The new cold war with China

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
Very informing thread on US policy and political philosophy towards China:


The US approach to China is that we must remain the hegemon, and must be sneaky and underhanded to undermine China and sow chaos, to protect our security.

I hate to see the US play the villain like this, as they are also doing with Russia and Ukraine. Peaceful coexistence was easily practical in the case of Russia and Ukraine. There was no need to provoke the current conflict at all, especially with the risk of WWIII. However, the US just couldn't resist the temptation to try to stick it to Russia.

In the case of China, they are a competitor, but again, we seem to be seeking to destabilize them and cause trouble, instead of seeking to find a way to achieve a peaceful status between us.

It's bad enough to be playing power politics by dirty means to stir up trouble, but then you add in the satanic globohomo aspect of US foreign policy, and it's just evil from top to bottom.
 

Caduceus

Ostrich



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Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
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1960-61 looks pretty shocking! 10 million down in 1960! I'm guessing this was from famine due to totalitarian economic methods.

Nowadays everyone says capitalism is bad, even when the current system is really a corporate oligarchy. However few "capitalist" countries managed to starve 10 million in one year.

Yikes!
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
Yep, the Great Leap Forward of 1959-61, where it's estimated that 45 million died as the result.
I'm surprised the Chinese government was even honest enough to report 10 million deaths in 1960. Throughout this Covid nonsense, they've been reporting single digit deaths per day. As far as I can see, Covid has caused slightly higher death rates than the usual flu, possibly twice as much as the next worse year since 2000. That doesn't justify the lockdowns and other cruelties, but it's more than single digits per day out of 1.4 billion people.

The Chinese government lies a lot, as everybody knows. If they admitted to 10 million, perhaps the real number was far more than 45 million. For that matter, I wonder what the current year's numbers actually are? We certainly can't believe the reported figure.
 

TCOCBR18

Robin
Orthodox
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Births in China fell by another million in 2022, according to the official numbers. That makes 2022 simply a continuation of the trend, as Chinese births have decreased by an average of over a million per year for the last six years. Just comparing the number of births from 2016 and 2022 shows a rapid transformation: 17.86 million in 2016 vs. 9.56 million in 2022. That is a loss of nearly half in a short time. I have noticed that in a lot of countries' demographic declines, they had low fertility rates for many years but only began really significantly collapsing in the late 2010s. Now, China's fertility rate has been recorded at 1.07, which is absolutely appalling. That is still better than South Korea, though.
 

murphykj930

Robin
Buddhist / Eastern
If you never thought you cared about semiconductors, consider this: Our economy — really, our functioning as a society — is heavily dependent on this product that is mostly made on a tiny island under threat from neighboring mainland China.​
Chips are everywhere. Without them, many of us can’t work. We can’t operate our smartphones. We can’t drive our cars. We can’t guide our missiles. President Xi Jinping of China has made clear he believes that Taiwan, where some of the most cutting-edge chips are made, is part of China’s territory, and tensions over that claim are high.​
-From Suein Hwang, NYT

To me, it sounds like we might go to war so that people can buy new iPhones and cars every year. As much as I appreciate my iPhone six (or seven), I’m not sure I’m willing to kill for it.
 

murphykj930

Robin
Buddhist / Eastern
The Cold War with China is really based off of these little chips. Crazy how important they actually are these days.
 
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Cynllo

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer

A four-star Air Force general has told his officers to prepare for war with China within two years — instructing them to drill service members “with the full understanding that unrepentant lethality matters most.”

“I hope I am wrong,” Mike Minihan, head of the 50,000-member Air Mobility Command, wrote in the chilling Friday memo, NBC News reported. “My gut tells me we will fight in 2025.”
 

Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
Western elites are so delusional they think it's a better idea to risk war with China than to build their own microchips in their own countries.

Give our overlords more credit - they just passed a CHIP Act last year that will invest billions to create microchips in upstate NY. Combined with the huge increase in military production the USA will be geared up for 10+ years of war no problemo.
 
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