The new cold war with China

[dicknixon72]

From the actual memo, this stood out to me...

 

[murphykj930]

The Dutch and Japanese join sanctions.

 

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

This idiotic story about the "Chinese spy balloon" makes me sick. It's warmongering tripe of the lowest level, far dumber than the Kuwait incubator babies, Iraqi WMDs and the Libyan Viagra rape squads.

Shame on Tucker Carlson for promoting this nonsense. He's sold out completely. Sad!

 

[paternos]

The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has published a very important document yesterday. Something so clear outlining the full US policy.

US Hegemony and Its Perils

It's one of the clearest pieces of political analysis on the Jewish/US empire I have seen in a long time by country. This might also be a declaration to war. One thing is sure, the genie is out of the bottle.

A must read.

Since becoming the world's most powerful country after the two world wars and the Cold War, the United States has acted more boldly to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries, pursue, maintain and abuse hegemony, advance subversion and infiltration, and willfully wage wars, bringing harm to the international community.

The United States has developed a hegemonic playbook to stage "color revolutions," instigate regional disputes, and even directly launch wars under the guise of promoting democracy, freedom and human rights. Clinging to the Cold War mentality, the United States has ramped up bloc politics and stoked conflict and confrontation. It has overstretched the concept of national security, abused export controls and forced unilateral sanctions upon others. It has taken a selective approach to international law and rules, utilizing or discarding them as it sees fit, and has sought to impose rules that serve its own interests in the name of upholding a "rules-based international order."

After World War II, the wars either provoked or launched by the United States included the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, the Kosovo War, the War in Afghanistan, the Iraq War, the Libyan War and the Syrian War, abusing its military hegemony to pave the way for expansionist objectives. In recent years, the U.S. average annual military budget has exceeded 700 billion U.S. dollars, accounting for 40 percent of the world's total, more than the 15 countries behind it combined. The United States has about 800 overseas military bases, with 173,000 troops deployed in 159 countries.

The United States enjoyed exorbitant privilege and deficit without tears created by its dollar, and used the worthless paper note to plunder the resources and factories of other nations.

The United States uses misinformation as a spear to attack other countries, and has built an industrial chain around it: there are groups and individuals making up stories, and peddling them worldwide to mislead public opinion with the support of nearly limitless financial resources.

Shocking..

 

[Thomas More]

The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has published a very important document yesterday. Something so clear outlining the full US policy.

US Hegemony and Its Perils

It's one of the clearest pieces of political analysis on the Jewish/US empire I have seen in a long time by country. This might also be a declaration to war. One thing is sure, the genie is out of the bottle.

A must read.










Shocking..

This is an interesting analysis. They are very critical of US practices going all the way back to 1776.

In particular, it is interesting because China has published this. Putin has made similar points about the current role of US in the world today, but if you look at the period going back to 1776, Russia was engaged in an almost continuous series of conquests and expansions during that time. It was during this period that most of the territory of the Soviet Union was conquered. While the European powers had to go overseas to conquer territories, Russia was busy conquering Siberia, Central Asia, lands around the Black Sea, and lands stretching West into Central Europe.

Furthermore, the Soviet Union was quite aggressive and militaristic in the 20th century, seeking to convert the whole world to communism, preferably under the their control. They also supported and instigated armed conflicts in numerous third world nations, as a proxy war against the US and Western European countries.

Since the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia has mostly tried to cooperate with the international community. I do think the current war is due to the US and NATO provoking Russia to the point they had no choice but to react. The US is the aggressor in the current situation. However, Russia has been the aggressor quite often over the same years that the US has existed.

It's interesting to see now that China is making this case, since they were weak over the same period, and they were the victim of the great powers, including both Russia and the US. This report from the Chinese MFA is making more than a little spin on things. During most of the history they are discussing, the US military and imperialist adventures were matched by all the other great powers. Everybody was doing it, so the US was not unique in its actions. It's only in the post cold war era that you can make any legitimate claim that the US is being uniquely aggressive in comparison to the peace loving nation of China and the rest of the international community.

 

[paternos]

This is an interesting analysis. They are very critical of US practices going all the way back to 1776.

In particular, it is interesting because China has published this. Putin has made similar points about the current role of US in the world today, but if you look at the period going back to 1776, Russia was engaged in an almost continuous series of conquests and expansions during that time. It was during this period that most of the territory of the Soviet Union was conquered. While the European powers had to go overseas to conquer territories, Russia was busy conquering Siberia, Central Asia, lands around the Black Sea, and lands stretching West into Central Europe.

Furthermore, the Soviet Union was quite aggressive and militaristic in the 20th century, seeking to convert the whole world to communism, preferably under the their control. They also supported and instigated armed conflicts in numerous third world nations, as a proxy war against the US and Western European countries.

Since the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia has mostly tried to cooperate with the international community. I do think the current war is due to the US and NATO provoking Russia to the point they had no choice but to react. The US is the aggressor in the current situation. However, Russia has been the aggressor quite often over the same years that the US has existed.

It's interesting to see now that China is making this case, since they were weak over the same period, and they were the victim of the great powers, including both Russia and the US. This report from the Chinese MFA is making more than a little spin on things. During most of the history they are discussing, the US military and imperialist adventures were matched by all the other great powers. Everybody was doing it, so the US was not unique in its actions. It's only in the post cold war era that you can make any legitimate claim that the US is being uniquely aggressive in comparison to the peace loving nation of China and the rest of the international community.

Indeed the interesting thing is that China publishes this themselves. A very critical piece on the US, I haven't seen that before.


I think they are quite accurate with 1776; The US has seen a meteoric rise to power driven by high productivity.

Ray Dalio Commentary- The Changing World Order: The Big Cycles Over the Last 500 Years

From the Bridewater Associates founder's LinkedIn blog Continue reading...

finance.yahoo.com

Post 1960 the US empire went in decline and traded raw productivity (oil, cars, any good) for parasitism.

Trade balance graph.


It's interesting how they outline the dollar, and how the US is profiting from owning the world currency. (It also shows China wants the dollar dominance to stop)

I think the US is the bully and is just trying to stop any rising power (and they have done effectively)
They stopped Germany, they stopped Japan, they stopped the soviet union.

 

[murphykj930]

What do you get when China holds the reins? Well, they wouldn’t be able to hold the reins in the first place.

We complain about the States monitoring us, but China openly does it, and they’re proud of it. USA print lots of money, but China prints three times more than USA.

They are a proud surveillance state. Natural resources? None. They can’t help Europeans with their gas shortage. But the US can.

And they are actual soy boys. The biggest importers of soy, by far. They love their tofu.

All the pining for communist powers to rule the planet here… I’m concerned.

 

[SpyofMoses]

Great points have been made about this document so far. When i see stuff like this, I wonder two things:
First, are there Chinese out there who want to avoid war with Americans at all? As in, ordinary citizens over there who can see America's government and American people as two separate things? I graduated high school with this sense of 'China' as this communist enemy. I later went on to read more about their history and some westerner's travels out there and now I just think the CCP is as bad as Globohomo, albeit ruining things for ordinary people through different means of control. Are there any Chinese ctitizens who might feel the same way? Or do they all just hate us from the other side of the world, as my teachers and media seem to want me to do to them in kind?

Second, and less personally, are they waiting for us to stretch ourselves thin on the Ukrainian front? Waiting for the perfect moment to strike Taiwan(or anywhere in the pacific, for that matter) as the US is drowning in turmoil on its own soil and other matters abroad? Next federal election year or shortly thereafter seem like the best time to do it.

As for China striking against America, it is too easy for me to imagine that they're ramping up their anti-America rhetoric in preparation for this. I've been watching CCTV lately to get a feel for spoken Mandarin. There is an obvious bias in that anything making China look strong and America look weak gets air time. I have also seen an almost daily account of the American military exploits. This is mostly in Ukraine and the Pacific. Hence why I think they would start there. Apparently, America, Japan, S. Korea and Germany are all doing drills over there with increasing manpower/frequency. But of course, I hear from a Japanese coworker that China is also doing drills in the Pacific with increasing manpower/frequency. It seems too late to cling to the ideal of "can't we all just get along?"



美在亚太动作频频将有怎样的战略布局？
What kind of strategic layout will the United States have when it frequently moves in the Asia-Pacific?

This report from the Chinese MFA is making more than a little spin on things.

It certainly is, but I also see just enough truth to some of their criticisms that it's easy to imagine the rest of the world just going "well, yeah! I've got a bone to pick with America about that, too!" People with that perspective might be disappointed in the future if/when China is the big brother of the world and starts throwing it's own weight around...

 

[Yeagerist]

Great points have been made about this document so far. When i see stuff like this, I wonder two things:
First, are there Chinese out there who want to avoid war with Americans at all? As in, ordinary citizens over there who can see America's government and American people as two separate things? I graduated high school with this sense of 'China' as this communist enemy. I later went on to read more about their history and some westerner's travels out there and now I just think the CCP is as bad as Globohomo, albeit ruining things for ordinary people through different means of control. Are there any Chinese ctitizens who might feel the same way? Or do they all just hate us from the other side of the world, as my teachers and media seem to want me to do to them in kind?

Based on videos from pro-China expat YouTubers, yeah I've seen many Chinese netizens already returning the hostility that Westerners gave them. And they generally don't care about the liberal vs conservative nuance or any distinction between the US government and the American people. In the eyes of the average Mainland Chinese, the Trump-voting populist who desires a white-only ethnostate in America is one and the same with the brainwashed SJW listening to Vox or VICE's hit pieces against China.

But don't make the mistake of projecting your Western-centric view on how the CCP runs Chinese society. At this point, with the Party being nearly 80 years in power, one must expect that young Chinese people just treat Communist imagery as part of their national identity. And while I certainly condemn the atrocities of Mao, I find that the use of the phrase "CCP" in certain contexts to be frankly cringe and reductionist. It's like referring to Americans as "Freemasons" or "Deists" or "Jews"

Second, and less personally, are they waiting for us to stretch ourselves thin on the Ukrainian front? Waiting for the perfect moment to strike Taiwan(or anywhere in the pacific, for that matter) as the US is drowning in turmoil on its own soil and other matters abroad? Next federal election year or shortly thereafter seem like the best time to do it.

I shake my head at everybody always overlooking the actions of the US to deliberately provoke a proxy war in Taiwan. That island is for all intents and purposes already integrated to the Mainland economically, with people on both sides maintaining their own interpretation of the status quo over which "China" is the legitimate China. The Taiwanese obviously value their independence and especially their right to vote, but they knew that a status of a hot war with the PRC will end badly for them. The results of the Taiwanese midterms a few months ago are proof that they have enough of US legislators making visits to Tsai Ing-wen.

It's the warmongers at Washington that have little regard for Chinese lives, as usual, and they're using all their propaganda power to put the blame on China. The Western propaganda machine pushes this conspiracy theory that China and Russia are closely planning together to conquer both Ukraine and Taiwan, and the fact that normies wholeheartedly fall for this is proof of how successful those psyops are over the decades.

 

[murphykj930]

 

[eL-JJ]

 

[Caduceus]

The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has published a very important document yesterday. Something so clear outlining the full US policy.

US Hegemony and Its Perils

It's one of the clearest pieces of political analysis on the Jewish/US empire I have seen in a long time by country. This might also be a declaration to war. One thing is sure, the genie is out of the bottle.

A must read.










Shocking..

Everything China is saying is true.

However, the big problem is China does not offer a viable alternative system of government for people or countries who want to escape the faggot globohomo system. China's treatment of its own people during the last 3 years of the covid/coronavirus fiasco and president Xi's purge of all moderate thinkers from the communists in charge, has been nothing short of a full return to the harsh dictatorial conditions that existed in China under Mao.

As it stands, Russia is the only country offering a viable alternative system to demon system that rules over most of us.

 

[paternos]

Everything China is saying is true.

However, the big problem is China does not offer a viable alternative system of government for people or countries who want to escape the faggot globohomo system. China's treatment of its own people during the last 3 years of the covid/coronavirus fiasco and president Xi's purge of all moderate thinkers from the communists in charge, has been nothing short of a full return to the harsh dictatorial conditions that existed in China under Mao.

As it stands, Russia is the only country offering a viable alternative system to demon system that rules over most of us.

I tend to agree with you.

Though some time ago I spoke to a Chinese priest who now is a missionary in my country. No joke. We are a missionary region now because there aren't enough men joining the priesthood. He told me on the size and growth of Catholicism in China.

In his parish there every morning 1500 people join the 6am mass. It's an image I never had in mind but it's true.



In the west we live under antichristian rule. Which only allows the preaching of baby murder in the womb, a society that doesn't want babies and has a birtrate below replacement is a deathcult.

 

[Yeagerist]

Everything China is saying is true.

However, the big problem is China does not offer a viable alternative system of government for people or countries who want to escape the faggot globohomo system. China's treatment of its own people during the last 3 years of the covid/coronavirus fiasco and president Xi's purge of all moderate thinkers from the communists in charge, has been nothing short of a full return to the harsh dictatorial conditions that existed in China under Mao.

As it stands, Russia is the only country offering a viable alternative system to demon system that rules over most of us.

In the end, we're faced with a need to make a value judgement regarding which power is the lesser evil. Would you rather choose to be forbidden to criticize Xi Jinping and the CCP, or get cancelled and doxxed for saying that there are only two genders or that white people need to avoid black criminals? Would you rather choose to have no right to vote at all, or vote knowing that the Democrats will rig the election either way or whichever European Prime Minister gets elected, ends up as a WEF puppet?

In my perspective, Mainland China no longer implements Communism as we know it, after the failures of the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward, but the CCP managed to transition itself into an oligarchic one-party system while arguably raising China's economy, living standards and technological innovation. At least with Xi, we know that he is the lone guy at the top. But with Biden, anyone with a brain knows that he (and almost all elected federal officials) are ultimately controlled by secluded vested interests.

One can theoretically keep his autocratic position and still give freedoms to the people like lifting the Covid mandates/lockdowns. On the other hand, we see a steady erosion of both civil liberties and standards of living in the so-called democratic West. The masses of normies have been conditioned to view ballot casting as the one and only means of determining "freedom" and "rights."

 

[paternos]

In the end, we're faced with a need to make a value judgement regarding which power is the lesser evil. Would you rather choose to be forbidden to criticize Xi Jinping and the CCP, or get cancelled and doxxed for saying that there are only two genders or that white people need to avoid black criminals? Would you rather choose to have no right to vote at all, or vote knowing that the Democrats will rig the election either way or whichever European Prime Minister gets elected, ends up as a WEF puppet?

In my perspective, Mainland China no longer implements Communism as we know it, after the failures of the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward, but the CCP managed to transition itself into an oligarchic one-party system while arguably raising China's economy, living standards and technological innovation. At least with Xi, we know that he is the lone guy at the top. But with Biden, anyone with a brain knows that he (and almost all elected federal officials) are ultimately controlled by secluded vested interests.

One can theoretically keep his autocratic position and still give freedoms to the people like lifting the Covid mandates/lockdowns. On the other hand, we see a steady erosion of both civil liberties and standards of living in the so-called democratic West. The masses of normies have been conditioned to view ballot casting as the one and only means of determining "freedom" and "rights."

Totally agree.

It's choosing between which form of totalitarian rule. At least from what I understand it's out in the open in China. What is allowed and what is not allowed. What is in line with the state and what is not.

Maybe it's just the trauma of living in Europe where I was lied to so many years. About good and bad. About freedom. And democracy. Where I even believed it. I'm so fully done with this lying and deceiving elite I would choose an openly sadistic dictator 10 times more likely above what I have here.

In the west they make us believe in freedom, democracy, freedom of press, human rights, womens rights, the environment; which in the end just comes down to doing what the Jews want us to do.

But with Biden, anyone with a brain knows that he (and almost all elected federal officials) are ultimately controlled by secluded vested interests.

And in 4 years we get a new puppet, new hopes, and the same stuff again.

 

[Elipe]

In the end, we're faced with a need to make a value judgement regarding which power is the lesser evil. Would you rather choose to be forbidden to criticize Xi Jinping and the CCP, or get cancelled and doxxed for saying that there are only two genders or that white people need to avoid black criminals? Would you rather choose to have no right to vote at all, or vote knowing that the Democrats will rig the election either way or whichever European Prime Minister gets elected, ends up as a WEF puppet?

In my perspective, Mainland China no longer implements Communism as we know it, after the failures of the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward, but the CCP managed to transition itself into an oligarchic one-party system while arguably raising China's economy, living standards and technological innovation. At least with Xi, we know that he is the lone guy at the top. But with Biden, anyone with a brain knows that he (and almost all elected federal officials) are ultimately controlled by secluded vested interests.

One can theoretically keep his autocratic position and still give freedoms to the people like lifting the Covid mandates/lockdowns. On the other hand, we see a steady erosion of both civil liberties and standards of living in the so-called democratic West. The masses of normies have been conditioned to view ballot casting as the one and only means of determining "freedom" and "rights."

As C.S. Lewis says, the brutal despot is at least condemned by his own conscience and gives the cruelty a rest now and then. The moral busybody tyrant (leftists, etc.) never lets his cruelty rest for he does so with the full blessing of his conscience.

 

[Thomas More]

All of these regimes have to be judged in terms of how Christian they are. That's the only standard that matters. None of the regimes being discussed is actually good. The US and EU have clearly become overtly Satanic. They are rapidly running themselves into the ground. They are currently the worst.

China may have Christian citizens among them, but the government is not Christian. It is somewhat more righteous than the West, but it is still totalitarian and cruel. They are only barely better than the West, but still bad.

Russia pays some respect and support to the Church and to Christian values generally, so they are the best currently, but there is still lots of corruption in Russia society. Putin seems fairly righteous, but he is still a cynical power player as well. It is hard to go so far as to say the Russian government is righteous, although they are the closest.

I don't see that we can ever expect a truly righteous government in this world, so we have to endure bad government no matter what. Fortunately Christ is our King, and he will triumph in the end.

 

[Caduceus]

I was on China's side until they started yanking people out of their homes and putting them in concentration camps, separating children from parents in these camps, walling people into apartment blocks for months on end, cutting up passports of their own nationals on arrival back in China, making people take the nose covid test every single week of the year, and instantly cremating relatives who died of covid in camps and hospitals with no chance for relatives to see the bodies of their loved ones.

Anyone defending China's behaviour, has not been paying attention what has been going on there the last 3 years.

 

[paternos]

I was on China's side until they started yanking people out of their homes and putting them in concentration camps, separating children from parents in these camps, walling people into apartment blocks for months on end, cutting up passports of their own nationals on arrival back in China, making people take the nose covid test every single week of the year, and instantly cremating relatives who died of covid in camps and hospitals with no chance for relatives to see the bodies of their loved ones.

Anyone defending China's behaviour, has not been paying attention what has been going on there the last 3 years.

I agree as well. Maybe it's just the extend of which the states control our minds, thoughts and daily life.

Chinese Communism, USSR Communism and Jewish Communism (which we have in the west) are all very similarly looking brothers. Mega state interference in and high control of the personal lives of people. Large bureaucracies. Strong propaganda. And anti-Christian.

I wouldn't be surprised our future is more in the less "developed" countries.


And as said by @Thomas More

I don't see that we can ever expect a truly righteous government in this world, so we have to endure bad government no matter what. Fortunately Christ is our King, and he will triumph in the end.

Think this is very true.

 

[8ball]

You dont have to like China to support them against the US. Again they are not against us, they are against the elite and any nation or individual that makes our elite wake up in the middle of the night is worthy of support.

You dont have to want to live in China, they are not forcing us to do that, they are giving the world a second option and by doing that they are stalling and in some places overturning the ((satanic)) expansion coordinated by the ((US)).

Its pretty clear this is a good thing.