The new cold war with China
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China about to experience an economic crash with its housing/property/real estate bubble on steroids (which foreign supporters and mouthpieces ignore or overlook due to selective bias), as America and Europe brace for the incoming recession and winter with fuel shortage.
I'm surprised that it's Indian outlets who turn out to have the most objective news reporting on Chinese domestic issues when the usual choice is between globohomo negative propaganda against China or the opposite extreme of praising China as a totally benign force (looking at you Cyrus Janssen and Benjamin Norton). I think it's because India has been seeing itself as its own side rather than playing second fiddle to the US just because they're a democratic country that considers China as their rival.
The CCP's total grip on Chinese society might be what's holding back the real estate crash from happening, as the Party can strongarm banks against taking collaterals from people paying on mortgages, and of course there's a limit on how much the Chinese pleb can protest. See Tiananmen 1989
I'm surprised that it's Indian outlets who turn out to have the most objective news reporting on Chinese domestic issues when the usual choice is between globohomo negative propaganda against China or the opposite extreme of praising China as a totally benign force (looking at you Cyrus Janssen and Benjamin Norton). I think it's because India has been seeing itself as its own side rather than playing second fiddle to the US just because they're a democratic country that considers China as their rival.
The CCP's total grip on Chinese society might be what's holding back the real estate crash from happening, as the Party can strongarm banks against taking collaterals from people paying on mortgages, and of course there's a limit on how much the Chinese pleb can protest. See Tiananmen 1989
Kissinger Urges Caution on China, ‘Sense of Direction’ in Europe
In recent years, Henry Kissinger has urged U.S. leaders to maintain a stable relationship with China, describing the increasing hostility between Washington and Beijing as a “catastrophe” for global security.
nationalinterest.org
It's a strange feeling to be looking to Henry Kissinger for wisdom on world peace, but that's where we are.
Yeah, they are not sending their best.
The current group of leaders, outside of Putin, are not serious men.
Also, the Biden regime is the first American President who has not invited Kissinger to the White House. The neoliberal order is shunning the old order. Kissinger deserves a lot of criticism for doing evil, but he practiced what the Germans know as RealPolitik, a practical form of government that shuns ideology and is results- and common sense-driven. Today's neoliberals and neocons are the opposite of this.
Kissinger is right that post-2000 America has taken a weird domestic position on foreign policy, and it has worsened relations with both allies and enemies. America simply fails to acknowledge that other nations are sovereign entities, and that America's opinion on how Chinese should treat the Uigers, for example, is about as relevant as Hungary's opinion on how we should handle BLM. Hungary simply doesn't understand African race relations (bless you Victor Orban for that), and America doesn't understand the Uighers.
By refusing to acknowledge foreign sovereignty and endlessly getting into conflicts and disagreements with China and Russia, America not only makes the world a more dangerous place, but loses its ability to negotiate for those things which *are* important. Essentially, statesmanship and diplomacy are gone.
Ben Franklin was our first master statesmen and was able to get recognition, trade, and aid for the new country that was instrumental in its survival. America used to pride itself on its diplomatic class and ability to negotiate slyly (Kissinger was a master at this) to obtain what it wanted. But neither America or Europe has serious people running things any longer.
They say a picture tells a thousand words. This is the picture of a serious man.
(Konrad Adenauer was one of the 6 men profiled in Kissinger's latest book)
These are not.
America is quickly losing the power and standing to effectively negotiate. It had better get its act together before it runs out of cards.
How does criticizing China morally equate to blindly following the neocon imperialists? India for that matter has continued to be on friendly terms with Russia (and made the right gamble as the West's sanctions are backfiring on Europe). It only comes off as contradictory or paradoxical to normies who are still stuck in the old Cold War mindset of "America good, America's enemies bad" or who don't understand the point of the new multipolar world order. India can simultaneously befriend Russia and dislike China because it's in their interests to do so.
These are not.
America is quickly losing the power and standing to effectively negotiate. It had better get its act together before it runs out of cards.
Downvoted because both Trump and Rand are serious men.
OK I mean...I don't make the memes, I just post em. Take it up with the meme factory or airbrush them out and repost if you like.
I could have posted a different picture of unserious boobs that included Andrew Yang on it, but he's somewhat serious.
But either photo should convey the argument effectively is that our leaders today are not statesmen.
And anyway... Trump? Serious?
Rand Paul? He and Tulsi Gabbard are the only decent politicians I've seen recently, but he doesn't hold a candle to even his father, much less our distinguished leaders from the past.
He's probably the best congresscritter we have today though.
But I don't have time to airbrush him out of memes before I post.
And he would get crushed by the men in Kissinger's book, which was the point of the post.
It's a symbolic argument using imagery to convey a point.
Adenauer of Germany, Charles De Gaulle, Richard Nixon, Anwar Sadat, Margaret Thatcher, Lee Kuan Yew.
Those are men (with MT the exception proving the rule) of a different calibre, who were true statesmen. They are all men of gravitas. Rand Paul is a good congressman, but he's no statesman. We don't produce those anymore. Kissinger's book is Six Studies in World Strategy. Does Rand Paul think strategically? I don't see any strategic thinking being done in America. In fact, when it is tried, it is roundly criticized.
The bigger issue is that modern democracy gives us someone, at best, like a Rand Paul (actually he is the rare outlier, and probably wouldn't even get in to office if he were starting his career today) along with a whole bunch of unserious, weird grifters, shills, and diversity hires. Whereas a few decades ago, before international globomo infiltrated its tentacles all over the globe, you had nations as diverse as Singapore, Egypt, and France producing strong, effective leaders.
It's an international problem which is not just limited to America, though America's politicians are particularly embarrassing. (Arguably the cause is Anglo in nature as the neoliberal order that spread the globe since 1945 is the cause). But Boris Johnson and Justin Trudeau and Angela Merkel don't hold a candle to Thatcher or Churchill either. Another group of weird, unserious, silly people. Universal suffrage capitalistic global democracy creates a system run by gross weird elites, who themselves aren't even as cool as fictional James Bond villains. Bill Gates is no Dr Blofeld and Mark Zuckerberg's empire is no SPECTRE.
I could have posted a different picture of unserious boobs that included Andrew Yang on it, but he's somewhat serious.
But either photo should convey the argument effectively is that our leaders today are not statesmen.
And anyway... Trump? Serious?
Rand Paul? He and Tulsi Gabbard are the only decent politicians I've seen recently, but he doesn't hold a candle to even his father, much less our distinguished leaders from the past.
He's probably the best congresscritter we have today though.
But I don't have time to airbrush him out of memes before I post.
And he would get crushed by the men in Kissinger's book, which was the point of the post.
It's a symbolic argument using imagery to convey a point.
Adenauer of Germany, Charles De Gaulle, Richard Nixon, Anwar Sadat, Margaret Thatcher, Lee Kuan Yew.
Those are men (with MT the exception proving the rule) of a different calibre, who were true statesmen. They are all men of gravitas. Rand Paul is a good congressman, but he's no statesman. We don't produce those anymore. Kissinger's book is Six Studies in World Strategy. Does Rand Paul think strategically? I don't see any strategic thinking being done in America. In fact, when it is tried, it is roundly criticized.
The bigger issue is that modern democracy gives us someone, at best, like a Rand Paul (actually he is the rare outlier, and probably wouldn't even get in to office if he were starting his career today) along with a whole bunch of unserious, weird grifters, shills, and diversity hires. Whereas a few decades ago, before international globomo infiltrated its tentacles all over the globe, you had nations as diverse as Singapore, Egypt, and France producing strong, effective leaders.
It's an international problem which is not just limited to America, though America's politicians are particularly embarrassing. (Arguably the cause is Anglo in nature as the neoliberal order that spread the globe since 1945 is the cause). But Boris Johnson and Justin Trudeau and Angela Merkel don't hold a candle to Thatcher or Churchill either. Another group of weird, unserious, silly people. Universal suffrage capitalistic global democracy creates a system run by gross weird elites, who themselves aren't even as cool as fictional James Bond villains. Bill Gates is no Dr Blofeld and Mark Zuckerberg's empire is no SPECTRE.
There is a difference between criticizing Chinese govt policy and doing the kind of constant irrational anti-China agitprop that you see in sources like NTD, Epoch Times, Fox, Serpentza etc. Gravitas is definitely in the latter category, part of the plan to turn India against China.
Russia has severely damaged this plan by pulling India on board and emphasizing economic growth through BRICS. Gravitas also plays up the Ukraine card, looking like your basic NATO mouthpiece media outlet:
They have to thread carefully though, because public opinion in India is strongly pro-Russian.
A short video critique of American style democracy from China.
Unintentionally funny and weird in a way only Asians can be.
But where's the lie?
Unintentionally funny and weird in a way only Asians can be.
But where's the lie?
I would worry more about actual agitprop coming from the audiences of "dissident news" YouTubers opposing the neocons, with a literal revival of support for Communism because of the perception that the US and EU must be "right-wing" because they prop up the A30B NotSees in Ukraine and they sanction a "socialist" country like Venezuela.
It's an insult to Hungary and Poland to be told that 45 years of Communist tyranny is "liberation." And remember how the Red Army committed massive atrocities against the civilian population of Germany when they're advancing westward.
You don't realize that outlets like Serpentza and the Epoch Times continue to oppose and criticize China because of its Communist totalitarianism. Cultural Revolution, the Anti-Rightist Struggle, the Tiananmen Square Massacre--and these tragedies are steadily being swept under the rug because people who already made up their minds to support China would dismiss them as "US imperialist propaganda."
And give the Indians a reason to be BFFs with China, complete with conceding their territorial disputes and overlooking the reality that the two countries are on a collision course to a civilizational rivalry.
An end to the USA as a world power (say, withdrawing US bases and going on a defensive stance and focusing on domestic problems a la Byzantium) can either bring more peace or more chaos to the world depending on how countries like India, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Brazil, etc will behave accordingly. The rulers of these countries are still driven by their own national interests, and they'll certainly not be friendly to Christianity and Western civilization: Saudi and Iran are Muslim powers ofc, Hinduism is becoming a conduit of Indian nationalism esp. in opposition to Western colonialism, and China will remain an atheist regime in the foreseeable future. Trad right-wingers look to Russia as the last bastion of Christendom, but even RT of all news outlets gives this reality check:
I understand your general concern, but you're fairly off on a number of assumptions, a lot of your analysis above is based on Boomercon perceptions, here is where your points above fall short IMHO:
- Assumption that Putin appointing Jews, Muslims and Buddhists proves that he is some kind of a globalist, as opposed to a champion of Christianity:
Those are all RUSSIAN endemic minorities, that have been part of the Russian empire for centuries, and who, in many cases, occupied their land before they were annexed by the Russian Empire. This does not diminish the Christian nature and influence within that country. Russia under Putin has been promoting the Orthodox Chuch, and is clearly not implementing the Kalergi Plan or being flooded by third world mass immigration.
I am not ascribing to Putin anything more than the statements he has made himself about the direction and philosophy of his leadership. While he's not a "white supremacist", he's an enemy of Globohomo and the GAE.
WW2 was a complicated situation, no side on the eastern front was perfect, the Germans were controlled by an intransigent and ultimately suicidal neo-pagan racialist ideology that considered the Slavs as subhumans, a fatal flaw of nazism, and the Soviets, despite Stalin's pragmatic use of nationalism in the early 40s, which made the USSR a bit better than in the Bolshevik era, were obviously at least as bad as the nazis.
Inasmuch as the USSR symbols are represented in modern times in the context of the Ukraine war, it is the nationalist element that is driving that representation, as opposed to some kind of widely-shared modern national love for communism. The red victory flag is about celebrating Russia's truimph over nazi Germany, not the victory of communism as a political system, even though communism is clearly represented by this flag.
WRT Hungary and Poland, what is relevant here is that Hungary and Russia are together not on board of Globohomo, while in Poland their nationalism is being used by GAE/Globohomo to turn them against Russia, as is done in Ukraine.
China is by many measures less communistic in practice than most western countries (size of public sector, regulatory environment, school dogmas etc), and has weaned itself from the Cultural Revolution. It has succeeded in blending the best features of capitalism and market economies with socialism (free education, healthcare, subsidized housing&transport, national infrastructure etc).
It is the West that is under a new cultural revolution, which can best be summarized as baizuo. Chinese people accept a certain level of authoritarian rule in exchange for strong economic growth across their entire demography, social stability and national strength, while in the West, liberties have been eroding substantially while the middle and working classes have been getting poorer.
China is controlled by a bunch of capable authoritarian nationalists that have lifted their countrymen from abject communist poverty to the greatest industrial power and wealthiest nation that is no longer subject to foreign control, while the West is controlled by Blackrock, Vanguard and the bankster cabal, who are actively working to control and fleece the western populace that they view as their cattle. Serpentza et al provide a false representation of that picture, while completely ignoring the emerging authoritarianism and the economic dislocations from globalist policies in the West.
Tiananmen was a ClA-funded color revolution, far less bloody than the Maidan color revolution, or the Odessa and other massacres of Russophones perpetrated across Novorossyia since 2014. If you'd like we can discuss Tiananmen and other aspects of China in the appropriate thread.
I would also note that the level of violence in the suppression of protests in countries like France or Holland today is much worse than that of Chinese authorities in Hong Kong.
"US imperialist propaganda" is a real thing wrt China and other target countries (Russia, Syria etc). Serpentza, Epoch Times, Steve Bannon and co will have you believe that China puts thousands (millions?) of Uyghurs in concentration camps, that Assad "gassed his own people", or that Russia is bombing Ukie cities and hospital for the hell of it... Complete BS.
Firstly I'm gonna point out that you misrepresent my viewpoints here by claiming that I'm a "boomercon;" if it makes you more sympathetic, I'm making a disclaimer that no longer buy into the Zionist-neocon bs (and have actually gone down the rabbit hole as regards the JQ which might even be too much for you)
The point of the RT screenshot is not to claim that Putin is a globalist on the mere basis of appointing non-Christians and/or non-ethnic Russians; rather, to tell American trad wignats--who are ethno-nationalist LARPers for the most part--to not project their based Crusader fantasy on Russia. These are ironically the very same people who would refuse to integrate even Christian non-whites into their dream ethnostate. otoh Putin's rule may as well prove how it's possible to have "multiculturalism" and "civic nationalism" and still retain a European Christian identity.
I know it's a complicated situation, and it's best to view WW2 as the last in the wars between the Great Powers of Europe (add the Japanese Empire into the mix). But knowing everything that's going on in the West now, I've come to agree with Gen. Patton that "we have fought the wrong enemy." And also that I'm questioning a certain event involving the number 6 million. That's another matter for discussion.
Because Poles are not exactly fond of Russia, regardless if it's ruled by Tsars or Communist Party Secretaries or a pragmatic autocrat like Putin. This should already be obvious with the Partitions of the PLC, the Bolshevik attack on Warsaw in 1920, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and the years of Poland as a puppet state of the USSR. You couldn't just tell them to set aside historical grudges and grievances on the basis of facing a common threat. It's like telling Irish nationalists to team up with the UK far-right to stop the mass Islamization of their homelands.
I commend modern China for these ngl, but it's a funny irony how they're now practicing neoliberal capitalism with extra steps.
The difference is that Xi Jinping and his subordinates are driven with the interests of the Chinese people in mind. The current ( ( elites ) ) ruling over the West hate Western civilization and white peoples.
So why does the Chinese government keep denying it if they deem it necessary to violently suppress the revolt with tanks rolling over people (if at this point you honestly even believe what I'm talking about)? The fact that the CIA saw an opportunity doesn't invalidate that many Chinese people yearn for freedom against the tyranny brought about by the Cultural Revolution.
And no, China in 1989 isn't the same as Ukraine and Russia in 2014. It'll be like saying that Han Chinese people who want to take down Communism were driven by ethnic hatred against their own people. I don't really need to discuss these in a separate thread, thank you.
Your statement exactly proves my point about polarization driving people into dismissing any and all criticism of China or the evils of Communism as US imperialist propaganda. This just goes to the opposite extreme of "America bad, America's enemies good" Or it might be me being a weirdo for both opposing the neocons and being wary of Communist China at the same time.
Russia and China for that matter hadn't gotten along well despite facing a common enemy, whether it's Tsarist Russia vs the Qing Dynasty or during the Sino-Soviet split.
@Yeagerist - Putin's rule doesn't show how you merge civic nationalism and multiculturalism. Many of the different groups don't want anything to do with each other. Yet a culture of not saying anything papers that over. Many non-Russians in Russia hate Putin and Russia. And many Russians want non-Russians to go away, and they want nothing to do with them. In my XP of having been in Russia several times, they see less difference between me than a Georgian or Armenian, of whom there is about 2 million in Russia. To clarify, I am from the UK. My experience is that the position of most Russians is actually quite similar to say the cira 50% of people in Europe who want a complete end to Islamic immigration, and presumably non-white, particularly African immigration.
When Putin goes, there is the chance of several separatists movements firing up. They have just been suprrssed and bought of.
As for Russia being a Christian nation. It's not true. For Putin it is largely window-dressing.
Putin does essentially represent multiculturalism in Russia, but only as a means of keeping an empire together that would otherwise split.
When Putin goes, there is the chance of several separatists movements firing up. They have just been suprrssed and bought of.
As for Russia being a Christian nation. It's not true. For Putin it is largely window-dressing.
Putin does essentially represent multiculturalism in Russia, but only as a means of keeping an empire together that would otherwise split.
There was a journalist in Russia called Yulia Latyina. Lengthier translated from Russian.
I'd say her views are in the general ballpark of those expressed here, with the exception of them being secular.
- only net tax-payers should be able to vote (e.g. actual Republicanism)
- against the global warming mafia
- pro-Armenia in the 2021 war with Azerbaijan
- very critical of Islam, including covering rape gangs in the UK
- against multi-culturalism
- against social justice
- against the EU
- knows the issues of living with black people
These are all positions that are popular both here in Russia. Putin is a wall between that. He's holding up an empire, which would be better off having several parts of it becoming independent states, and inducing those peoples to go back to their homelands.
The above quote from RT is true from the perspective of Putin's policies. But not of the general Russian population.
It's also worth noting who has opposed the war in Russia:
The Right Block - Russian nationalism, anti-Communist party
Russian National Union - Russian nationalist, social conservative party
Great Russia - Russian nationalist, anti-Israel, anti-Islam, orthodox fundamentalist, monarchist political organisation
People's Cathedral - nationalist, orthodox fundamental, family values promoting organisation
Ethnic National Association - national socialist organisation operating in Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus
I'd say her views are in the general ballpark of those expressed here, with the exception of them being secular.
- only net tax-payers should be able to vote (e.g. actual Republicanism)
- against the global warming mafia
- pro-Armenia in the 2021 war with Azerbaijan
- very critical of Islam, including covering rape gangs in the UK
- against multi-culturalism
- against social justice
- against the EU
- knows the issues of living with black people
These are all positions that are popular both here in Russia. Putin is a wall between that. He's holding up an empire, which would be better off having several parts of it becoming independent states, and inducing those peoples to go back to their homelands.
The above quote from RT is true from the perspective of Putin's policies. But not of the general Russian population.
It's also worth noting who has opposed the war in Russia:
The Right Block - Russian nationalism, anti-Communist party
Russian National Union - Russian nationalist, social conservative party
Great Russia - Russian nationalist, anti-Israel, anti-Islam, orthodox fundamentalist, monarchist political organisation
People's Cathedral - nationalist, orthodox fundamental, family values promoting organisation
Ethnic National Association - national socialist organisation operating in Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus
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It seems like a "Jack's wrong so John must be right" situation when discussing China.
My enemy's enemy is my friend.
Friend of mine's family member was stuck in Wuhan during the initial Covid Chinese psy-op.
Remember that? The spontaneously fainting street people, ambulances full of haz-mat warriors racing around whilst the trees in the background of that footage were strangely showing spring foliage (in wintry January?)
As I've said multiple times before lock down in China's fake false flag Kissinger/globalist stunt was harsher than anywhere else, indispensable QR Codes rolled out almost immediately, long jail sentences for any online dissent, Apple and assorted Globalist Jew stores remaining open to a very few super rich customers with bored staff forced to pretty much live there or next door, everyone else unable to move more than a few streets if that as they could only visit the only affordable store that was open, the grocery store, one day a week, total crackdown on the poor and lower middle classes, people stranded wherever they found themselves with nowhere to go for weeks on end whilst the super rich could pretty much go anywhere in China and do almost any thing.
Oh and all the Cultural Revolution ephemera came roaring back. The Red banners everywhere, the deputised party members forming cordon sanitises on nearly every street corner, the never-ending megaphone exhortations, the ridiculous party metaphors yelled out to awful music, people at their workplace being told to record pro party video messages posted to social media or else..
Fascinating watching my Jewish executive level colleagues lap it all up and insist that we foreigners get on board whilst we were subjected to soaring xenophobic controls and propaganda which they seemed very enthusiastic about.
To call it all dystopian was an understatement.
I don't care if SerpentZA and that other lesbian-looking fella Laowhey are the hell-spawn of Bill Kristol and one of Imelda Marcos' rhinestone encrusted shoes.. the footage they shared was legit. I was there.
So this person was stuck and soon became a bargaining chip between the Australian Government and the CCP. They were actually on the Australian evening news. My friend, as a family member, went on Channel 9 social media platforms and re-stated what her family member had said on TV: that they did not like the Scottie Morrison government, did not agree with their China policy, did not have any issue with the CCP, they just wanted to come home to Oz.. if at all possible.
It was spectacular the bile she and others got back from the Chinese WuMao online bandits as well as the many many Mainland Chinese
living in Oz. relentless. She complained to FB Insta et al, but to what end? China is the Jewish Cabal's number one all star pick.
The Chinese could threaten her, her family, their addresses, say whatever they liked and our Hebrew Social Media Cheka knocked back and dismissed every single screen-shot of threats and vitriol sent their way.
I had one exchange with a rich Chinese woman living in Sydney where I told her politely where she was wrong.
Of course, I copped a Facebook ban from (((Zuckerberg))) for 3 weeks for not worshipping China enough as she did the usual Chinese cry-bully response and cited me for Rayyyy-cism.
This is a YouTube video about the Sino-Vietnamese war of 1979.
By then China had been through 'ping-pong diplomacy' courtesy of their cabal friend Kissinger. they had seen Kissinger torpedo his supposed boss Richard Nixon during Watergate and knew that it didn't matter how many stomachs burst under pressure of their sewage hose or how many elderly people they forced to select and beat to death one of their number during a prison "Thamzing" struggle session.
Their Cabal allies had killed Kennedy, taken out Nixon, the cultural revolution was long in the background.. but they saw that they could Holodomor and Red Terror the Cambodian people along the same lines they had slaughtered their own people in the previous decade according to the plans the Jews gave them, and there would never be any consequence. Might as well expect the world to act against Israel in the West Bank.
The Khmer Rouge would keep their UN seat thanks to the Jewish Cabal, even when those genocidal freaks no longer governed Cambodia, even when every high end book shop had tome after tome of the Bolshevik hell they had inflicted on children, old women and peaceable farmers - they still lived the high life in the UN and in Jew York.
The Daily Stormer would latterly discover that both Taiwan and China both claim governance of a country locked in a frozen conflict and 40 years later the jews top draft pick for Great Reset tyranny would still be destined for excuse after excuse.
So.. the CCP took exception to Vietnam invading the hell realm that was Democratic Kampuchea after the KR had stepped up attacks and atrocities committed on Vietnamese border villages. They could no longer stomach the presence of such a xenophobic and hostile neighbour and so, despite not really having the resources, they committed to a full scale invasion and defeated China's ally.
China thought that they had a golden opportunity to enter a relatively undefended and de-powered Vietnam absent its armed forces and so invaded Northern Vietnam, advancing on Hanoi. Despite the lack of manpower and materiel, the reservists left behind mounted a stern defence . the conflict swung back and forth a few times in difficult mountain terrain but eventually the Chinese had to console themselves with small gains in border territory and a humiliation at the hands of reservist peasantry.
Note the comments underneath, the Chinese are out in force.
Now where have we seen the underneath logic before?
"The Chinese lost troops and material but the have achieve their objective , America lost more materials in Afghanistan and failed . America is completely out of central Asia , it is big lost (sic) " >America lost in Afghan 40 years later and therefore China didn't lose that badly. Sure.
Replies; "what objective, the objective you made up after you lost the war?"
"1. The Chinese army completed all the pre-war objectives...
2. The Chinese army voluntarily withdraws not because of the Vietnamese army
3. The northern border of Vietnam was completely destroyed...Infrastructure and material losses were severe." (These people are commenting now, not in some fanatical Red Book past.)
Reply: "1. pre war Objectives,which one? The PAVN stayed in Cambodia for ten years until UNTAC intevened, you could even reach the red river delta, you suffer heavy casualties just before you managed to capture some provincial capital,and and couldn't further.
2. You withdrawed because the PAVN's 2nd Corps were redeployed from Cambodian, feared of the high casualty conduct from Vietnamese Militias and Armed Police, you decided it was not a good idea to face a seasoned Vietnamese Regular Force. And you retreated.
3,Name one war that the defensive side did not suffer infrastructure damage, you fought the Japanese, you should know best. Beside the northern provinces did not have much infrastructure and industry to begin with and they still are. And with the northern border was at constant conflict, it's not really much of a big deal at the time."
"China did not used air force because Vietnam is small , every day the Chinese told the Vietnamese to accept the condition or they would 30 km ahead . They did move many times 30 km , closer and closer to Hanoi to make Vietnam accept the Chinese condition."
This is the logic of a child who won't admit he's lost BUT interestingly, the Viets who commented on this video all had their WeChat App on their smartphones de-activated and couldn't get them back.
Its a small thing but a guy I know in China is married in through family to the "hundred thousand" that police the internet and roam the foreign message boards insulting everyone who "insults China!"
You'd like to think that this was just kids calling each other names on the internet but that was Chinese government operatives. they have the same mindset as kids on the internet though.. adult sophistication until it comes to demanding that China be above any and all criticism.
They actually believe that the Sino Vietnamese war was a testament to the genius strategy of Deng Xiao Ping and that he planned an ignominious defeat as part of his "wider strategy" to slyly beat the Vietnamese and other neighbouring countries economically in the coming decades. Well, that was the gift of the Jewish Cabal.. not any part of the failed 1979 military strategy, he just agreed to that separate jewish scheme. politician that he was.
This is basically a template lifted from General Nguyen Giap, the genius Vietnamese general who absorbed massive casualties during the Tet Offensive and yet used the same offensive to sap the morale of the US public back home.
When you point out the errors in their argument their brains melt and they get very flustered. After all, China is number one..
These are people have mostly attended a bilingual high school, can speak English, have had a few years of instruction with foreign English teachers, and may have even spent time hanging out with them. They work in a very professional setting. They have traveled abroad to Thailand, London, Rome where as security personnel they experience no vetting. They like Western films and music, and drink French red wine at dinner.
While the condescension in the more backwards and uneducated Asian countries is annoying, it's tolerable because they and their homelands have lots of other redeeming qualities. The Chinese really don't when it comes to any discussion of China and foreigners. don't believe the propaganda videos made for the West and alt-right based takes until you visit the heartland of the PRC,
China takes "mania" "xenophobia" and blocking it all out with "this is bourgeois imperialist dogma" to another level, all the whilst the help are washing out the stinking mop just used to clean the toilet bowl in their kitchen sink and they are telling you that Uighurs and Tibetans aren't really human and that they eat their own faeces. I've seen this first hand.
If you say that there is more nuance to the Tibetan issue or the Mongolian issue or Uighur camps they will look around and say "how can a foreigner say this to me! You are accusing a Chinese of being an uncaring person! No, the Chinese are caring. It is the Western imperialists that are responsible!" (Whataboutism and denial. Ever heard that logic before on RVF?) Even the worst Thai yellow shirt or Thai Rak Thai will not carry on like this. In fact those people are smart and nuanced, just corrupt and tyrannical in their conduct.
By contrast the long term game plan for these cultured Chinese is admittedly supremacy and to crush the 'enemy':
Maoism has to have an enemy. And its alot better for the CCP to have external 'bourgeois imperialists' to focus the hatred on rather than any internal Chinese 'class enemies'.
The level of cruelty is baked in from what I can see and the issue is that the population has been inculcated to believe that China, Chinese, Maoism and the PRC are all the same thing and not to be criticised nor opposed by anyone, especially outsiders.
The Netflix documentary American Factory .. where the Chinese CEO is told that the Ohio workers are angered with the lack of safety and at their mistreatment he starts saying "They are against China! They are anti-Chinese!'
As a result of the Russian relations RT has been flooded with wumao and many many terms "offensive to Chinese" have been banned, including for some reason Antifa which I can't fathom. Its just so tiresome debating these people. they have no reflexive self awareness.
China is number one.
China is great.
Everything else has to be reverse engineered to arrive at the above two conclusions..
So, hysterically, the cuck English Rugby Football Union took a two year 'inquiry' to arrive at the conclusion that Trans-women with their bigger bone structure shouldn't play women's rugby. Applause. Everyone on RT was celebrating this when the Chinese waded in saying:
"This is just the Anglo Saxon mentality, they always discriminate."
"these trans women are victims of the British imperial mentality"
So when the RT comments board started accusing them of being 'Baizuo' they got extremely heated and started demanding that the Western pig-dogs remove 'our language' from their 'filthy mouths'. Again, these people get paid to type this stuff.
When they had the origins of Woke and the Frankfurt School explained to them their immediate response was:
"This is just the racial hatred towards jews that the imperialist west always exhibits."
When people refused to let that one lie they were told: "take the word jew out of your disgusting Imperialist mouth" etc. etc.
I mean it. China number one. They have no sense of their own shadow.
Look at the Maoist Khmer Rouge who acknowledged the PRC as their "big Brother', look at the Sendero Luminoso in Peru in the 90's. Look at Mugabe in Zimbabwe in the early 80s.
Any time the label Maoist gets attached to a terror group or army and they get Chinese support you know they are going to go about an unnecesrily cruel campaign that will mess up everything for everyone : including the terrorists themselves who end up starving and killing each other off (and in the case of Peru it seemed that there were no Jewish Globalist types coming to bail them out on that occasion, but fast forward a few years later and guess what, they're back again..).
And the jews love China. I mean it they love China. I know Jews who have attended Chinese think tanks or have worked with Foxxconn or lectured in their universities. I even know a jewish childhood friend of Steve Kerr's son. Steve Kerr's position on China isn't just NBA realpolitik, he is surrounded by jews who love China and hate the average white western sports ball fan with an atavism.
Disregard all the posturing, Soros, the CEFR. the Heritage Foundation, Jasper Becker lecturing in a cramped room where only a few faithful have turned up and the odd Nancy Pelosi comment on Taiwan.
Jews are masters of the dialectic and that pincer serves its purpose. just like the Kalergi Plan, the plan goes ahead, the West sinks and China rises, buoyed by the Jews as they finally use her to defeat "Edom".
By the way, the level of coercion in Chinese society and the workplace is off the scale and the level of trust is very low as the attitude to staff is so exploitative. I saw an old lady fall and get scalded with piping hot food in the restaurant she worked in. Everybody went quiet. no-one moved. I was yelled at when I stood up to help her by the owner. The owner stood over her and yelled at her and we sat in silence, a crowded restaurant, as she took an age to get up and slowly limp away.. in pain. I saw similar things in Vietnam but everybody within and without Vietnam would acknowledge that society's many flaws and do so with a freedom they just don't have in China.
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Even when I have been disenfranchised from God and synagogue, I have always been culturally proud to be a Jew. A source of that pride is the Jewish tradition of helping the oppressed, and our involvement in social movements such as labor and civil rights. Until I saw the documentary “The...
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As a means of learning about the world while trying to avoid MSM propaganda, I'll occasionally search for information about countries that Western corporate media never reports on and see what's being reported on them. This usually ends up focusing on Central Asia, Eastern Europe, most of Africa, and Pacific Island nations.
Because Solomon Islands is one of the largest of these nations in area (aside from AUS and NZ of course) I decided to see what's going on there. Invariably in these searches, no matter where in the world the country is located, something comes up about some sort of Chinese involvement in the country's politics, infrastructure, or both. Whatever's going on in Solomon Islands has enough impact on the global power structure to have attracted the attention of Jeff B.
This reads like a Great Game scenario with the US and aligned countries vying with China for influence in seemingly insignificant remote nations. But as we learn, even remote places aren't without strategic importance whether it's resources or geographical position. Based on its location, Australia seems to be doing the heavy lifting on behalf of the aligned Western interests. The article also makes several references to the Taiwan situation. Despite the questionable source, I found this a fascinating read. No doubt at least one grain of salt is required.
Because Solomon Islands is one of the largest of these nations in area (aside from AUS and NZ of course) I decided to see what's going on there. Invariably in these searches, no matter where in the world the country is located, something comes up about some sort of Chinese involvement in the country's politics, infrastructure, or both. Whatever's going on in Solomon Islands has enough impact on the global power structure to have attracted the attention of Jeff B.
This reads like a Great Game scenario with the US and aligned countries vying with China for influence in seemingly insignificant remote nations. But as we learn, even remote places aren't without strategic importance whether it's resources or geographical position. Based on its location, Australia seems to be doing the heavy lifting on behalf of the aligned Western interests. The article also makes several references to the Taiwan situation. Despite the questionable source, I found this a fascinating read. No doubt at least one grain of salt is required.
Guess which nation is literally "our greatest ally," as in, it has gone to war on behalf of America more times than any other?
No, it's not the Jewish mideast nation who refuses to sign a treaty with us, it's Australia.
The funny thing is, I was there about 10 years ago and something like 1 out of every 6 people in college there is Chinese, studying there and then returning home. They are in a really awkward position by opposing China. China is heavily involved in trade, finance, real estate, etc. Australia has a better domestic manufacturing industry than the USA, but as an island, there are many things they rely on strictly through shipping, and China is the obvious supplier.
Opposing China is not in their interest, and as their Chinese population grows, I wonder if they will wake up to this fact.
No, it's not the Jewish mideast nation who refuses to sign a treaty with us, it's Australia.
The funny thing is, I was there about 10 years ago and something like 1 out of every 6 people in college there is Chinese, studying there and then returning home. They are in a really awkward position by opposing China. China is heavily involved in trade, finance, real estate, etc. Australia has a better domestic manufacturing industry than the USA, but as an island, there are many things they rely on strictly through shipping, and China is the obvious supplier.
Opposing China is not in their interest, and as their Chinese population grows, I wonder if they will wake up to this fact.
Congressional Delegation visits Taiwan less than two weeks after Pelosi trip sparked furious response from China — NBC News
China launched a series of military exercises after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s trip to the Beijing-claimed island.
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