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I just perused a list of American Civil War movies and there aren't too many, most of them made prior to 1970. You would think there'd be a lot more CW movies given all the material and drama, not to mention inherent interest by Americans and possibly foreigners, and yet there is a severe lack, probably due to who controls Hollywood. Lincoln was a good film, I would have to rewatch Gods and Generals, since I nearly fell asleep in the theater when I watched it as a teenager. Maybe CW films don't do well, or they're hard to shoot, produce, or make interesting, and yet we always have loads of WWII movies coming out. Westerns seem to do okay.
I blame right-wingers on this one. They never came up with a viable alternative to Hollywood, for all the money so many of them have they didn't make any effort in the culture wars. A massively missed opportunity to not build their own platform. It's akin to how Christian Protestants never wrote any great literature. I suppose a good Christian refrains from any sort of entertainment and is not to be of this world, but to offer almost no alternatives? Gibson's movie Father Stu was a good piece, we need more of that. The Civil War is fertile ground for Christian filmmakers, but I'm sure they lack the money. You would almost need some sort of Christian billionaire visionary, if such a person exists. Jesus told stories, films are stories. I don't just want to read about a saint, I want to watch him accurately portrayed (I think here of that film Hacksaw Ridge, about the hero pacifist Christian), but I know we must all be careful about blasphemy.
I blame right-wingers on this one. They never came up with a viable alternative to Hollywood, for all the money so many of them have they didn't make any effort in the culture wars. A massively missed opportunity to not build their own platform. It's akin to how Christian Protestants never wrote any great literature. I suppose a good Christian refrains from any sort of entertainment and is not to be of this world, but to offer almost no alternatives? Gibson's movie Father Stu was a good piece, we need more of that. The Civil War is fertile ground for Christian filmmakers, but I'm sure they lack the money. You would almost need some sort of Christian billionaire visionary, if such a person exists. Jesus told stories, films are stories. I don't just want to read about a saint, I want to watch him accurately portrayed (I think here of that film Hacksaw Ridge, about the hero pacifist Christian), but I know we must all be careful about blasphemy.
It's a pretty divisive event to discuss. Recent years have seen Confederate generals statues torn down and destroyed, even Lincoln statues were attacked for his views on race. We as a country can't even discuss what the war was about without controversy. In the film Gettysburg, C. Thomas Howell's character's cringe line that he is in the South to "free the slaves, of course" would not have been the view of most Union soldiers. Gangs of New York, Outlaw Josey Wales, and The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly are the few that come to mind as not portraying the war in these terms.
As the woke religion strangles Hollywood, it's possible other filmmakers could emerge, but I would expect them to tackle a less controversial war.
I loved this. It’s hard to pin point exactly what the film is trying to say but I was completely captivated. You have any more thoughts on it?
I also found myself laughing hysterically at parts of the dialogue.
Fascinating portrayal of grief/despair/ loss of friendship. One man feels his friend is contributing to his despair in the life they were living together and wants to completely change, while the other enters into despair upon hearing this. Set against the backdrop of super Catholic rural Ireland in the 1920s (crosses everywhere , multiple scenes at church). Feels almost like a fable at times with the music and some surreal shots, but at the same time is completely real. We see too many man loses woman stories.this is quite a unique movie.
I watched Babylon today.
Warning - theres a fair amount of degeneracy throughout the film (sex, drugs, nudity). I'm not sure if they were trying to glorify this degenerate behaviour, or if it was supposed to commentary on how evil & disgusting Hollywood is.
The acting was really strong though, and I found myself quite invested in Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie's characters. There's also some redpill truths about the dangers of trying to save damaged women.
This movie definitely could've benefitted from some tighter editing (it's 3 hours long).
I guess I'd rate it a 6/10.
Warning - theres a fair amount of degeneracy throughout the film (sex, drugs, nudity). I'm not sure if they were trying to glorify this degenerate behaviour, or if it was supposed to commentary on how evil & disgusting Hollywood is.
The acting was really strong though, and I found myself quite invested in Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie's characters. There's also some redpill truths about the dangers of trying to save damaged women.
This movie definitely could've benefitted from some tighter editing (it's 3 hours long).
I guess I'd rate it a 6/10.
I remember (((critics))) were particularly harsh on Gods and Generals. They had even more influence back then and essentially buried the movie with their attacks.
Gone with the Wind was considered, until very recently, an outstanding achievement by Hollywood and one of the great movies. Now it comes w/ a disclaimer about racism whenever it's distributed on streaming services.
You can tell that contemporary actors are hesitant to portray characters that would be perceived as racist or anti-Semitic. Topher Grace playing David Duke in BlacKkKlansman was bizarre to watch because it was obvious he dislikes Duke, so he never really completely felt comfortable in the role and it was discomfiting watching him.
While not a narrative feature film, Ken Burns' The Civil War is one of the post-1970 major Civil War productions. The reading of Sullivan's Ballou's letter to his wife is just as moving as something you would get in a major motion picture.
Just came home from a recent modern movie I watched on a movie theater. My parents invited me to go there to watch a movie with them, which I think I haven't done in a theater since 2019, when I watched The Mule. Movie was A Man Called Otto.
Lo and behold, it had a tranny. The whole movie was cucked, with some things definitely better than others. I was interested mostly in the boomer that tries to kill himself throughout the whole movie because his wife died. Said boomer is the main character and Otto himself. It also had hispanic immigrants in the U.S. be main characters, but I didn't really mind that much.
But near the end of the movie, something just clicked. I noticed the whole movie was actually just a Gran Torino adaptation but in 2023. I'll try to list some of the similarities, but there will obviously be spoilers if I haven't spoiled anything yet.
Edit: just remembered, the times where he tries to kill himself are really corny and stupid because of how comical their interruptions are. The first one is because his rope breaks from the ceiling, the second one is because the immigrants somehow found out that he was at a garage while he was trying to kill himself? They don't explain at all how they know he's at a garage. Third one was because an old guy just so happened to stumble on the same train track he was planning on jumping on, and boomer saves him; and the fourth one he just organizes everything for his definitive suicide, but has a flashback and then decides not to? Also the tranny knocks on his door because her parents kicked her out and he shoots at the ceiling by accident with the gun he was using for his suicide.
1. Grumpy boomer main character that has trauma or feels suicidal and that stuff.
2. Immigrant family comes into neighbourhood of said boomer (in Gran Torino they were Koreans, in this one they were hispanics, which I feel is more cucked).
3. Boomer ends up having a good relationship with immigrants by helping them not really intentionally.
4. Boomer has a problem with his neighbourhood (Gran Torino having Korean criminal gangs, and this one just having ableist corporations)
5. Male or supposedly male character has issues growing up/being a man (this one has a female to male tranny instead of an Asian. Look how they massacred my boy) and boomer helps him.
6. Things climax as the problem in his neighbourhood causes more problems for boomer or his immigrant friends.
7. Boomer pulls one final move by not being violent, but instead showing everyone the problem in his neighbourhood (in Gran Torino, the boomer basically kills himself by making the gang shoot him, and gets the gang arrested, saving the immigrant family from criminals. While in this movie, he calls a social media journalist woman to record the evil corporation after they try to take boomer's friend, who is really old and lost a lot of his senses, to an asylum).
The ending was also really similar. It was the immigrant family getting the boomer's possessions and him listing out on a grumpy rant what the family could not do with his possessions. Look up both endings if you're curious, they were the main thing that made it hit for me.
Couldn't find anything saying it was intentional, or someone else acknowledging this.
Lo and behold, it had a tranny. The whole movie was cucked, with some things definitely better than others. I was interested mostly in the boomer that tries to kill himself throughout the whole movie because his wife died. Said boomer is the main character and Otto himself. It also had hispanic immigrants in the U.S. be main characters, but I didn't really mind that much.
But near the end of the movie, something just clicked. I noticed the whole movie was actually just a Gran Torino adaptation but in 2023. I'll try to list some of the similarities, but there will obviously be spoilers if I haven't spoiled anything yet.
Edit: just remembered, the times where he tries to kill himself are really corny and stupid because of how comical their interruptions are. The first one is because his rope breaks from the ceiling, the second one is because the immigrants somehow found out that he was at a garage while he was trying to kill himself? They don't explain at all how they know he's at a garage. Third one was because an old guy just so happened to stumble on the same train track he was planning on jumping on, and boomer saves him; and the fourth one he just organizes everything for his definitive suicide, but has a flashback and then decides not to? Also the tranny knocks on his door because her parents kicked her out and he shoots at the ceiling by accident with the gun he was using for his suicide.
1. Grumpy boomer main character that has trauma or feels suicidal and that stuff.
2. Immigrant family comes into neighbourhood of said boomer (in Gran Torino they were Koreans, in this one they were hispanics, which I feel is more cucked).
3. Boomer ends up having a good relationship with immigrants by helping them not really intentionally.
4. Boomer has a problem with his neighbourhood (Gran Torino having Korean criminal gangs, and this one just having ableist corporations)
5. Male or supposedly male character has issues growing up/being a man (this one has a female to male tranny instead of an Asian. Look how they massacred my boy) and boomer helps him.
6. Things climax as the problem in his neighbourhood causes more problems for boomer or his immigrant friends.
7. Boomer pulls one final move by not being violent, but instead showing everyone the problem in his neighbourhood (in Gran Torino, the boomer basically kills himself by making the gang shoot him, and gets the gang arrested, saving the immigrant family from criminals. While in this movie, he calls a social media journalist woman to record the evil corporation after they try to take boomer's friend, who is really old and lost a lot of his senses, to an asylum).
The ending was also really similar. It was the immigrant family getting the boomer's possessions and him listing out on a grumpy rant what the family could not do with his possessions. Look up both endings if you're curious, they were the main thing that made it hit for me.
Couldn't find anything saying it was intentional, or someone else acknowledging this.
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Interesting analysis. I think most of his points were right on target, although I'm not sure that the older guy's plan of severing his relationship with his friend was meant to get his friend to leave the island. It seems like a reach.
I believe that the older gentleman feels regret for not making something of himself and is taking his frustration out on his friend to punish him for playing a role in that.
What are your thoughts?
Last night I watched Marty, the 1955 Academy Awards winner. I've commented before how they never show this film on cable, even though it won Best Picture. So I was surprised to find it on Prime.
It tells the story of a butcher in his 30s who isn't too lucky with the ladies and starts to wonder if he'll ever find a woman to marry. Meanwhile, he gets constant pressure from his Catholic mother to find a wife. Then one night, he meets a nice girl at a dance and his luck starts to turn for the better.
It's a sweet film that's worth the watch and a nice break from Clown World films. 7/10
It tells the story of a butcher in his 30s who isn't too lucky with the ladies and starts to wonder if he'll ever find a woman to marry. Meanwhile, he gets constant pressure from his Catholic mother to find a wife. Then one night, he meets a nice girl at a dance and his luck starts to turn for the better.
It's a sweet film that's worth the watch and a nice break from Clown World films. 7/10
Marty's great. Another one with Borgnine that's one of my favorite films was Emperor of the North Pole (1973), where he was a hobo-hating train conductor during the Great Depression, cast opposite Lee Marvin as the fearless hobo who dares to jump his train.
Starring Ernest Borgnine. I met him once. He had a house off Mulholland, looking out over the valley. He showed me his Rolls Royce. He was a really likable guy.
The house was used in the Harrison Ford movie Hollywood Homicide, with Harrison's character moonlighting as a real estate agent trying to sell that house.
Ernest Borgnine was one of the few actors who were vocal in their opposition to the "gay Western" Brokeback Mountain back in 2005. He was called a bigot and all sorts of other things by the usual crowd but there was definitely a quiet backlash against the movie, which was heavily favored to win the Best Picture Oscar that year, only for it to be upset on awards night by Crash. Borgnine was joined in his opposition by actor Tony Curtis, also a member of the Academy. They're both gone now, and if you look at the movies being produced and honored by the Oscars voting body of late (LGBT and/or woman-directed claptrap), you can tell the kind of people voting aren't the old boys, who brought some class to the proceedings (recall that the most recent ceremony's most notable moment was Will Smith, collecting his woke-mandated Best Actor Oscar for an unremarkable performance as Venus and Serena's father, bitchslapping Chris Rock).
That's surprising since Tony Curtis played a man who dresses up as a woman in Some Like It Hot.
And a gay sex slave in Spartacus (1960)
I watched the Truman Show. Very interesting movie to watch if you're deep in your own truth journey. And it was pretty entertaining also. And not too long. It's about a guy who's been living unknowingly in a created massive studio, in which an island has been dubbed, with a normal ecosystem of people and life going on, but no one can leave it. At the same time, the show is broadcast on global TV. Truman due to a series of events starts to understand that his entire reality is a lie and he decides to break out. Gives a good indication of the cognitive dissonance many of us here have also gone through, when we found out that everything around us was a theatre, steered and designed for us to be trapped and going in a certain direction.
This is my personal favorite scene in the movie. It sometimes seems like this when "npc" types are talking to you about the latest lies.
Truman show is great. *spoiler* The saddest part is that he trusts his best friend from childhood almost all the way through his journey while his best friends was probably the most emotionally manipulative. Always there when he needs him but for all the wrong reasons. It's what has been the most heartbreaking for me during the last 3 years personally.
Recently watched El Cid (1961) which is a classic film of a Christian knight defending Spain against invasion from Moors. It puts a fire in your belly to see true masculinity on display and a bunch of muslim warlords getting crushed.
I'm watching the Wizard of Oz. Makes me a bit melancholic to see the quaint simplicity of that time. A lot of innocence. If you contrast that juxtaposition with now, it really gives a scary comparison.