The Next Agenda: HIV Stigma

[Fortis]

That may all be true, but how can one say "I hope they never cure X Disease?" That in undeniably toxic. Riddle me that.

 

[GlobalMan]

I walk past a guy everyday in Manhattan. He's sitting on the sidewalk panhandling with a sign that says hiv+ and homeless. He can't be more that 35ish white male. I think he genuinely has. He's not the typical homeless guy. Looks like he's fairly intelligent. Just had some bad luck.

I don't know how to really feel about it. :huh:

Shit like that pisses me off. What was wrong with him just writing 'homeless' alone as a way to garner sympathy. Instead he wanted to up the ante with HIV. Its the same with homeless people that have pets to gain more sympathy. Hey, maybe if you didn't have to spend money and time feeding your animal you'd be in a better situation, and I might give you something.

Who am I kidding, no I wouldn't. I come across too many that have been asking for just a few cents to get a bus ticket... for a year

 

[Medic42]

I'm honestly not that scared of HIV. I don't take IV drugs and I don't sleep with men. I've touched a ton of people with HIV and Hep C and so far I'm clean. It's not really something I go out of my way to do but I don't lose sleep over it.

 

[blacknwhitespade]

I'm honestly not that scared of HIV. I don't take IV drugs and I don't sleep with men. I've touched a ton of people with HIV and Hep C and so far I'm clean. It's not really something I go out of my way to do but I don't lose sleep over it.

Likewise. I did socially interactive missionary work in South Africa for 30 days in an area where 40% of the population was HIV positive. Had myself tested 6 months after my return to the US and was clean as a whistle. If you're a straight, sober man and you don't do anal (at least not with coke addicts), your chances of contracting HIV-AIDS are virtually zero. Liberals and Conservatives alike pushed the AIDS hysteria to level 10 in the 80s/early 90s, wouldn't be surprised if the SJWs and TradCons joined forces again to push a re-packaged "anyone can get AIDS" agenda today.

 

[Bad Hussar]

I'm honestly not that scared of HIV. I don't take IV drugs and I don't sleep with men. I've touched a ton of people with HIV and Hep C and so far I'm clean. It's not really something I go out of my way to do but I don't lose sleep over it.

Likewise. I did socially interactive missionary work in South Africa for 30 days in an area where 40% of the population was HIV positive. Had myself tested 6 months after my return to the US and was clean as a whistle. If you're a straight, sober man and you don't do anal (at least not with coke addicts), you're chances of contracting HIV-AIDS are virtually zero. Liberals and Conservatives alike pushed the AIDS hysteria to level 10 in the 80s/early 90s, wouldn't be surprised if the SJWs and TradCons joined forces again to push a re-packaged "anyone can get AIDS" agenda today.

What is your opinion of Aids statistics in "Sub-Saharan" Africa, especially in Southern Africa? I fully understand that HIV has a diagnostic criteria and presumably this criteria is equally applied wherever in the world people try to establish HIV prevalence. But I have problems...

Male homosexuality, or more broadly "Men who have Sex with Men", and intravenous drug use are no more prevalent in Southern Africa than anywhere else in the world. So why are HIV rates in Southern Africa orders of magnitude higher than, really, anywhere else at all? The way HIV is explained in medical circles really means that they consider it a reliable indicator of "slutiness" in whatever group is being measured. While they obviously don't state this directly since it is politically incorrect/impolite, I don't see how one could reach a different conclusion. So why is Southern Africa supposedly at the centre of the epidemic?

People have come up with all sorts of exotic explanations such as the supposed African practice of "dry sex" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_sex), or weird theories about eating monkeys and what not. I really don't buy it. Not that I support him completely, but I understand why the previous South African president, Thabo Mbeki, made a big stink about mainstream HIV statistics and medical practices. Got himself into massive trouble internationally and was derided as a "Quack", "Aids Denier" etc. by the New York Times and others. Mainstream (Western) science are basically saying that Sub-Saharan Africans, especially those from Southern Africa, are the worlds biggest sluts. From a local perspective it just seems ridiculous. With homosexual men you can buy the "sluttiness" argument for the obvious reason that you are dealing with two male sex drives and brains. So many homosexual men have enormous numbers of partners. Also, anal sex is much more likely to lead to infection. But the general heterosexual black population in Southern Africa is not having the kind of massive multi-partner sex that would lead to HIV spreading as fast as it supposedly has.

I have no answers, obviously, but the whole situation has always seemed weird to me. As far as I know no scientist has come up with a non-ridiculous explanation for the prevalence of HIV at such high rates in the heterosexual black population in Southern Africa.