The NoPorn / NoFap Thread - For Those Who're Serious

DeWoken

Sparrow
Another positive benefit I noticed is I can read people much better now. I always thought I was a little bit autistic because I had a hard time reading people.
Interesting theory. If true I wonder how confounding other things that give dopamine release (such as caffeine addiction) are to this effect. Maybe I am more patient with people lately.
 

Mr Gee

Pigeon
Did 29 days and crashed again (unreal feeling reaching 30 days, I was a new man). The fall from grace was the environment where I live, I am surrounded by drinkers and weed. I am unhappy being where I am at the moment but lost my job due to plandemic, lost my apartment, and now I am reorganising, slowly. I am usually pretty good at abstaining from things and have a strong will to resist peer pressure but recent events have really messed things up for a lot of us have they not?
After this 29 day period of monk mode I gave way to temptation with a drink or two as a way to escape my ills, then some weed, then all the pillars came crashing down as you can imagine. It was difficult to get back on that horse, took a couple of weeks and the black dog was gnawing at me.
But here I am, back, at day 15. The black dog is gone, I booted it to the curb. I feel in control now, much more confident and motivated already. It is helping that I am temporarily away from that environment working a temp contract and keeping busy with work, study, and gym. I dread the return home but am making plans to get out of there. Prayer and visualisation of where I want to go is also helping, I write a lot of stuff down on paper.
The benefits of a clean life style are imperative at this time. Stay strong brothers!
 
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FactusIRX

Woodpecker
Interesting theory. If true I wonder how confounding other things that give dopamine release (such as caffeine addiction) are to this effect. Maybe I am more patient with people lately.
It's an interesting question. I'm certainly more perceptive of people (especially women) now than I was before.

Did 29 days and crashed again (unreal feeling reaching 30 days, I was a new man). The fall from grace was the environment where I live, I am surrounded by drinkers and weed. I am unhappy being where I am at the moment but lost my job due to plandemic, lost my apartment, and now I am reorganising, slowly. I am usually pretty good at abstaining from things and have a strong will to resist peer pressure but recent events have really messed things up for a lot of us have they not?
After this 29 day period of monk mode I gave way to temptation with a drink or two as a way to escape my ills, then some weed, then all the pillars came crashing down as you can imagine. It was difficult to get back on that horse, took a couple of weeks and the black dog was gnawing at me.
But here I am, back, at day 15. The black dog is gone, I booted it to the curb. I feel in control now, much more confident and motivated already. It is helping that I am temporarily away from that environment working a temp contract and keeping busy with work, study, and gym. I dread the return home but am making plans to get out of there. Prayer and visualisation of where I want to go is also helping, I write a lot of stuff down on paper.
The benefits of a clean life style are imperative at this time. Stay strong brothers!
Yes, it snowballs. As soon as you break on one vice and you weaken your mental facilities, then the other vices tend to follow. It's why you often hear drug addicts talk about how the night starts with one beer and ends with a speedball in some seedy motel with women of the night. I have completely stopped using weed and only have a glass of beer when I'm with my wife. Whenever I'm alone, I stay focused and productive (idle hands are the devil's playthings). Also, sorry to hear about your job. The plandemic is such a joke.
 
Time for a clean October. One day at a time.

I am ready to climb out of the hole which is pornography for good. Lust is just another form of slavery......and each day you don't look at porn is one step closer to the zest you once had for life.

It bothers me that my nephew and the next generation of men will be subjected to VR porn and even more immersive forms of addiction. Pray for them and let the zoomers know about the evils of porn use.

Porn has negatively impacted my life more than any other habit......

It has sexualized my worldview....

It has led me down a path of anxiety and depression...

It has stolen time that I will never get back.....time I could have perhaps spent building myself or a family.

No more guys.
 

FactusIRX

Woodpecker
Boys, today was a big win for me. I woke up feeling nauseous and depressed. I had the house to myself. It was the perfect recipe for disaster. I had to summon a ton of willpower, reminded myself of how far I have gone, and powered through it. Not only did I not PMO, but I went lifting in the afternoon, and then fighting in the evening. I know that if I actually did PMO, I would have spent the day doing nothing. I have also officially hit 20 days, which is the longest streak of my life. Going for a clean October and then going to be rolling in with a ton of momentum for no-nut November.
 
I admit to being very fond of video games, though I rarely play them. I have a list of about thirty games I want to eventually try, perhaps to never finish, but at least play. To save lots of time, I sometimes will watch video game cut-scenes on Youtube. It is basically like watching a movie, and usually takes only one to two hours, if I view the entire thing. Otherwise, finishing a game might take 30-60 hours...
 

gework

Ostrich
Gold Member
Amazing!! What’s your secret??
For me the key things, as a short list: God, humility, gaining a deeper understanding of the relationship between people and things, the idea of refusing sess thoughts and a little bit of JLP.

@JiggyLordJr posted about refraining from sex thoughts in his separate post. Particularly once you are on the path, fapping doesn't spring out of nowhere. You may start off just wanting to look at a dating site, and then... But also the idea of not looking at women in the street and so on. We have been raised with little or no concept of leashing our sexual desires. I am fairly sure this must have been practiced in the past as there was a ~1% illegitimacy rate without formal abortion or contraception. As you guide your self away from sex thoughts and lustful lears, the window to fap diminishes and you slowly form different habits.

I have been aware of JLP for maybe 7-10 years, but he only really came on my radar when someone posted a clip of the gay pastor Tom Carey running from JLP. So if you see him, ask him why did he run from Jesse Lee Peterson. At first I got drawn in for the lulz, but soon found he has some very poignant observations, particularly on anger. I was already lower the most in anger, from realisations when I was 16, but it was from a psychological/philosophical perspective (which I will cover later). I had already realised what he says, but moved away from it and had a less encompassing perspective on it. Although I was low in anger, it was and is still there, often bubbling away unseen. Unless you have specifically dealt with it, you are harbouring all kinds of resentments to people. So I forgave all these people, in my mind and forgave myself for all the anxieties I have about XYZ. All sinful thoughts are a weight that can take you towards other sins, e.g. jealousy to hate; and ultimately sinful acts, like burning down cities. I'm not getting this out well. I wrote better about this topic here: https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads...ed-when-they-were-a-child.37388/#post-1319092

When you remove from yourself the burdens of sin, such as anger, you find peace. And peace satisfies the soul it does not need the flesh.

On psychology and religion: I have had all sorts of philosophical and psychological ideas since I was about 15. They are useful, but they are like a giant rootless and shifting blob. What is there to stop you from shifting 180 degrees, as many do. I think this is part of the reason why psychologists and philosopher are typically crackpots, riddled with spiritual problems. They play God on issues, which are settled. To be a secular psychologist/philosopher likely involves taking the weight of the world on your shoulders (again playing God) and you're forever turning and shifting things in your mind. This is not a peaceful place. As a 'philosophy', if everyone tried to remain free of sin then we wouldn't need much else. We already have the blueprint of how to pass on a contiguous society over 1,000+ years; and all the secular pursuits are chipping away at that. Jordan Peterson tried to straddle the two and look how that ended.

It's also important to forgive yourself for your falls on the way to ending your masturbation career. This was discussed in The Sin Thread. The objective is peace, which does not including masturbating to women who might not even let you do that in front of them if you paid them. But even more so, it does not include fapping and then being angry at yourself and slipping into despondency. Accept your failures and move on. If you have been fapping for years and years it's probably going to take some time. Have patience with yourself, which is the opposite of anger.

You need to get to a point where you don't want to fap. I started smoking pot! when I was 14. The reason for that was unaddressed spiritual sickness. No one starts smoking pot! for any other reason. But I gave up before most other people got started (in university). The desire to do it had turned into repulsion, because that spiritual sickness was lifted from me. I don't believe I worked that out myself, it was taken from me because otherwise it would probably have been the end (see the above linked post).

I admit to being very fond of video games, though I rarely play them. I have a list of about thirty games I want to eventually try, perhaps to never finish, but at least play. To save lots of time, I sometimes will watch video game cut-scenes on Youtube. It is basically like watching a movie, and usually takes only one to two hours, if I view the entire thing. Otherwise, finishing a game might take 30-60 hours...
I don't think there is anything wrong with them in themselves. And I wouldn't mind occasionally having a two hour go on one with someone else. But I can't even play them now without having a depressed feeling wash over me. The last game I played on seriously was Crysis 3 in 2013 ; multiplayer. It just became a place of amplification of negative feelings. It doesn't make sense how anyone could actually enjoy regular gaming. And I'm sure all the guys who are addicted to games would prefer to manhnadle IG models than bits of Chinese plastic.
 
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How is your prayer life? Are you chaste with your LTR?
I follow the esoteric buddhist path, so i do not pray in the christian way. However, as such, and similarly to all good Christians, i devote my life entirely to "God", "the Supreme Spirit", "the One Being", however you may call it. I repeat a "prayer" or "mantra" incorporating this devotion twice a day.

We are not chaste, but lead busy lives, so the practice of semen retention/ nofap goes well with this LTR as the spontaneous opportunity only arises about once every week/ 2 weeks.
 
@gework Your succes is an inspiriation and reminds me of the fact that it is possible for i too have battled the addictions of pot! and gaming succesfully. Seeing that you are equally succesfull with pmo is a great relief. Keep on the efforts!

Accountability post nr1;
The urges were strong and managed to fight them until day 4. Starting a new streak as of today. Sinned for two days straight.

Good actions this week;
  • Reinitiated daily meditation 30-60 min daily
  • Reinitiated gym 3-4 times/ week
  • Reread scripture on meditation, mindfullness, virtue, ...and practicing again as before
  • Reread Efficiency from WSP and made a new schedule focusing on time, physical, mental and work efficiency after the slip up
  • Installed a digital accountability journal to remind me of all tasks according to schedule/ goals and to analyze my efficiency in performing actions.
Lets get to a 7 day streak for the coming week!

May i be succesfull, may my endeavors benefit my loved ones and may my efforts inspire others.
 

gework

Ostrich
Gold Member
I follow the esoteric buddhist path
No wonder you were smoking pot! ;)

I don't know much about Bhuddism, but I stumbled across these concepts:


  • hope for happiness and fear of suffering,
  • hope for fame and fear of insignificance,
  • hope for praise and fear of blame,
  • hope for gain and fear of loss;
As dual-edged swords you should strive to stay away from:

https://www.lionsroar.com/buddhism-by-the-numbers-the-eight-worldly-concerns/

It is a similar concept to what is noted above about being angry, disheartened by nofap failure. Fap is essentially on the hope side (gain, happiness/pleasure). While nofap failure is a mixture of fears. Getting away from both will assist in leaving fap-world.
 
No wonder you were smoking pot! ;)

I don't know much about Bhuddism, but I stumbled across these concepts:


  • hope for happiness and fear of suffering,
  • hope for fame and fear of insignificance,
  • hope for praise and fear of blame,
  • hope for gain and fear of loss;
As dual-edged swords you should strive to stay away from:

https://www.lionsroar.com/buddhism-by-the-numbers-the-eight-worldly-concerns/

It is a similar concept to what is noted above about being angry, disheartened by nofap failure. Fap is essentially on the hope side (gain, happiness/pleasure). While nofap failure is a mixture of fears. Getting away from both will assist in leaving fap-world.
That is entirely correct. This is what is taught on the path; equanimity and tranquility towards craving and aversion (from which all defilements, emotions and sinful actions spring). Meditation and mindfullness are the path towards equanimity and ultimately release from the bondage of craving and aversion.

An example: At my strongest, 2 years ago, i was meditating 2 hours a day and mindfull of pretty much all actions, thoughts, feelings. Ultra-focussed on my actions, fulfilling all duties without procastination.

That is where i hope to get back to.
 

jonottawa

Newbie
I'm middle-aged, single, probably won't have sex again. I successfully did nofap for 100 days. It didn't seem to affect my physical or mental outlook much one way or the other, but when I subsequently did fap, the liquid that came out was basically water. I found that a little alarming, so I feel like I should at least keep the various parts working and now I consider it perfectly acceptable if I fap 2 or 3 times a week just before sleep (using my imagination, not porn.)

Porn is evil and should be outlawed, but I think expecting people to commit to a lifetime without ever orgasming again is pretty harsh. Am I mistaken/misguided?
 
I'm middle-aged, single, probably won't have sex again. I successfully did nofap for 100 days. It didn't seem to affect my physical or mental outlook much one way or the other, but when I subsequently did fap, the liquid that came out was basically water. I found that a little alarming, so I feel like I should at least keep the various parts working and now I consider it perfectly acceptable if I fap 2 or 3 times a week just before sleep (using my imagination, not porn.)

Porn is evil and should be outlawed, but I think expecting people to commit to a lifetime without ever orgasming again is pretty harsh. Am I mistaken/misguided?
Yes, that would be brutal, was for me. Marriage is a good way to stop being obsessed with getting relief.
 

Mr Gee

Pigeon
I'm middle-aged, single, probably won't have sex again. I successfully did nofap for 100 days. It didn't seem to affect my physical or mental outlook much one way or the other, but when I subsequently did fap, the liquid that came out was basically water. I found that a little alarming, so I feel like I should at least keep the various parts working and now I consider it perfectly acceptable if I fap 2 or 3 times a week just before sleep (using my imagination, not porn.)

Porn is evil and should be outlawed, but I think expecting people to commit to a lifetime without ever orgasming again is pretty harsh. Am I mistaken/misguided?
I'm middle aged and single too, divorced a long time ago. Recently dated then lived with a woman for about a year, but her needs changed (I wont go into that here), so backed out as obvious long term it would not work out. So single again the last 2 years.
Nofap for me means having a sound mind, more stable, and striving for equanimity (I thank the poster who mentioned this here). It will also allow you to build meaningful relationships with woman, and it will happen whether you look for it or not.
If you feel something is amiss with your health, please do get checked out by medical professional.
 
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