The NFL is dying

budoslavic

Owl
Gold Member
NFL Commissioner Goodell predicts full stadiums for all 32 teams this fall.

LMAO...no one cares anymore. NFL is done. And nobody is interested in watching wokism instead of games.







 
I'm stunned that they still get millions of viewers instead of zero.
It really is amazing that as obviously bad as things are, that so many men are still drawn into these fake tribes of NFL fandom. When I see it, it is like a time warp back to the 1990's. Wait, you guys still think things are good enough to worry about your favorite NFL team, that feels very nostalgic.

Viewership is dropping off, but there are still millions of men who swear allegiance to an NFL tribe and seem to think their victory will make their life better.

One thing the NFL does have going for them that as more and more men quit watching, they are able to replace these viewers with women trying desperately to fit into our dysfunctional society and then immigrants/2nd generation who think NFL viewership is the tip top of US culture and want to partake even if they don't know the rules or strategy.
 
I will add besides the PC culture taking over football there is widespread nerdiness that fantasy football has brought to the sport. People using their smartphones to check up on how their players for their "imaginary" football team are doing and barely watching a live game because they are constantly monitoring their player in other games.



I think if somebody asks me about fantasy football or talks about fantasy football I will tell them "I am too busy playing with my imaginary unicorn to worry about fantasy football."

I have never once in my life watched or attended a football game, not once. I was into baseball as a child in the early-mid 1990s but I left that behind by the late 1990s. The idol worship of athletes began to disgust me as I reached about age 12-13 and began to realize the futility and pointlessness of being a paying spectator to some other guy's accomplishments.
 

monsquid

Kingfisher
The idol worship of athletes began to disgust me as I reached about age 12-13 and began to realize the futility and pointlessness of being a paying spectator to some other guy's accomplishments.
Could not have said it better. It's also sad that the black community uses athletes as role models for children. Instead of focusing on education, hard work, and practical betterment children are left chasing school sports. Few realize that less than 1% go on to play in college and fewer still get to make it to pro. Even making pro is risky because you are one injury or scanadal away from losing your career and ending up with no skills or education.
 
Could not have said it better. It's also sad that the black community uses athletes as role models for children. Instead of focusing on education, hard work, and practical betterment children are left chasing school sports. Few realize that less than 1% go on to play in college and fewer still get to make it to pro. Even making pro is risky because you are one injury or scanadal away from losing your career and ending up with no skills or education.


Usually the people who most zealously follow sports as spectators are the most out-of-shape lethargic couch potatoes who aren't capable of having any of their own physical accomplishments.

I would rather hike than watch others hike, spar boxing than watch others box, grapple than watch others grapple, bicycle than watch others bicycle, and shoot than watch others shoot. Life is too important and too short to spend it as a spectator to others doing things that we can, and should, go do ourselves.
 

monsquid

Kingfisher
Usually the people who most zealously follow sports as spectators are the most out-of-shape lethargic couch potatoes who aren't capable of having any of their own physical accomplishments.

I would rather hike than watch others hike, spar boxing than watch others box, grapple than watch others grapple, bicycle than watch others bicycle, and shoot than watch others shoot. Life is too important and too short to spend it as a spectator to others doing things that we can, and should, go do ourselves.
It's funny, I was worked with a few former division 1 offensive line guys in my twenties and none of them watched football or pro sports. They said that playing college football drained all the fun from football. For them it was just a way to pay for school. The injuries they suffered, they will live with for the rest of their lives.
 
It's funny, I was worked with a few former division 1 offensive line guys in my twenties and none of them watched football or pro sports. They said that playing college football drained all the fun from football. For them it was just a way to pay for school. The injuries they suffered, they will live with for the rest of their lives.

It is a general principle of reality, existence, and human nature. People who have their own accomplishments tend not to feel drawn to make time to basing their life around spectating the accomplishments of others.

I know almost nothing about celebrity lives, lifestyles, gossip, drama, relationships, I often tell people, "I have my own life, it is fulfilling, it is busy, I have purpose, I don't get into the pop culture celebrity stuff because that is just pig-trough slop which serves as a distraction for commoners."

Sometimes I tell people, "do you think that pretentious Hollywood bitch cares that you follow so closely which dresses she wears to which events? If you get hurt and miss a mortgage payment is she going to pay it for you?"

It is a weak person, with an inadequate personality, who focuses their life on following the personalities of others. I encourage to build a life worth living instead of spending [wasting] their life chasing after the lifestyles of others and trying to live vicariously via spectating with others.


Some people have assumed I must like legal dramas, legal shows, etc. I have to explain, "they aren't realistic and I don't want to engage in real law practice all day and the watch distorted fictional dramatized law practice on TV."
 
The MLB's been joining in on the race to woke-broke.

Professional sports are suffering from the cancer of convergence, or at least traditionally Western ones. Good riddance to sportsball.

I was into baseball as a child in the early-mid 1990s but I left that behind by the late 1990s.

I had you pegged as older than me. I'm from a family of lawyers, though, so maybe that has some latent impact on my capacity to grok you, and therefore skew your age.
 

Athanasius

Pelican
It's funny, I was worked with a few former division 1 offensive line guys in my twenties and none of them watched football or pro sports. They said that playing college football drained all the fun from football. For them it was just a way to pay for school. The injuries they suffered, they will live with for the rest of their lives.

One of the things that got me out of watching sportsball was the recognition that I was more invested in, and cared more about the result, than the players themselves. To them, it was just another game. With the NBA, star players would get energized to play against certain other players due to pride, or because there was a famous rapper in attendance, or because a fan yelled at them. It was never due to playing for their city. Most of them didn't live in my city and were just there playing for the highest dollar before they eventually exited to a warmer or more fashionable town. And what did I have in common with these people? Nothing. Why was I wasting time being invested in their ego drama?

The killing blow, though, was realizing that I was contributing to the extortion of cities by supporting this stuff, which became very clear about 5 years ago when NFL and NBA threats led the charge against RFRA in Indiana and transgenderism in NC. Pro leagues are just another globalist weapon in the culture war, working to threaten representative government (such as MLB is doing now in Georgia) and hoovering up money that will be used against whites and conservatives. College football and basketball (and bands/fight songs) are the only reason universities, long the tip of the spear for globalist propaganda, retain a positive image among the majority of people. I had to let these things go.
 

monsquid

Kingfisher
One of the things that got me out of watching sportsball was the recognition that I was more invested in, and cared more about the result, than the players themselves. To them, it was just another game.
Players have no loyalty to teams, leagues, or cities. But the masses pedestalize players or teams like it's their religion. When I was living in California I knew a Mexican electrician who was a die hard Raiders fan (they are their own kind of crazy.) His wife had the Raiders logo tattooed on her left breast.
 

Blade Runner

Pelican
The leagues could all go under for all I care at this point, but we all know that won't happen until the next legit economic crisis. I won't support them at all, just watch streams or if it's on at a bar or whatever. Gambling on the games was the only way most of this crap was tolerable in the first place, let's just be honest here.
 
Sportsball is dead. I used to really enjoy going to a minor league baseball game on a summer evening. $5 ticket, beers, hanging out with family and friends it was awesome. Now I fear even the minor leagues are totally cucked. I am not going to wear a diaper on my face and listen to nonsense when I am supposed to be just enjoying the moment with people I like.
 

Athanasius

Pelican
Players have no loyalty to teams, leagues, or cities. But the masses pedestalize players or teams like it's their religion. When I was living in California I knew a Mexican electrician who was a die hard Raiders fan (they are their own kind of crazy.) His wife had the Raiders logo tattooed on her left breast.

I'm convinced that it was the potent marketing of the Rozelle-era NFL films that made the league blow up into a powerhouse and why that spell has been so powerful compared to other leagues. You'd watch an average game on Sunday and within a few days it was made into epic, slow motion highlights with memorable music. It made the games and the people involved seem vital and larger than life. The players were also more remote and less known then before the age of social media and ESPN, so there was more mystery there.

It's hard to explain for those who didn't experience it, but watch about 1 minute of this, starting at the 11:00 mark, for an idea.


There was the classic Monday Night Football orchestra theme and the "Over the Hill Gang" theme.

We haven't even started on the old John Facenda-narrated NFL films like The Ice Bowl ("...the frozen tundra"). It was highly effective stuff. It's still enjoyable to the music again even though I no longer care about sportsball.
 
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stugatz

Pelican
Someone should maybe write a thread on woke baseball, but I'm very upset about how the MLB has seemed to be going down the same path lately.

I'd love to see if there's a way I can follow the Brewers over pirated radio or something - I'm not going to give up following baseball, but if I ever watch, I'll be doing it indirectly (at a sports bar or something). I just don't want to throw them cash or click until they let up on this. (Or until they die - which is fine with me too, baseball isn't really what it used to be and I can't really make myself watch more than one game a week at most.)
 
Someone should maybe write a thread on woke baseball, but I'm very upset about how the MLB has seemed to be going down the same path lately.

I'd love to see if there's a way I can follow the Brewers over pirated radio or something - I'm not going to give up following baseball, but if I ever watch, I'll be doing it indirectly (at a sports bar or something). I just don't want to throw them cash or click until they let up on this. (Or until they die - which is fine with me too, baseball isn't really what it used to be and I can't really make myself watch more than one game a week at most.)
I really enjoyed baseball growing up, and I still really like the sport. After all the BLM crap they had opening the season last year, I did not watch a single game. Having a 60-game season which started in July and having expanded playoffs didn't exactly do much persuade me otherwise. I probably would have started following again a little bit this year, but this whole thing with moving the All-Star Game from Atlanta makes me sick, and I refuse to give an organization that supports such bullshit my money in any way. And even politics aside, they are making some really stupid decisions with how they are running the league. I understand that at this point baseball is really only America's national past time in name only, but I suppose that's all the more reason for leftists to try and ruin it.
 
Someone should maybe write a thread on woke baseball, but I'm very upset about how the MLB has seemed to be going down the same path lately.

I'd love to see if there's a way I can follow the Brewers over pirated radio or something - I'm not going to give up following baseball, but if I ever watch, I'll be doing it indirectly (at a sports bar or something). I just don't want to throw them cash or click until they let up on this. (Or until they die - which is fine with me too, baseball isn't really what it used to be and I can't really make myself watch more than one game a week at most.)
All these corporations, whether Coca-Cola or MLB or NASCAR, depend on usury. The bank tells them what to do and they do it.

I am surprised it has taken this long, but it appears they are all going in on globo-homo and there is no looking back.
 

stugatz

Pelican
I love baseball more as a national cultural pasttime. I don’t necessarily crave it like I do a good movie or music album. I can cut it out of my life without much pain.

I liked getting into it recently, though, especially in 2018 when the Brewers nearly made it to the World Series. I may channel that sportsball interest into something I do myself, like finally picking a martial art.
 

Hermetic Seal

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I still enjoy baseball but like others here I'm disgusted by MLB's actions - capitulating to BLM last year and the manipulative nonsense surrounding Atlanta's All-Star Game. I resolved last summer that I was never going to give MLB another cent and while I won't totally rule out going to the occasional game I won't buy any more merchandise or pay for their services.

These are lesser issues in the grand scheme of things, but the way the swept rampant rule-breaking under the rug by scapegoating Houston and giving Boston a slap on the wrist (and making sure the Yankees are protected) was also disgusting, as was their irresponsible behavior around a 2020 season that probably shouldn't have happened and the hasty "summer training" that resulted in tons of injuries across the league as players who weren't physically ready (especially pitchers) were thrown into games too early.

If you want to watch games they're free on Bilasport and it often works better than MLB's own crappy services.

I tend to agree that it's better to play a sport than watch other people do it - but it depends on the sport. Anybody can play basketball or soccer with a court/field and a few friends, but baseball is incredibly tough and logistically intensive. The easygoing pace and relaxed atmosphere make it a fun way to hang out with friends or family - but increasingly, doing it on a local level looks like a better option.
 

MajorStyles

Pelican
Going to minor-league versions of the respective sports might be a viable option. However, I'm not sure I want to wear a face pamper for three hours at a smaller venue, cautiously waiting for a security gaurd to order me to pull a mask up over my nose. It takes the enjoyment out of the experience which has, at least for me, been a way to escape reality for a few hours.

I think that live sports viewership might be temporarily dead: unless something drastic changes. My prediction is that this change would be ushered in by financial greed as opposed to moral reasoning.
 
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