The new cold war with China

Great insight True. It's interesting, thinking back to American politics there has always has been this big enemy. It's part of the system. The fight of the democrats and republicans being about who is the biggest enemy.

It's as if every both parties needs their own enemy. And what I find even more interesting that enemy based politics probably has a huge advantage for those in power. Looking at the quick list below, there has always been a war. If you rally the population against the enemy it gives internal stability, power, and easy ways to increase your power: Special laws, regulations.

- Nazi Germany
- USSR / Cold War / Communism
- Korea
- Vietnam
- LIbya
- Iraq
- Global war on terrorism
- Afghanistan
- The flu
- Russia
- China

I remember reading Machiavelli as a political strategist positioning war purely a tool for leader to stay in power. It make me think, what would the US be without wars? Wouldn't it dissolve?

Is it wars that build nations and that keep populations under control? That the war might be the most important element of statesmanship. That it's about picking the right enemy. The allegations to China are so surreal and far from reality, but it doesn't seem to matter, looking at the graph below China would be the best pick.

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Just to be said it's completely sickening how the "peasantry" is abused and sacrificed under the disguise of glory and pride for the power hungry elites. It's tyranny of the physical body of man, but also on the spiritual body. Constant lies just to stay in power with many people deceived from the truth.
With Brandon's latest speech against the MAGA movement, there's no need anymore for either party to scapegoat China, Russia or Iran as a looming civil war seems to suffice just fine.
 
Has anyone heard anything about the rumor of a coup against Xi?


 
Has anyone heard anything about the rumor of a coup against Xi?


I've become skeptical of Indian media lately, as they appear to push for a sentiment of rivalry against China. And even if Xi Jinping was removed in a "coup," that only shows that China is not (or no longer) the Communist totalitarian system that Western media makes it out to be. Because it implies that the President of the PRC has to rely on the confidence of the other senior officials in the CCP. Then it wouldn't be actually a "coup" but a simple removal on account of losing support.
 
Has anyone heard anything about the rumor of a coup against Xi?


It's fake. Likely CIA agitprop. Xi is in no danger of being overthrown.

If I needed to clarify, supporting China in 2022 as the lesser evil does not entail completely denying or forgetting the evil deeds of Mao and his comrades during the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward. And I refuse to be lectured further on these topics, as I used to be vehemently anti-China and neocon myself, but I came to the realization that China has greatly changed, and its improvement in the standard of living in the last two decades cannot be denied anymore.

As for why the Chinese government still keeps Communist imagery and label, the answer is obvious: why would they care about needing to rebrand themselves in accordance to the wishes of white American neocons?

And the Western order is getting more and more anti-Christian and morally corrupt by the day. I doubt American right-wingers have more urgency to talk about China's past persecution of Christians when they literally have to worry more about drag queen grooming and woke infiltration of their own churches.
You strike me as being a very young man, and it's entertaining watching you talk about something that you have no idea about. It sort of reminds me when I was younger, and I would jump headfirst into topics of conversation that I had no idea about. Instead of bristling at the idea of being "lectured," you should pause and consider the things others have written.

I lived in China for 6 years. I speak Mandarin. I have a Chinese wife. The vast majority of her family is in China. My children will be half-Chinese. Myself and my bloodline are now totally invested in the country, so it's not an abstract idea to me.
 
Highly dramatic moment at the CPC summit yesterday, with a brutal public humiliation and removal of former premier Hu Jintao. Watch influential CPC #5 Wang Huning 2 chairs on Hu's left as he stares at Hu while he's being yanked out...



Another high-level moderate/liberal got purged:



You're going to see a tougher stance from China going forward.
 
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Looks like I might have been somewhat wrong about the Hu Jintao episode, he had a Biden-like senility episode before being led off:



Though according to a keen observer, there was some disagreement between Hu and Xi going in with regards to the nominations of the future leadership structure, Hu`s favorite was passed over, this was the reason for his visible disagreement. Also, the big young guy who escorted Hu is Xi`s personal bodyguard.
 
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I came across this video, that provides a fairly well reasoned theory that China's GDP is vastly overstated, putting their actual GDP at only 40% of what's claimed. It's based on increases in night light intensity. I wonder how this would apply to Russia.



Relevant: Here is a map showing how bright the lights are at night. One thing I noticed is a huge area of brightness in North Central Russia. This is almost certainly from oil wells. You can see the same thing in North Dakota and Texas. However, I think light from oil production is a valid indicator of GDP levels.

Edit: If this is true, China's economy is only about 9 times larger than Taiwan, not 23 times bigger. Of course China's population is still 60 times greater.
 
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I already posted this in the Taiwan invasion thread but am cross posting it here because it's relevant:



I wonder if there is something a lot more sinister brewing in China.

I've heard that they are issuing less than a million news passports per year now (in a country of over 1 billion, that's less than 1 percent) and are refusing to renew old passports unless you have a very good reason to go abroad, Finally, they are also allegedly cutting off small corners from Chinese passports from citizens returning home so they can't leave again.

All this points to a government that wants it's keep all citizens locked inside their own country, like they did from the early 1950s to the late 1970s under Mao Zedong.

The question is why ?

The most likely reason for me is that they are really going to invade Taiwan this time, which might trigger a much larger war with the USA.
If they really go through with this, then they will need every man they can get, and have to prevent anyone from leaving, which they seem to be preparing for ahead of time.
 
I wonder if there is something a lot more sinister brewing in China.

The question is why ?
That's possible, and it makes sense, but it could also just be general control mechanisms kicking in and repeating what they did in the past, as you mentioned, but without any specific purpose other than the general prevention of people and their money leaving, which is a tactic that communist govt's have used since the early days of the USSR. China has more and more tried to limit and prevent its wealthy and influential people from moving their money outside of its borders.

When Obama took power in 2009, one of the first things I saw that changed was connecting Americans' social security numbers (tax ID number for non-Americans) to people's passports, which was obviously part of the mechanism of preventing people from leaving because of having debts. Since then, it has become illegal for people with child support and family court judgments to leave America and I expect that other types of debts will be attached at a later time

It wouldn't surprise me if our credit or social credit score became part of the qualification for being able to leave. During covid, you couldn't enter without a negative test, and you couldn't leave Canada without a jab. Many govts are increasing their border controls now and I believe it will continue to accelerate.
 
I came across this video, that provides a fairly well reasoned theory that China's GDP is vastly overstated, putting their actual GDP at only 40% of what's claimed. It's based on increases in night light intensity. I wonder how this would apply to Russia.



Relevant: Here is a map showing how bright the lights are at night. One thing I noticed is a huge area of brightness in North Central Russia. This is almost certainly from oil wells. You can see the same thing in North Dakota and Texas. However, I think light from oil production is a valid indicator of GDP levels.

Edit: If this is true, China's economy is only about 9 times larger than Taiwan, not 23 times bigger. Of course China's population is still 60 times greater.

Maybe the Chinese can see in the dark, like cats?
 
Despite my strong admiration for all the globohomo filth that China protects it's population from, it's appalling treatment of its own (very loyal) Chinese citizens, by putting them into coronavirus/covid concentration camps even now, almost 3 years after the fake pandemic began, is indefensible.

I fully understand the repeated crackdowns they do on the hostile muslim population in the far west of China, but the measures they are taking even in the big famous coastal cities in the east of the country, against the majority ethnic Han Chinese, cannot be justified under any argument.

 
Despite my strong admiration for all the globohomo filth that China protects it's population from, it's appalling treatment of its own (very loyal) Chinese citizens, by putting them into coronavirus/covid concentration camps even now, almost 3 years after the fake pandemic began, is indefensible.

I fully understand the repeated crackdowns they do on the hostile muslim population in the far west of China, but the measures they are taking even in the big famous coastal cities in the east of the country, against the majority ethnic Han Chinese, cannot be justified under any argument.



Can't go back on Zero Covid - which is unattainable in a smaller nation, much less the world's most populous - otherwise the regime will lose tremendous face.
 
Can't go back on Zero Covid - which is unattainable in a smaller nation, much less the world's most populous - otherwise the regime will lose tremendous face.
I think this is probably the explanation. I've wondered in previous posts why China continues to perpetuate this Covid farce, when they must know it is fake, and was probably created by the US and targeted against them as an attack.

Since they believed it initially and took radical steps to try to contain it, they now are stuck with continuing the policy in perpetuity, to avoid losing face.

They ought to just come out and announce the danger is past, because the initially virulent virus has evolved into a range of mild variants, as viruses are known to do, so their zero Covid policies worked and saved the country by allowing time for the virulent version to go away. It would still be a bunch of bull, but they could save face, and drop the charade.
 
I'm starting to believe these cruel measures have only one purpose. And that is to perpetrate evil.
It's hard to comprehend because we tend to think that evil acts serve only as a way to obtain further goals, like power, control, and money, and evil is not a goal itself. But the sole intent of pure evil is just that, evilness.

The ambition of genocide is genocide, nothing else. All current agendas, like covid, climate change, or Ukraine wars, are not meant to reach their goals or change anything. They are just vehicles that evil uses.
The road is the goal because this journey will bring many dead.

Satan doesn't care about eradicating diseases or changing the climate. He wants people dead and ends up in hell.

We are entering dangerous times, and this is probably just beginning.

As Bible says, Unless the Lord had shortened those days, no life would have been saved.
 
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