The new cold war with China

Beaker

Sparrow
They are not one big monolithic group that always acts in tandem with each other, as some try to portray them.
Yes this is true, Jews are no different than Protestants, they are revolutionaries but they act according to where they live and it's not a conspiracy, it's just who they are.

What lead me to this conclusion is reading Jung's 'Answer to Job' where he basically outs Protestants for being incomplete and irrational in their beliefs, and this leads them to act like revolutionaries. Judaism is the same.

“Not only did it develop, at the outset, from an encounter with the worldly spirit of the times, but it continues this dialectic with the spiritual currents of every age; for the pneuma, in keeping with its original wind nature, is flexible, ever in living motion, comparable now to water, now to fire. It can desert its original haunts, can even go astray and get lost, if it succumbs too much to the spirit of the age.

In order to fulfill its task, the Protestant spirit must be full of unrest and occasionally troublesome; it must even be revolutionary, so as to make sure that tradition has an influence on the change of contemporary values. The shocks it sustains during this encounter modify and at the same time enliven the tradition, which in its slow progress through the centuries would, without these disturbances, finally arrive at complete petrifaction and thus lose its effect.”
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Who is the Chinese guy?

Woman in the mirror looks to be the Chinese virologist who has published several papers with evidence that the virus was created in a lab. She's been on Tucker a few times, immediately after her first appearance her Twitter account was locked despite having posted something like 3 times total and nothing recently.
 

SlickyBoy

Ostrich
I do not buy into the "Israel/Jews rule the world through America" spiel. Yes, there are many Jews in the media, banking, academia, science, etc.,. but I do not begrudge them their successes as an intelligent, educated and hardworking people. The only total control by the American Jewish community is in Hollywood and the porn industry. And notice how many American Jews strongly disagree with Israeli Jews about the treatment of the Palestinians. They are not one big monolithic group that always acts in tandem with each other, as some try to portray them.
The boomer perspective in this post is insufferable. If Israel was such a great ally, they would be part of Five Eyes. They are not and they never will be, even with their level of influence in our government. And yes, that influence is real.

When was the last time you heard a congressman or senator from either political party say one negative word about Israel? When was the last time they publicly went against giving them any money - to include the now 4 billion a year they get from us? They control they have over congress is complete. Even for congressmen with no jews in their district, if they don't play along with the more powerful members from states that do, their careers will be dramatically shorter.

It isn't just congress - ever wonder why you don't hear jack about the intelligence community going after Antifa, yet they seem preoccupied with imaginary armies of Nazis under our beds? Well guess what - there's reason for that. The ADL is a corrupt political wing of the Israeli interests yet they get to pick the priorities for "domestic terrorism" https://www.adl.org/news/press-rele...y-grants-to-counter-terrorist-recruitment-and

What happens when one of them doesn't give enough attention to the shibboleth of rampant growth of white supremacist groups everywhere? They get brought back into line quickly if they know what's good for their careers. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-detention-idUSKCN26E2J6

Take off the blinders, old fellow - Israel owns congress as well as the intelligence communities, via their agents like AIPAC and the ADL. That you don't "buy into" it only means you've not taken the time to see the facts and at your age you are probably too invested in your opinions to bother looking, but I hope not.

If Israel truly ruled America, we would have gone to war with Iran years ago!
Yeah, about that - watch this space. Donald Trump has been pretty good holding that off, but the deal he struck with three rich Jews - Bernie Marcus, Sheldon Adelson and Paul Singer was that he would go to war with Iran in exchange for their support. I really hope Trump continues to keep us out fo that mess, but I suspect there will be some strike against Iran now that Saudi Arabia and the UAE have come to the bargaining table with Israel. The Saudis in particular would like nothing more than to wipe out Iran, albeit for different reasons than their supposed nuclear threat.

Israel has nukes and are much more likely to use them - great, now wait, who's the real threat of war again-? And who gets to clean up that radioactive shit sandwich once they "independently" act? That's right, Uncle Sucker, as usual.

You aren't seeing the forest through the trees with Dershowitz. With respect to Jews in America, the left coast Jews are more Marxist and libertine - porno, Hollywood filth, etc. while the NYC Jews are more zionist. Yet you must realize their hatred of Christ from both groups cannot be understated as the root behind why they behave the way that they do. E Michael Jones details this in his many works. If you don't like big books, you should watch a few interviews with him.

With respect to China, there is nothing "brewing" there that we are obligated to assist in brewing. But one thing China has going for them is they've been playing the game a lot longer than the rest of us - even the Jews. They also lack the 2000 year struggle the west has suffered since the foot of the cross and have zero post-WW2 guilt trips to slow them down. The Israelis are clever, but they are amateurs when it comes to the long game.

Once Israel gets done feeding off the carcass of America, they'll have no place to go and China will still be standing - with no interest in propping up Israeli interests.
 
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The boomer perspective in this post is insufferable. If Israel was such a great ally, they would be part of Five Eyes. They are not and they never will be, even with their level of influence in our government. And yes, that influence is real.

When was the last time you heard a congressman or senator from either political party say one negative word about Israel? When was the last time they publicly went against giving them any money - to include the now 4 billion a year they get from us? They control they have over congress is complete. Even for congressmen with no jews in their district, if they don't play along with the more powerful members from states that do, their careers will be dramatically shorter.

It isn't just congress - ever wonder why you don't hear jack about the intelligence community going after Antifa, yet they seem preoccupied with imaginary armies of Nazis under our beds? Well guess what - there's reason for that. The ADL is a corrupt political wing of the Israeli interests yet they get to pick the priorities for "domestic terrorism" https://www.adl.org/news/press-rele...y-grants-to-counter-terrorist-recruitment-and

What happens when one of them doesn't give enough attention to the shibboleth of rampant growth of white supremacist groups everywhere? They get brought back into line quickly if they know what's good for their careers. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-detention-idUSKCN26E2J6

Take off the blinders, old fellow - Israel owns congress as well as the intelligence communities, via their agents like AIPAC and the ADL. That you don't "buy into" it only means you've not taken the time to see the facts and at your age you are probably too invested in your opinions to bother looking, but I hope not.

Yeah, about that - watch this space. Donald Trump has been pretty good holding that off, but the deal he struck with three rich Jews - Bernie Marcus, Sheldon Adelson and Paul Singer was that he would go to war with Iran in exchange for their support. I really hope Trump continues to keep us out fo that mess, but I suspect there will be some strike against Iran now that Saudi Arabia and the UAE have come to the bargaining table with Israel. The Saudis in particular would like nothing more than to wipe out Iran, albeit for different reasons than their supposed nuclear threat.

Israel has nukes and are much more likely to use them - great, now wait, who's the real threat of war again-? And who gets to clean up that radioactive shit sandwich once they "independently" act? That's right, Uncle Sucker, as usual.

You aren't seeing the forest through the trees with Dershowitz. With respect to Jews in America, the left coast Jews are more Marxist and libertine - porno, Hollywood filth, etc. while the NYC Jews are more zionist. Yet you must realize their hatred of Christ from both groups cannot be understated as the root behind why they behave the way that they do. E Michael Jones details this in his many works. If you don't like big books, you should watch a few interviews with him.

With respect to China, there is nothing "brewing" there that we are obligated to assist in brewing. But one thing China has going for them is they've been playing the game a lot longer than the rest of us - even the Jews. They also lack the 2000 year struggle the west has suffered since the foot of the cross and have zero post-WW2 guilt trips to slow them down. The Israelis are clever, but they are amateurs when it comes to the long game.

Once Israel gets done feeding off the carcass of America, they'll have no place to go and China will still be standing - with no interest in propping up Israeli interests.
And so they are not a part of Five Eyes, and yet they have total power over us? Hmmm......

Yes, Israel does have a great deal of influence over our elected officials. They know how to play the American politics game, and now China is looking to copy their playbook as much as they can, to gain control and influence without firing a bullet in anger. American Evangelicals adore Israel, and help to magnify their influence in America. But Israeli power over us is not absolute.

I do not agree with giving Israel four billion a year in foreign aid. They have a strong modern economy and would be fine without it. The money is more of a bribe to help motivate them to be actively on our side. But then so much foreign aid is really just bribe money. And yes, Israel has an active espionage program in the U.S., to steal secrets we choose to not give them (nuclear weapons tech). But then American and European intelligence agencies spy on each other, too.

Domestic white supremacist terrorists are a real thing, but also make for a good boogie man figure. And things have gotten so ridiculous that even red pill men's groups get somewhat labeled as a security threat.

Hatred of Christ? Actually, traditional Jewish values are in many ways very close to classic Christian values. All the great religions of the world have surprisingly similar basic tenets. And as for Jewish elites in Hollywood, porn or banking, well, if they all magically disappeared, they would be quickly replaced by Gentiles who would push the same basic agendas for the pursuit of the almighty dollar.

And again, if Israel really owned us, a war with Iran would have already happened. But yes, Israeli influence is very strong. I find it strange that people can be Holocaust deniers, because the Holocaust greatly helps to explain the motivations, fears and anger of modern Israel. They are a tiny strip of land surrounded by enemies. And if nukes were smuggled into their major cities and detonated, and then their neighbors invaded, their population could wind up being literally pushed into the sea. They can't afford to lose a major war, not even one. This leads to extremes and paranoia. And as I already said, the two boomer subs Israel possesses, are their doomsday revenge weapons should the Arabs get lucky.

As for China, you are right that they are free of the guilt which plagues the western world. Even if the CCP really mellows out, I don't see them becoming like the U.S. or Europe, in that regard. I remember going to an Orville Schell lecture (a prominent scholar on China) and he said there are definite advantages to their top down style of government, in terms of getting things done. Big things... I see this especially in terms of their great focus on scientific research. America is ADD by comparison, in many ways, due to our election cycles and a congress vulnerable to lobbyist influence.

Israel has made a definite long-term effort to be China's friend. It will be a different sort of relationship than what they have with America, but it will be critical to Israel, as China grows stronger and stronger over the coming century and beyond. I think China respects the scrappy little country, and sees how they can be useful to their interests.

America is obligated to Taiwan, and if we fail them then what will happen is that our friends and allies in the region will no longer trust us to help protect them from CCP aggression. And it will cause a domino effect of loss of confidence, and our alliances, both economic and military will fall apart. Even if we lose a war against China, in their own backyard, and Taiwan is conquered, at least our allies will see that we put our blood and treasure on the line for an imperiled ally. That will be so much better than simply walking away cowardly from an old friend in the region. It is the classic case of the big schoolyard bully viciously picking on the little guy, and a large friend deciding this has to be stopped.
 
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Corporations Must Do Their Part to Preserve Democracy

"China does whatever it can to thrive economically, putting freedom and prosperity at risk for the rest of the world."


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"Recent developments in China are particularly disturbing. Since President Xi Jinping took control in 2012, the Chinese Communist Party has pursued policies and actions that undermine many foreign firms in so-called “strategic” industries. One example: After DuPont abandoned its joint venture with Zhangjiagang Glory Chemical Industry Company in 2013 because executives suspected that their former Chinese partner might be stealing DuPont’s intellectual property, the company became subject to antitrust action for its unwillingness to license its technology to a local firm.

The Chinese Communist Party has the ability to build the technological prowess to coerce and conquer competitors, and it does whatever necessary to win commercially, including undermining democracy when it stands in the way. This is true as it relates to the industries of the future — 5G, artificial intelligence, biotech — and to those of the present, including semiconductors and photovoltaic cells."

 

SlickyBoy

Ostrich
And so they are not a part of Five Eyes, and yet they have total power over us? Hmmm......
Again, missing the point - while Israel would like to be part of Five Eyes, they don't need that to control congress. All that part takes is money and blackmail if any politicians steps out of line.

So that's a "No" on the "Have you ever heard a politician speak out against Israel?" question?

Crickets....

The money is more of a bribe to help motivate them to be actively on our side. But then so much foreign aid is really just bribe money. And yes, Israel has an active espionage program in the U.S., to steal secrets we choose to not give them (nuclear weapons tech). But then American and European intelligence agencies spy on each other, too.
WTF? If you believe the first sentence of that, you are worse off than I thought and probably a CPAC attendee.

But let's pretend for a bit - what, exactly, would the US gain from bribing Israel? "Please, take four billion a year from us so we can still have you as a reliable antagonist to all the Muslim nations surrounding you! We just don't have enough terrorism and airport security threats as it is!"

As you correctly pointed out, labelling red pill groups as domestic threats is utterly ridiculous but illustrative of what's being done to reinforce the white supremacy uprising myth that Israeli interests at the ADL and the SPLC wish to support.

And we supposedly bribe these people into doing what for us, again? Your last sentence is pathetic rationalization. The Israelis didn't just steal and continue to steal information, they stole the actual material to make the nuclear bombs. And Iran is supposed to be the bad guy for wanting the same thing, now that they have nukes pointed at them?


Hatred of Christ? Actually, traditional Jewish values are in many ways very close to classic Christian values. All the great religions of the world have surprisingly similar basic tenets. And as for Jewish elites in Hollywood, porn or banking, well, if they all magically disappeared, they would be quickly replaced by Gentiles who would push the same basic agendas for the pursuit of the almighty dollar.
You really are out of tune, culturally. That "Judeo Christian" nonsense you parrot was a theme created in the 1950s and has no basis in theological or cultural reality. It's yet another talking point to prop up zionist lies.

And yes, there is a genuine hatred of Christ at the heart of their anti-logos behavior. It's been that way for a while, and every now and then, the mask slips.http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38
...Jewish involvement in porn, by this argument, is the result of an atavistic hatred of Christian authority: they are trying to weaken the dominant culture in America by moral subversion. Astyr remembers having ‘to run or fight for it in grammar school because I was a Jew. It could very well be that part of my porn career is an “up yours” to these people’. Al Goldstein, the publisher of Screw, said (on lukeford.net), ‘The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism.’ Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream (and is no doubt consumed by those very same WASPs), its subversive character becomes more charged. Porn is no longer of the ‘what the Butler saw’ voyeuristic type; instead, it is driven to new extremes of portrayal that stretch the boundaries of the porn aesthetic. As new sexual positions are portrayed, the desire to shock (as well as entertain) seems clear.
The gentiles would move in now that they've been trained into behaving more or less like reform Jews. It wasn't always this way.
 

Arado

Pelican
Gold Member
Lots of discussion among the think tank crowd on whether the U.S. should explicitly state that they will defend Taiwan if attacked by China. Complex issue that doesn't fall neatly into the America First/Neocon dichotomy since letting Taiwan fall will lead to end of the dollar hegemony and we would have to dismantle our welfare state and take drastic cut in standard of living, plus various other reasons mentioned in this thread why increasing Chinese dominance in the world is against U.S. interests, even from a purely nationalist anti military industrial complex perspective.

 
dismantle our welfare state and take drastic cut in standard of living, plus various
Would gladly give up my twice yearly international holidays and a few other luxuries to stop my country turning into little India/Sudan
I for one am glad that China is bitting the globalists in the ass. They sold Australia in 1972 by singing the Lima declaration.

The globalists thought they could get another 1.3 billion consumers by turning them into western liberals. China had its own plans.

Western corporations are so desperate for sales boosts that they are destroying their own countries to get it. China is playing the long game
 

kosko

Peacock
Gold Member
Would gladly give up my twice yearly international holidays and a few other luxuries to stop my country turning into little India/Sudan
I for one am glad that China is bitting the globalists in the ass. They sold Australia in 1972 by singing the Lima declaration.

The globalists thought they could get another 1.3 billion consumers by turning them into western liberals. China had its own plans.

Western corporations are so desperate for sales boosts that they are destroying their own countries to get it. China is playing the long game
Sorry to burst your bubble but China is 100% on board with globalism. They are just the favorite child so you assume thier rebellious nature is a signal of thier independence.
 

Arado

Pelican
Gold Member
Would gladly give up my twice yearly international holidays and a few other luxuries to stop my country turning into little India/Sudan
I for one am glad that China is bitting the globalists in the ass. They sold Australia in 1972 by singing the Lima declaration.

The globalists thought they could get another 1.3 billion consumers by turning them into western liberals. China had its own plans.

Western corporations are so desperate for sales boosts that they are destroying their own countries to get it. China is playing the long game
But yet it's the nationalists like Tucker and Bannon that have been most critical of China while Joe Biden, Goldman Sachs, and Lebron James and other globalists-SJWs have been quite pro-China. Doesn't add up if you think a Chinese dominated world would be better.
 
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