, was downright disappointing. Not that it didn't have its moments, but I was bored and/or irritated for significant stretches.

Yeah, The Hobbit is in a tricky situation; in addition to the fact that Lord of the Rings is a very tough act to follow, it's just not as entertaining a story; one day nine dudes show up and say 'Yo, let's kill a dragon and take his shit!', whereas LotR has much more at stake, more compelling characters and of course, far more numerous and superior action scenes.

If I could have done it, I would have shot The Hobbit first...but of course, LotR is a far more bankable property (even with the ridiculous idea to stagger it all across three movies).
 

painter

Woodpecker
Okay couple movies I saw recently. Inland Empire directed by David Lynch. I really like his movies Wild At Heart, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway were all very good, even the Twin Peaks movie was cool but that and Mulholland Drive started down the road where you need IMDB.com or Wikipedia to explain what happened. Inland Empire is 3 hours of just bizarre shit, creepy humanoid bunnies, weird Hollywood types and a "plot" that jumps all over. Most of the actors said they have no idea what it's about. I think a bunch of it was filmed in Poland and the hookers in the movie are all Polish too, I think. Took me a week to watch, totally bizarre but Lynch knows how to put a scene up with some creepy music and keep you watching. I would only recommend this for diehard Lynch fans.

Bronson, directed by Nicholas Winding Refn who did Drive after this. Stars Tom Hardy who got into sick shape on this movie and went on to do Warriors (?) about the MMA brothers which was great and Dark Knight Rises (Bane). Hilarious movie, really violent, never heard of this guy but it sounds like he's very famous in England as their most notorious prison inmate. Hardy did a great job, lots of violence, little too much male nudity for my taste but it makes the movie realistic. Good music too, some of my favorite classical tunes (Wagner) and some electronic stuff I never heard before. Lots of extras on the dvd including how they trained Hardy, said he ate 5000 calories a day and did 2500 pushups a day, basically following a prison workout book that Bronson wrote. The guy is an animal and it's a good portrayal of the brute in man.
 
The Raid: Redemption, sick ass action/martial arts movie from Indonesia, probably one of the best action movies I've seen in a very long time, and great fight scenes featuring the style Pencak Silat.

 

Cincinnatus

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I need to peep that flick, OG. I remember seeing the trailers for it before it was released and it looked super kickass. Then when it finally hit theaters I was working 70+ hour weeks. :mad:
 
The Raid is pretty good. I reviewed it in my Foreign Movie thread.

I watched Resident Evil - Retribution. It was sort of entertaining but to cheesy for me. I guess you'll like it if you're into the video game. Kind of how I like the Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter flicks :laugh: Michelle Rodriguez looked juicy wearing heels and tight jeans. I bet she has a tight, dyke pussy.
 
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