The new cold war with China

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Uyghurs are muslim mongols who already are much better off than all the other mongols and muslims in central Asia by virtue of being in what will be the richest, most advanced society in the world. Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang, is a key hub in China's Belt and Road project, the recipient of huge infrastructure projects and heavy financing. Uyghurs stand to become the richest Mongols since Kublai Khan if they stomp their jihadis and play their cards rights.

Uyghurs are the only muslim people that isn't occupied, heavily embargoed or bombed by the US/Globohomo empire, think about this. I don't think they know how lucky they really are...

Urimqi today:

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Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Oh no, not Taiwan! Please, anything but Taiwan!


This leaves out the fact that CCP standing policy is that a formal declaration of independence by Taiwan would be considered pretext for an invasion. They're happy temporarily to "agree to disagree" and consider Taiwan a rogue province but an actual declaration of independence would lead to war. That's why the ROC government maintains the a pretext of continuing to claim all of China as their own--doing so is actually appeasing the PRC. It's also why the rest of the world maintains the one China fiction despite the fact that Taiwan is obviously a de facto independent country. The vast majority of Taiwanese, especially those under about 50, do not consider themselves Chinese except in an ethnic sense.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
^To those Taiwanese, China is like the pushy, preachy uncle who used to be on welfare but is now a bigshot . Their elite will not want to be cut out from his fortune.

China really screwed up in Eastern Europe...


Falun Gong news outlets like this guy (Chris Chappell) or the Epoch Times are a good source of news for domestic US politics, they generally are pro-Trump and anti-Uniparty, but they're low-grade propaganda when it comes to China.

China has had a great year in terms of trade breakthroughs and foreign policy, they've inked the RCEP in the Asia zone and closed a major deal with the EU, the CAD (Comprehensive Agreement on Investment), which cements their position as the EU's leading trade partner:


This is a better rundown of the situation between the EU and CHina:

Chinese foreign direct investment (FDI) into the EU has increased exponentially over the last few years, primarily directed to the strategic areas of infrastructure and high technology. According to European Commission data, cumulative flows of Chinese FDI into the EU amounted to almost 120 billion euros. However, EU investment into China was even higher, at more than 140 billion euros. About half of EU FDI in China is in the manufacturing sector, with the German automotive industry as the main investor.

Germany also held the rotating presidency of the EU in the second half of 2020. Merkel had made it a priority to conclude the deal by the end of the German presidency. She was instrumental in persuading the other EU leaders to accept a deal that was so beneficial for German industry. German senior officials within the European Commission drove the negotiations to a successful conclusion. On the Chinese side, Xi unusually stepped in personally and made concessions to clinch the deal. For the EU, this was an opportunity to display its “strategic autonomy” in foreign relations before the new U.S. administration set in. For China, it was a way to drive a wedge between the EU and the United States.


Basically China's market is too big for players like Germany to ignore, it is for example already the world's biggest auto market by a solid margin (24 million vs 17 million for the #2 US market), with still a lot of upside, whereas the US and European markets are about to get Klaus Schwabbed (they vill own no cars and vill be happy). You're going to see $6-7/gal gas in California later this decade. So the Chinese market is crucial to the survival of the European auto industry.
 

Troller

Pelican
^To those Taiwanese, China is like the pushy, preachy uncle who used to be on welfare but is now a bigshot . Their elite will not want to be cut out from his fortune.



Falun Gong news outlets like this guy (Chris Chappell) or the Epoch Times are a good source of news for domestic US politics, they generally are pro-Trump and anti-Uniparty, but they're low-grade propaganda when it comes to China.

China has had a great year in terms of trade breakthroughs and foreign policy, they've inked the RCEP in the Asia zone and closed a major deal with the EU, the CAD (Comprehensive Agreement on Investment), which cements their position as the EU's leading trade partner:


This is a better rundown of the situation between the EU and CHina:

Chinese foreign direct investment (FDI) into the EU has increased exponentially over the last few years, primarily directed to the strategic areas of infrastructure and high technology. According to European Commission data, cumulative flows of Chinese FDI into the EU amounted to almost 120 billion euros. However, EU investment into China was even higher, at more than 140 billion euros. About half of EU FDI in China is in the manufacturing sector, with the German automotive industry as the main investor.

Germany also held the rotating presidency of the EU in the second half of 2020. Merkel had made it a priority to conclude the deal by the end of the German presidency. She was instrumental in persuading the other EU leaders to accept a deal that was so beneficial for German industry. German senior officials within the European Commission drove the negotiations to a successful conclusion. On the Chinese side, Xi unusually stepped in personally and made concessions to clinch the deal. For the EU, this was an opportunity to display its “strategic autonomy” in foreign relations before the new U.S. administration set in. For China, it was a way to drive a wedge between the EU and the United States.



Basically China's market is too big for players like Germany to ignore, it is for example already the world's biggest auto market by a solid margin (24 million vs 17 million for the #2 US market), with still a lot of upside, whereas the US and European markets are about to get Klaus Schwabbed (they vill own no cars and vill be happy). You're going to see $6-7/gal gas in California later this decade. So the Chinese market is crucial to the survival of the European auto industry.
Why is chinese market too big to ignore. We’ve ignored chinese market for all 20 century and we were doing fine. It should be forbidden for western companies to invest in China. Its incredibly how chinese which are one small level above gypsies are now calling the shots.
 
Why is chinese market too big to ignore. We’ve ignored chinese market for all 20 century and we were doing fine. It should be forbidden for western companies to invest in China. Its incredibly how chinese which are one small level above gypsies are now calling the shots.

In 1980, the average Chinese person had 1% of the average US GDP per capita. Now they have 15%. The sheer population of China would guarantee a sizable market.

That being said. China is rapidly aging, with TFR levels for Han Chinese at 1.15 nationwide. Tianjin has a TFR of 0.49. Their Population Pyramid mirrors those of Western nations.

China will get old, before it gets rich. The demographic trajectory over the next twenty years will result in an significant aged population, which will create a more risk adverse China than the China of 2021. Without a universial aged pension system, elderly Chinese will not be keen to send their only son/son-in-law to any military conflict. The situation would be akin to late 1960s USA, or 1980 Japan.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
This is what a Uyghur youth indoctrination camp really looks like:

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There is a real jihadi terrorism problem in Xinjiang, and those groups are propped up by the US, Turkey and NATO, and used to destabilize China and the whole silk road region all the way west to Syria.
 

Arado

Pelican
Gold Member
So are we all back on the train of praising 'based' China for holding down the Uighurs, who are actually a tool of the same globalists that support ISIS? Then nothing to worry about, since Biden is on our side too as he doesn't seem to care much about what China is doing there.

 

Eusebius Erasmus

Woodpecker
If you care about the Uyghurs you are a globalist. Zero impact on me and mine.

China stealing American technology and drowning America in fentanyl - price of doing business.

China persecuting its own citizens - activate globohomo!

Bad take. As Christians, we care about those who are being persecuted.

Do you really think Jesus Christ would have said, "Uh, who cares about the Uighurs?"

EDIT. Reading through this thread, too many of you don't realize that the CCP is just part of the emerging globalist paradigm that will bring about the Anti-Christ. You're already being conditioned to accept the Uighurs' persecution as 'based.' If you don't realize this, God help you.
 
That being said. China is rapidly aging, with TFR levels for Han Chinese at 1.15 nationwide. Tianjin has a TFR of 0.49. Their Population Pyramid mirrors those of Western nations.

China will get old, before it gets rich. The demographic trajectory over the next twenty years will result in an significant aged population, which will create a more risk adverse China than the China of 2021. Without a universial aged pension system, elderly Chinese will not be keen to send their only son/son-in-law to any military conflict. The situation would be akin to late 1960s USA, or 1980 Japan.
You are now quoting a 20 year old census that has been long and wide determined to be inaccurate. In the West it's been often used for the type of alarmist (and low key gloating) rhetoric that we see popping up everywhere. I'd give it 1 to 5 years before those same useless authors start blabbing about China's need for immigrants - preferably Africans, Pakistanis and Arabs of course.

A couple of pages back I posted about China's decreasing birth rates, and the number of 1.5 was mentioned in that article. That is where we stand right now.

One more addendum. The ridiculous and divisive emphasis on ethnicity is an Anglo thing. Chinese by and large don't really care about race and ethnicity - only money talks in Mainland China. With the caveat that the person is integrated and Han Chinese passing. There are many cases reported where Han voluntarily choose a non-Han identity for their offspring (like Hui or Zhuang) because it comes with benefits. Obviously the opposite is true as well (for instance Han parents opting for the Han nationality of their Han-Hui grandchild(ren))

The only exceptions in this case are the Uyghurs and Tibetans who are majority non-Han passing and maintain a hostile attitude towards the '1 country 56 nations policy' (or whatever the official term is)
 

the high

Kingfisher
EDIT. Reading through this thread, too many of you don't realize that the CCP is just part of the emerging globalist paradigm that will bring about the Anti-Christ. You're already being conditioned to accept the Uighurs' persecution as 'based.' If you don't realize this, God help you.
How people can't see this is mind-boggling to me. Thinking China is going to be any kind of stop-loss against the globalists plans is pure delusion. They are a part of the globalists themselves. But hey China hates black people so that can't be all that, right?
 
You are now quoting a 20 year old census that has been long and wide determined to be inaccurate. In the West it's been often used for the type of alarmist (and low key gloating) rhetoric that we see popping up everywhere. I'd give it 1 to 5 years before those same useless authors start blabbing about China's need for immigrants - preferably Africans, Pakistanis and Arabs of course.

A couple of pages back I posted about China's decreasing birth rates, and the number of 1.5 was mentioned in that article. That is where we stand right now.

One more addendum. The ridiculous and divisive emphasis on ethnicity is an Anglo thing. Chinese by and large don't really care about race and ethnicity - only money talks in Mainland China. With the caveat that the person is integrated and Han Chinese passing. There are many cases reported where Han voluntarily choose a non-Han identity for their offspring (like Hui or Zhuang) because it comes with benefits. Obviously the opposite is true as well (for instance Han parents opting for the Han nationality of their Han-Hui grandchild(ren))

The only exceptions in this case are the Uyghurs and Tibetans who are majority non-Han passing and maintain a hostile attitude towards the '1 country 56 nations policy' (or whatever the official term is)
I saw some guy from Japan talking about it. Basically it's a tactic to force immigration and destroy countries by subverting them from within.

That said. It's pretty obvious if you think logically.

We are overpopulated.

Cities are overcrowded. And we lack space. So the reduction in people having kids is a biological necessity to avoid extinction. After a generation, Japan will have enough resources for it's population, it will no longer have an ageing population, and those who don't contribute won't have kids, meaning those who do contribute WILL have kids. It's literally the systems self-repair mechanisms at work, and sending in immigrants when there aren't enough youth to force them to integrate or even vetting properly is clogging the system up and resulting in chaos, economic damage and social stagnation. The immigrants are often hired for low wages, driving down wages across the country, and empowering large and powerful corporations that will the happily betray that country they benefited from without guilt or shame. It's a serious threat, and the massive efforts to shut down ALL anti-immigration dialogue are a great argument for the case that they are trying to destabilise our countries. Essentially, this anti-white conspiracy has been in the works all along. This whole time those who tried to warn us about White Genocide were telling the truth. But people failed to recognise it, and now millions will pay the price.

Never again must we dismiss even the most insane conspiracy theories. For to do so when so many came true would be a folly most foolish, and lead to only more suffering in the future. Even the most insane and illogical claims must be examined with an unbiased perspective and dissected for public examination so that we avoid a repeat. Let us pray we will ever get a chance for that to happen.
 
Horrible. Those CCP bastards might end up teaching British kids that Britain sucks, that there are 519 genders and how to use a dildo at the age of 7, as well as the fact that they are causing apocalypse by drinking their juice from plastic straws.

Oh wait.
You are aware political correctness originally came from China? While I haven't seen evidence of such, the rise of cultural marxism and/or critical theory seems like it has been facilitated by an enemy of the West. And so far that points to either Israel or China. Both of which have used 'reeecism' as political weapons, and still do.

While I wouldn't rate China as a greater threat than Critical theory, as Communists themselves, they have little to lose from Critical theory turning the west into third world nations they can control or intimidate with ease.

Also has nobody seen that China Uncensored video about the CCP rewriting the Bible, these guys are literally Satanic. I don't understand why you are defending people that hate Christianity even more than the Cultural Marxists.

 
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