The NBA & China Hypocrisy

Dr Mantis Toboggan

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911 said:
The US' bloated three letter agencies state police budget is way bigger than China's, and its military budget is 3 times larger than China's as well, despite the fact that China's standing army is nearly twice as numerous as the US'.

The main reason for that is personnel cost, specifically the fact that the US military has to pay a competitive salary by US standards to get people to volunteer whereas China is an authoritarian state that can conscript people and pay them a pittance, in a much lower cost of living country to boot.
 
I personally love this story, it delivers on multiple levels. The NBA is exposed for what it truly is, an organization that cares more about money than values (no matter how many "NBA cares" commercials they run). It also shows how all its "woke" stars are a bunch of phonies when push comes to shove. Curry can talk tough to Under Armour and Kerr can insult Trump, but both are too scared to criticize communist China.

I almost feel like China came out looking better than the NBA from all this, despite all the despicable freedom-crushing stuff they usually do (although I actually don't have a problem with the muslim "re-education" camps they have, that I do agree with).
 
If Uygher had AR-15s then you would have al Qaeda and ISIS. In fact, al Qaeda and other jihadist groups have expressed support for the Uygher rebel movement.

Of all things you could criticise China for, you're going to get mad at them for putting Muslims in camps and preventing a Chechnya-style Islamic insurgency in their territory? This one is confounding to me.

I've seen China Uncensored before. These guys are affiliated with the Oslo Freedom Forum, which is also attended by Globalists like Garry Kasparov and Mikhail Khodorkovsky. They have a neocon vibe.
 

911

Peacock
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China Uncensored is basically Voice of America's China channel on the net.

China's Xinjiang policies are far too repressive. The major difference between China's Muslims and ours is that they are actually in their home country, and China is the occupier, so it's the other way around vs Western Europe.

They should instead follow Putin's example. Russia is 14% Muslim, but those are Caucasian and Turkic native populations. Putin crushed mercilessly the wahhabi rebelion in Chechnya, but since then he's helped them reconstruct their society on solid grounds, cutting off all ties with Saudi/globalist jihadis. They've fostered a homegrown/organic Muslim culture and heavily relied on Muslim Chechen troops in their Syrian war on ISIS.



Dr Mantis Toboggan said:
911 said:
The US' bloated three letter agencies state police budget is way bigger than China's, and its military budget is 3 times larger than China's as well, despite the fact that China's standing army is nearly twice as numerous as the US'.

The main reason for that is personnel cost, specifically the fact that the US military has to pay a competitive salary by US standards to get people to volunteer whereas China is an authoritarian state that can conscript people and pay them a pittance, in a much lower cost of living country to boot.

The salaries for US conscripts have to be high because most of them don't want to have their legs blown off in endless wars for Israel halfway around the world. Millions like Pat Tillman (who gave up a very lucrative NFL career to join the army after 9/11) would have signed up for room and board if it were to defend their country.
 

Bienvenuto

Pelican
Gold Member
In China a significant percentage of people are employed to go on Social Media and bombard "wrong-thinkers" with corrective arguments.

They are government employees who spend their days telling people that "hey, I drive a taxi for a living and.." "I just came back from farming and.." AND it all suddenly made sense to me.. the CCP is really looking after us... it seems that the Party DOES know best.. etc. etc.

Sometimes there are more government employees posting than actual people.

(Apologies to people on this thread for accidentally suggesting that PRC agents are not 'actual people', I didn't mean it, please do not bombard me with 'spontaneous' outrage and seek to lower my forum-rating back to Pigeon.)

There are many different kinds of posters on the forum.

We are all familiar with the Black-pilled Doomers who dismiss any conduct that cannot be attributed to (((Them)))...

I think we have to brace our-selves for a new kind of forum-posters arriving in waves from Fujian.

Initially they will ingratiate themselves by saying such things as
"Hmm, Reonard seem to make point good-many.."
"Rittle Dark should hab killed many many more White Religious Warriors on Horseback"
"Prease respectfully Exprain who dese mystealious (((people))) are? I whore-heartedree condemn dem but prease exprain who ((they)) are.. Why you laugh?"

It will then move to:
"As I walked back from watering my many Kangaroo dis morning, I realised that you cannot CRITICISE CCP!! You are stupid-face!"
" I was just praying in Christian Church when I thought.. CCP is a benevolent force for good in Africa."
"Loosh! Prease!! Remove Social Credit score of posters who dare to criticise CCP.."
"I was just casual you know .. No-Fap this morning, agree Bastard-Fart that all probrem are caused by Demo-Glaphic Change and .. ((them))??? and Inevitable... Inevitable.. but also other posters who criticise China - Fuuuuck You!!! You Die! We kill you all!!!"


Just a heads up.
 

Douglas Quaid

Kingfisher
It seems like Kerr has been injected with Bay Area soy too much. He's one of them now, or maybe he was always like this.

As I get older. I'm realizing how much time and money is wasted watching sports. At least the NHL is much better.
 

joseph15

Sparrow
TigOlBitties said:
It seems like Kerr has been injected with Bay Area soy too much. He's one of them now, or maybe he was always like this.

As I get older. I'm realizing how much time and money is wasted watching sports. At least the NHL is much better.


yeah. I don't know what happened to this guy. I used to enjoy listening to him talk years ago when he was just a broadcaster, but now he's probably the guy I dislike the most in the entire league; he just comes off as such a weasel these days.
 
Bienvenuto said:
In China a significant percentage of people are employed to go on Social Media and bombard "wrong-thinkers" with corrective arguments.

They are government employees who spend their days telling people that "hey, I drive a taxi for a living and.." "I just came back from farming and.." AND it all suddenly made sense to me.. the CCP is really looking after us... it seems that the Party DOES know best.. etc. etc.

Sometimes there are more government employees posting than actual people.

(Apologies to people on this thread for accidentally suggesting that PRC agents are not 'actual people', I didn't mean it, please do not bombard me with 'spontaneous' outrage and seek to lower my forum-rating back to Pigeon.)

There are many different kinds of posters on the forum.

We are all familiar with the Black-pilled Doomers who dismiss any conduct that cannot be attributed to (((Them)))...

I think we have to brace our-selves for a new kind of forum-posters arriving in waves from Fujian.

Initially they will ingratiate themselves by saying such things as
"Hmm, Reonard seem to make point good-many.."
"Rittle Dark should hab killed many many more White Religious Warriors on Horseback"
"Prease respectfully Exprain who dese mystealious (((people))) are? I whore-heartedree condemn dem but prease exprain who ((they)) are.. Why you laugh?"

It will then move to:
"As I walked back from watering my many Kangaroo dis morning, I realised that you cannot CRITICISE CCP!! You are stupid-face!"
" I was just praying in Christian Church when I thought.. CCP is a benevolent force for good in Africa."
"Loosh! Prease!! Remove Social Credit score of posters who dare to criticise CCP.."
"I was just casual you know .. No-Fap this morning, agree Bastard-Fart that all probrem are caused by Demo-Glaphic Change and .. ((them))??? and Inevitable... Inevitable.. but also other posters who criticise China - Fuuuuck You!!! You Die! We kill you all!!!"


Just a heads up.

Umm ... Hello, cringe department?

None of that is not an argument. I said nothing wrong. The fact is, the "China threat" is a massively overhyped distraction for Boomers, the right wing equivalent of the Left's obsession with Russia.
 

Bienvenuto

Pelican
Gold Member
Knight of Malta said:
Umm ... Hello, cringe department?

None of that is not an argument. I said nothing wrong. The fact is, the "China threat" is a massively overhyped distraction for Boomers, the right wing equivalent of the Left's obsession with Russia.

I didn't mention you did I?
These fuckers will be coming from Fujian, in waves..

We disagree.

I think thats allowed.

Personally I see the China threat as the big threat, not just in the coming years, but now.
All my dealings with Chinese government (as just one Brit, not a rich businessman), in Africa, in SE Asia, they have underlined, in their own words to me.. 'you foreigner, Chinese government does not have to answer for how it deals with foreigner'.
You should see the way they pamper my western banker friends.
Should see the way they treat the Africans.
 

911

Peacock
Catholic
Gold Member
I'd cut Kerr some slack, his father Malcolm, who was the Dean of the American University in Beirut, Lebanon was assassinated by the deep state, per Kay Griggs, whose special ops Marine colonel husband was privy to that operation.



Kerr was a great player at Arizona, I saw him play in person, and met him briefly in CA before the Warriors blew up. Great man, great family.

Kay Griggs' 8 hour interview is one of the most insightful interviews on YT:

 

doc holliday

Pelican
Buddhist / Eastern
Gold Member
Why does Steve Kerr deserve any little bit of slack, because he played at Arizona State and you like him? The guy typifies the modern day white liberal SJW douchebag. Constantly talks all tough about how awful and oppressive this country, this country where he and his fellow basketballers have made millions of dollars but then totally pussies out like the coward he is when asked to give his thoughts about China, says it's complicated and can't properly address it because he knows nothing about China. The guy is a fucking hypocrite of biblical proportions and he deserves all of the ridicule and some that he is receiving. Here he is in all his glory, stepping all over himself to explain why China doesn't deserve the same scorn he shows the USA.




Fucking asshole, Steve Kerr..
 

the high

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I think the Chinese is one of those things that many people will only in hindsight, realize how dangerous they truly are. They're like the pinko scare from the 50's dialed to 100, with a West that is way more compromised, divided and neutered than they were then.

Reminds of the story about the town that was overrun by mice.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Bienvenuto said:
Leonard D Neubache said:
The post above is on point.

Sane Westerners no longer have a dog in this fight as such. We are just collateral damage. Sure as hell I'm not putting myself between a Chinese bullet and a globohomo elite. Sure as hell the globohomo elite want me just as dead or silenced as the Chinese. Maybe more so.

They can have each other and maybe the rest of us can take a crack at whichever crippled party survives the fray.

The problem is that it doesn't work that way.

I knew people who were around in the early 40's when the Japanese over-ran the British Empire in Asia.

They talked of the Japanese decorating every Road junction in Singapore with Chinese heads whilst they only starved, tortured and beat the British and other races.

Those wonderful Sikhs happily turned on their British employers and beat and tortured them as much as the Japanese would let them.

In those discussions I would start remarking on how cruelly the Japs had treated them, how terribly the Chinese had suffered and how the likes of the Malays and others were to be treated with caution.

they would shrug and say "yeah, but you have to watch the Chinese.. the Chinese are worse than any of them put together. They don't even think of us as human beings. Everything the Japs did to us, did to others, they learnt from the Chinese."

From Sierra Leone to Cambodia I have heard first hand from people who say they and their people are being crushed by the Chinese with a disdain they haven't seen from just-as-greedy Western or Slavic or Lebanese/Israeli 'oppressors'.

In the Northern Beaches in Sydney I hear from rich Bankers who tell me that everything they do is for China effectively.
How they went to Google and Napster and Apple and sold Australian financial products to American corporations based on Chinese initiated moves in the Australian economy
and based on new Chinese migration patterns which would lead to "population-growth as economic growth" as a way of boosting shares.

The elites are selling you and I out to the Chinese.

The Chinese in China, hell.. even Tibet and Xinjiang, I don't give a shit.
They can do what they want.
But they are steadily advancing and what they are doing would be viewed as alarming if the ((Media)) reported it accurately,
or even reported on it at all.

^Unfortunately they're like the traitor in the 'Matrix' movie, just asking that the Steak remains tasty while he sells out his compadres and the world burns.

Its not a case of Chinese Greed vs ((Greed)).

Its a case of Greed/((Greed)) combining and conspiring against you and I.

And if this isn't held to account our children and grand-children will feel what its like when everything truly has been sold and gutted..

so that they have nothing to protect themselves with when the Great Expansion truly begins.

So they're both assholes and maybe they'll fight and maybe they wont and maybe the little guy will suffer and maybe he wont (location and current life$tyle dependent to some extent).

I've been out here in the sticks with my guns and my grub waiting for the common man to grow a sense of awareness and some balls for near a decade now. If that's not in their wheelhouse then fuck them all. What do you want to do about it, anyway? Drag them by the ear to fight their own (((elites))) AND the Chinese?

The reality is it doesn't really matter how this may or may not play out. Unless you have a viable plan to get the masses to grow a spine then all you can do is get right with God and get out of the way of the four horsemen as best as possible.

You want a hard reality check? Even if you could take these degenerate slugs making up the bulk of modern society, put them in a time machine and show them the bleak, dystopian future that awaits them, when they got back they wouldn't change their lives at all. They would treat it like a scary documentary they'd just watched and quickly forget all about it.

Get out of the blue hives or out of the soon-to-be affected nations altogether. If your plan revolves around HOPING that the normies will finally sniff the wind then your head is going to end up on a pike with the rest, regardless of how wise you were to what was coming down the line.

We have infinite data about the past and the future at our fingertips and most of these slobs would rather watch sportsball, LBGT shows or porn.

You and I can ruminate about whether homicidal Chinese would be worse rulers than homicidal Jews but it wont change the outcome one single iota. The best course of action remains unchanged, though. Distance and diverse currency.
 

Bienvenuto

Pelican
Gold Member
Leonard D Neubache said:
We're Doomed.

Everybody is cucked. There is nothing we can do.

Modern Man has no spine.

Turn to God. We are Doomed.

Do not discuss these things unless you are willing to say..

Doomed. Cucked. Their Fault: the Cucks and ((Them)). Get the Hell out of there.

Options?
Turn to God.
Move to Tasmania, Samoa, Wyoming, or yet to be disclosed location.
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Its a rough try but..

Did I paraphrase you correctly?
 

Sosa

Kingfisher
"The United States faces a major, major strategic vulnerability in its satellites......... The Chinese could cripple the United States ..."

I was never aware of this - can anyone intelligently expound on this? If true then the USA is screwed and I don't see how you could combat such an attack.

 

CaptainChardonnay

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Gold Member


911, if you have any evidence of China Uncensored being funded by the US Government then please present it. I like the guy's content and think he is organic so if there is any reason to believe he isn't then I would appreciate it. He also has an America Uncovered channel.
 

CaptainChardonnay

Ostrich
Gold Member
Sosa said:
"The United States faces a major, major strategic vulnerability in its satellites......... The Chinese could cripple the United States ..."

I was never aware of this - can anyone intelligently expound on this? If true then the USA is screwed and I don't see how you could combat such an attack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Chinese_anti-satellite_missile_test

2007 Chinese anti-satellite missile test

On January 11, 2007, China conducted an anti-satellite missile test. A Chinese weather satellite—the FY-1C polar orbit satellite of the Fengyun series, at an altitude of 865 kilometres (537 mi), with a mass of 750 kg[1]—was destroyed by a kinetic kill vehicle traveling with a speed of 8 km/s in the opposite direction[2] (see Head-on engagement). It was launched with a multistage solid-fuel missile from Xichang Satellite Launch Center or nearby.

Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine first reported the test on January 17.[3] The report was confirmed on January 18, 2007 by a United States National Security Council (NSC) spokesperson.[4] At first the Chinese government did not publicly confirm whether or not the test had occurred; but on January 23, 2007, the Chinese Foreign Ministry officially confirmed that a test had been conducted.[5] China claims it formally notified the U.S., Japan and other countries about the test in advance.[6]

It was the first known successful satellite intercept test since 1985, when the United States conducted a similar anti-satellite missile test using an ASM-135 ASAT to destroy the P78-1 satellite.[7]

The New York Times,[8] Washington Times[9] and Jane's Intelligence Review[10] reported that this came on the back of at least two previous direct ascent tests that intentionally did not result in an intercept, on July 7, 2005 and February 6, 2006.[11]

A classified U.S. State Department cable revealed by WikiLeaks indicates that the same system was tested against a ballistic target in January 2010[12] in what the Chinese government publicly described as a test of "ground-based midcourse missile interception technology".[13] That description also closely matches the Chinese government's description of another test in January 2013,[14] which has led some analysts to conclude that it was yet another test of the same ASAT system, again against a ballistic target and not a satellite.[15]

Why do you think Trump is creating a Space Force?
 

budoslavic

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Orthodox
Gold Member
Bienvenuto said:
Knight of Malta said:

I didn't mention you did I?
These fuckers will be coming from Fujian, in waves..

We disagree.

I think thats allowed.

Personally I see the China threat as the big threat, not just in the coming years, but now.
...

I also see China as a big threat as well. Why should we trust the Communist Party of China government? Whatever comes out of their mouth, they are full of shit.

For example, China's illegal island-expansion projects in the South China Sea.

In 2015, BBC News crew were checking out China's secret islands building project.


They returned for a follow up in 2019. A lot has changed in four years.


Some interesting before and after images from underwater reef to an island.


Another example is the Greenland's project that China was keenly interested in where they would like to build three airports.

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How the Pentagon Countered China’s Designs on Greenland

Washington urged Denmark to finance airports that Chinese aimed to build on North America’s doorstep

By Drew Hinshaw and Jeremy Page | Feb. 10, 2019 10:24 am ET

NUUK, Greenland––The Pentagon raised an alarm last year over what it deemed a troubling development in this ice-cloaked territory: China was looking to bankroll and build three airports that could give it a military foothold off Canada’s coast.

Greenland’s prime minister had flown to Beijing in 2017 and asked Chinese state-run banks to finance the new commercial airports, including a big one for one of the smallest capitals on earth, Nuuk, which can now be served only by propeller planes. The bankers were interested, people at the meetings said, so long as a Chinese company constructed the airports.

When word of the incipient offer reached then-U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis early last year, he called on Denmark—whose kingdom includes Greenland as a self-governing territory but whose government had been reluctant to fund the airports.

Beijing must not be allowed to militarize this stretch of the Arctic, Mr. Mattis told his Danish counterpart Claus Frederiksen at a meeting in Washington in May, according to officials close to the discussion.

For years, the U.S. and Europe had generally been spectators to a global Chinese building spree. To forge new global trade and infrastructure links, Chinese banks have been financing hundreds of projects, mostly built by Chinese companies, including roads, railways, pipelines and power plants.

Western governments have been less willing to lend taxpayers’ money for risky infrastructure in distant lands. But that reluctance is ebbing as the geopolitical fallout emerges from the financial difficulties several countries face from Chinese infrastructure loans.

In one notable case, Sri Lanka, unable to service a Chinese loan, granted a Chinese company a 99-year lease on a port close to key Indian Ocean shipping lanes.

Alarmed, the U.S. is joining with allies to offer alternative sources of infrastructure financing. The sums involved are still dwarfed by China’s plans, but in July, the U.S., Japan and Australia announced a partnership to invest in infrastructure in the Indo-Pacific region. The European Union unveiled similar plans in October.

Pentagon officials expressed worry that Greenland’s aid-dependent government could struggle to repay a loan for the $555 million project, and after a few missed payments, China’s government could take control of runways that could potentially be used by warplanes on an island where the U.S. has a missile-tracking air force base. A presence in Greenland could also help China access new shipping lanes and resources under the Arctic’s retreating ice.

Months later, after the airports question precipitated a collapse of this polar island’s government and serial visits by U.S. and Danish officials, Greenland announced that its new capital airport would be built with loans backed by the Danish government, as would another 400 miles up the coast. Greenland will finance the third facility, and no role for China is foreseen.

In an unusual step, the U.S. Defense Department has offered to chip in with airport infrastructure that would help both civilian and military or surveillance planes land on the country’s coast.

Greenlandic officials say they hope the airports will open up one of the world’s most inaccessible places, allowing in affordable flights bearing tourists, repatriates and immigrants.

U.S. officials see the episode as demonstrating one model for countering China’s global ambitions: calling on old allies to engage in places where Beijing’s ascent is challenging American power.

“When you have an issue like this arise, you see the strength of those alliance relationships,” a senior Defense Department official said.

The Chinese foreign ministry didn’t respond to requests for comment on the airport project but in a statement said China had good relations with Greenland and Denmark, adding that it encouraged Chinese companies to help Arctic development.

A former colony of Denmark, which granted it limited self-rule in 2009, Greenland doesn’t have roads between its cities. Residents move around using a network of domestic airstrips and helipads that stretches back to World War II.

Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen repeatedly turned down requests to lend money for international airports on the island, Greenlandic officials say. After last year’s meeting between Mr. Mattis and Denmark’s defense minister, however, Mr. Rasmussen’s government rapidly pulled together a funding package that Greenlanders found surprisingly favorable.

“He was not into it at all—until the Chinese showed interest,” said Aleqa Hammon, Greenland’s former prime minister, speaking of Mr. Rasmussen.

Mr. Rasmussen’s office declined to comment.

Copenhagen’s volte-face is a measure of how China’s economic and military rise is intensifying international competition over the Arctic, especially Greenland, whose tiny government is slowly moving toward independence from Denmark.

China declared itself a “near-Arctic state” last year, outlining plans to carve new shipping routes through the region’s melting ice and exploit the natural resources underneath.

Greenland is key to China’s strategy, which it calls the “Polar Silk Road.”

“China needs to carefully consider the possibility that a small and weak Greenlandic nation could emerge in the Arctic in the next 10 years,” wrote Xiao Yang, director of the Arctic Research Center at Beijing International Studies University, in a recent paper. “This will be the key node for the successful implementation of the Polar Silk Road.”

In 2016, a Chinese government-owned company tried to buy an abandoned naval base in Greenland; Denmark sent four sailors to live there and shoo away Chinese interest. Chinese firms hold a stake in uranium and rare-earth mines on the island, and a state-owned university recently announced it would build a polar research antenna here.

The airport contest kicked off with a series of meetings in Beijing in November 2017 between Greenland’s government and Chinese banks. Denmark, eager to appear supportive of Greenlandic sovereignty, had helped arrange the meetings, including with China Development Bank and the Export Import Bank of China.

The banks seemed to know little about Greenland, said Johannus Egholm Hansen, board chairman of Greenland’s state-owned Kalaallit Airports company, who attended those meetings. “It was early days,” he said. The banks didn’t respond to requests for comment.

After Kalaallit Airports short-listed a Chinese construction firm to build the new airports, Denmark conveyed its alarm to the Pentagon. After Mr. Mattis got involved, Denmark’s government asked a consortium led by Danske Bank to help assemble an alternative financing package.

Officials in Greenland were pleasantly surprised by the terms. “Even Chinese funding is not as cheap as this,” Mr. Hansen said.

Denmark undertook to buy equity and guarantee loans at a roughly 1% interest rate. Greenland’s government expected to spend up to quadruple that in borrowing costs. The savings will cut $130 from the price of a round-trip ticket from Europe to one of the world’s most unreachable islands, flag carrier Air Greenland estimates.


“This is an investment in national security, an investment to make sure we can stay on a good foot with the United States,“ said retired Adm. Nils Wang, a former head of the Danish navy and an expert on Arctic security affairs.

Not everyone in Greenland has been pleased about the reassertion of Western power in the Arctic. As the terms of the new deal emerged in September, the government of Prime Minister Kim Kielsen collapsed and Parliament launched into months of arguments. Pacifists expressed their continued mistrust of the U.S. military, which once secretly started construction on a nuclear-missile base here. Many lawmakers said they disliked the influence Denmark would gain over the new airports, and a pilot in the legislature quarreled over the technical specifications of the runways.

Finally, in November, exhausted lawmakers approved the project.

“It’s basically going to make Greenland part of the globalized world,” said Air Greenland CEO Jacob Sorensen, “instead of being this isolated island up in the middle of the North Atlantic.”

Knight of Malta said:
Umm ... Hello, cringe department?

None of that is not an argument. I said nothing wrong. The fact is, the "China threat" is a massively overhyped distraction for Boomers, the right wing equivalent of the Left's obsession with Russia.

Yeah, okay...sure...whatever you say. :dodgy:

chinacom15.jpg
 

PharaohRa

Kingfisher
1) Who cares about the NBA, it is nothing more than a bunch of tatted up, thugged out degenerates making millions for the billionaire team (((owners)))
2) As for China, they can do what the hell they want, but they are still the Jews of Asia and not to be trusted
 
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