The NoPorn / NoFap Thread - For Those Who're Serious

R.G.Camara

Kingfisher
I think this is telling. I don't think we can compare a substance addiction to the drive to have sex. We are given that drive to motivate us to form families and procreate. That won't, and shouldn't go away.

On the other hand, a pornography addiction is similar to drugs. The urges to watch porn DO go away, but are replaced with healthy thoughts of the desire to procreate with a woman.

I haven't watch porn in years, but I do suffer from fantasizing about women I am texting with online in a sexual manner.

Men are very naturally addicted to the orgasm. God and nature designed us that way, so that we would procreate and work extremely hard to marry and procreate, thus making us build societies.

Men are, in a sense, born addicted to the orgasm.

Deliberate orgasm outside of sexual congress with your wife to procreate IS thus unhealthy, very quickly causes addiction. Because orgasm is a natural addiction all men share, any shortcuts to it will quickly become default methods. Which is why it was stressed for generations not to masturbate at all, and to avoid any sexual contact outside of the marriage bed.

Pornography and masturbation are addictive because they are shortcuts to the orgasmic high men chase.

Furthermore, many men become hardcore addicted to certain methods and imagery from the first few times they orgasm---it becomes imprinted upon them. This imprinting should've occurred with their wives, but these days almost all western men orgasm many times before marriage, so wrong things get imprinted upon them.

Gay men, for example, become addicted to male-penis and/or anal-insertion caused orgasm, likely because a high percentage of them report being sexually molested by males in such a way when they were children. It's a strong fetish. But what makes it worse is their attempts to repeat this history when they become adults.

I can recall my early masturbation to certain scantily dressed women in magazines, and the first few pornographic films I masturbated to, and almost all of these have caused me to this day, decades later, to have strong sexual fantasies that recreate those images and scenarios, over and above almost all other pornography or fantasies.

Thus, because we are born addicted to the orgasm, the male orgasm is a dangerous destructor of male lives if abused early.
 
Every time I quit I cancel out my progress. I feel like I'm spent after 5 go's. It's been part of my life longer than weed and booze, which I've largely thrown to the wayside.

The thing is I was and am still socially isolated. There's little incentive, as if I'm suffering for nothing, especially since all avenues to self-improvement have been compromised. I have to force myself to go out for coffee so that I'll be somewhat active on my bicycle (no car).

I realize my recent no fap efforts have been an attempt to increase my libido and testosterone to overcompensate against better off guys, as I still harbor some envy towards guys with women.

In faith, I'm at odds over the things I want in life, even if it's just to be loved and to have a better life. I would sellout in a heartbeat if anyone was buying. I'm compromised when I look to God.
 

infowarrior1

Hummingbird
Every time I quit I cancel out my progress. I feel like I'm spent after 5 go's. It's been part of my life longer than weed and booze, which I've largely thrown to the wayside.

The thing is I was and am still socially isolated. There's little incentive, as if I'm suffering for nothing, especially since all avenues to self-improvement have been compromised. I have to force myself to go out for coffee so that I'll be somewhat active on my bicycle (no car).


I realize my recent no fap efforts have been an attempt to increase my libido and testosterone to overcompensate against better off guys, as I still harbor some envy towards guys with women.

In faith, I'm at odds over the things I want in life, even if it's just to be loved and to have a better life. I would sellout in a heartbeat if anyone was buying. I'm compromised when I look to God.

The longer you quit the more lessons you learn and the more easier it gets. Here is a website if you have not heard of it already
yourbrainonporn.com

There are others who have failed again and again. But every time they got better at abstinence. Do not give up and increase the activities you do outside.

The more exercise you do the more endorphins you release. And the better you will end up.
 
I appreciate it. I've browsed that site in the past for the bullet points. I have to prioritize myself instead of putting others on the pedestal so that it sticks.

Before the pandemic I was big on running the elliptical at the gym, even riding home on the bike late nights after the buses stopped. There's a track I can walk, though I prefer it around sunrise and sunset in this weather.

I'm trying for a better sleep schedule to accommodate a better lifestyle. The free coffee all summer at Panera helps in some ways.
 

infowarrior1

Hummingbird
I appreciate it. I've browsed that site in the past for the bullet points. I have to prioritize myself instead of putting others on the pedestal so that it sticks.

Before the pandemic I was big on running the elliptical at the gym, even riding home on the bike late nights after the buses stopped. There's a track I can walk, though I prefer it around sunrise and sunset in this weather.

I'm trying for a better sleep schedule to accommodate a better lifestyle. The free coffee all summer at Panera helps in some ways.

As for your other comment about being compromised when you look to God. Remember that in the Gospels Prostitutes and Tax Collectors came to Jesus and believed in Him.

Jesus accepted those sinners that the Pharisees rejected. So long as you are repentant and believe in him who was raised from the dead. Ask him for the Holy Spirit. Ask him to forgive you in prayer. Pray and Fast when necessary.

No one who is alive and repentant is beyond forgiveness.
 

TrifeLife

Woodpecker
Only have a couple weeks under my belt right now. Was really close to breaking today, just couldn't think about anything else for hours on end this morning/afternoon. Reading a few pages of this thread helped, it brought the inevitable shame that I would feel into sharp focus. Thankful that I held strong.

I've noticed that alcohol really hurts the cause. I had dinner at a friend's last night and had a 5 or so drinks. It's always the day after drinking that my resolve wanes and I end up relapsing. Stay strong gents.
 

westernman

Sparrow
I've noticed that alcohol really hurts the cause. I had dinner at a friend's last night and had a 5 or so drinks. It's always the day after drinking that my resolve wanes and I end up relapsing. Stay strong gents.

I have noticed ALL substances make it much harder. When I was a daily caffeine user, I found my self giving in much more easily.
 

((()))

Sparrow
Day 35 and I'm going completely bonkers.

I wake up with a pornographic mind and I go to sleep with a pornographic mind. I wish Bill Gates would work on a cure to erase every pornographic imagery ingrained in our brains over the years instead of his usual luciferian shenanigans.

I used to be so full of pride that I thought that I could get through this alone. But how could I save myself if I'm so corrupted at heart? Thank God I have a friend called Jesus.
 

fiasco360

Kingfisher
Well - something of note here and a bit of an esoteric post. I have been under bad habits in the past few months of eating too much, not exercising enough, sometimes looking at porn and just other issues. I have prayed and asked for guidance and I realized I'm under a lot of influence that I feel as though is not my own. I kept falling into the same pattern and routine that I couldn't seem to break.

I was bored late at night and decided to open my phone and start searching - as I'm about to tap the search button - the ground moves. An actual earthquake had occurred at that exact moment. I quickly put my phone down and gave thanks to God.
 

FactusIRX

Woodpecker
Here's a couple of tangible steps that I have taken that have helped me:

-Keep my body busy. I work out everyday now. Even if it is just a quick 20 min run. I need to get my body working. It's a machine and if it's idle, it will lead me to evil.
-Keep my mind busy. I now listen to Gregorian chants if I don't have any mental activity planned. It focuses my mind on God, rather than leading my to randomly surf the web and find smut.
-Only drink alcohol when I'm with my wife. Never alone. Never with strange women.
-No porn anywhere. No saved videos. No saved websites. No websites that allow smut. No social media.

I'm on my fourth month of a protracted porn withdrawal and documenting every time I fail. Not only does it get easier, but when I do fail, it no longer produces the satisfaction or high that it used to. In fact, I notice that porn only saps my energy, takes me away from God, and causes me to get angry at my wife.

It takes time, but it does get better.
 

FactusIRX

Woodpecker
I had some very serious urges today. What did I do? I asked God for guidance. Immediately, it became clear that I needed to run. . . so I ran. The urges were completely gone by the end of the run, and instead of wasting my masculinity on sin, I became a slightly healthier and happier human being.

This is what being a Christian is about. You nurture your relationship with God, so in moments of weakness, He guides you to salvation.
 
Whenever you feel the urge to fap to porn just imagine the fat old globalist director behind the camera laughing at you. Because he is.


Imagining some disgusting jew that hates white people and wants to see the host nations they're a part of crumble would instantly motivate me to stay away from spiritual/mental/ emotional damaging smut.

You jest, but... that's extremely effective @andy dufresne
 

DeWoken

Sparrow
My avoidance of the mask debate ( :sneaky: ) almost came to an end today. I wasn't keeping track diligently of how many days had gone by because usually it's a moot point: I relapse after a week or so, with not much motivation to keep going. This time it's been about a month. I credit this board, with its clean, engaging and intelligent discussions, for much help.

I agree with the sentiment that alcohol is a major trigger. What really gets me is the day after drinking. Suddenly the hydraulics have a mind of their own. I try to play dumb.

I had a strange case of the hiccups after a meal which became uncomfortable. So in effort to put out the flames I applied wine... a half bottle of wine. Maybe next time I'll try sparkling water, or pipe/cigar.
 

Huginn

Newbie
Anybody got some experience when it comes to dealing with stress while being on NoFap? Getting more relaxed and focused seems impossible to me when going past 20 days. I know this sounds silly but my "arguement" for breaking a streak is to feel calm again and to make the overwhelming negative thoughts go away for a while. I've been struggling with this for too long now and I want to put an end to this.
 

((()))

Sparrow
Anybody got some experience when it comes to dealing with stress while being on NoFap? Getting more relaxed and focused seems impossible to me when going past 20 days. I know this sounds silly but my "arguement" for breaking a streak is to feel calm again and to make the overwhelming negative thoughts go away for a while. I've been struggling with this for too long now and I want to put an end to this.

How productive are you? Do you have a lot of free time?

This might be you feeling naturally over-energised due to the absence of soy.
 
I also concentrated on quitting pornography. Quitting the other things does not seem to work as it becomes extremely tense after a couple of weeks and I get stomach ache.
As I wrote before, quit pornography, not masturbation. Fair enough if they are both bad and sins, but the one really shackles the mind. It was the old Roosh advice before the Christian days and the one I find most sustainable with the least damage. Release the thing three times a month and the rest of the time you will feel fine.
 

animum-rege

Sparrow
-Keep my body busy. I work out everyday now. Even if it is just a quick 20 min run. I need to get my body working. It's a machine and if it's idle, it will lead me to evil.

This is critical. I didn't realize how impactful activity is until I adopted a ridiculously high-energy dog that needs to be walked/jogged and played with multiple times a day.

I went from <5k steps per day to a solid 15k+, and my Apple Watch activity meter now consistently fills up by dinnertime. I start my day with a 3 mile walk/jog, lots of park visits, a midday hike, and an post-dinner stroll.

I noticed that it became a LOT easier to avoid masturbation and pornography when my body was tired. Short, intense workouts every few days are good, but that constant, dawn-to-dusk low level activity? That's the difference-maker.
 
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