The NoPorn / NoFap Thread - For Those Who're Serious

Sjl

Chicken
according to some of those links, it's the porn, not the tuggin' causing the problems. addiction rewiring your brain and all, and giving you the novelty of new partners when in fact you're just fucking yourself. literally.

that leads to more questions:
-is tuggin' it alright if there's no visual aid involved?
-what about using naughty photos/videos sent to you by girls you've banged?

i have a friend who actually tried this for a while...may still be on the train, and he speaks volumes about it. I remain skeptical, but it is certainly a hypothesis worth disproving. i have no desire to know the frequency of other forums members' self-gratification, but I am curious to see if, placebo or otherwise, there is a tangible effect.

most surprising in those articles: the LACK of a link between jerking off and testosterone in the blood stream. I especially try to refrain before any sort of athletic competition (as many do, I am told), but I always thought it was effective because I wasn't depleting my precious T.

i do wish people would stop shitting on those trying this experiment. let them experiment without judgment, and we might all learn something. seriously, isn't that what this forum's about? trying new things to see if it helps us get results?

The only time I ever gave this a go was when I decided I needed to fuck my ex again (because I was young and stupid and had no other prospects). I promised myself the next nut I got would be inside her. cold-called her out of nowhere and got mine within 7 days. so, maybe there IS some validity to these hypotheses?
No tugging helps drive you to get the real thing. Fap makes you content another day to be where you are. So if you're not fappping and have no reason, I think it's beneficial absolutely but the reason helps me. I was tired of being single (about 5 years) and wanted a gf. Plus Im starting to take my testosterone levels and emotions more serious as a man. I want control of the sexual urges of my life. And as you know men think about sex constantly. To have control over your release makes you have a super power.

After a struggle I quit fap, and now I have a great gf.

There is merit to holding your sperm in your sack, and your leveled energy, focus, and daily drive. I run about 3 miles a day, lift weights, and work a mentally straining job.

No fap doesn't fix everything. But your balls and sperm make a man a man. Retaining these in your body and keeping control of it only seems logically sound to me.

Plus fap to anything, ex's images or thoughts to me is inherently the devil trying to lower your perception of yourself. Remain above that attack and it's another way to stay closer to God.
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
How it started:

A1OI2x4Jl4L.jpg


How it's going:

klFHXp1m.png
 

Huginn

Pigeon
I've passed the 90-day mark for the first time in my life. Since the beginning of 2019, I've tried it so many times and failed to stop the habit of PMO completely... that is until my last relapse where I started out differently. The last relapse was ugly, I was breaking down and confronted with the fact that my willpower just wasn't as strong as I'd like it to be. It is an understatement to say that I was devastated, because the first couple of failures can be brushed off a lot easier than the later ones. I simply lost confidence in my strength, in myself.

Before I went to bed on the night when the last relapse happend, I prayed. I've asked God for forgiveness but not to make this easier for me. The journey has to be difficult, painful even. How else am I ever going to break through this habit of weakness? I've prayed for the strength that is required to make it through this.

Suddenly, I started to see the current situation of the lockdown as this very test to overcome this problem once and for all. As it sets the stage for being inside your home - isolated from most people, indulging in bad habits without any consequences (like performing bad at work, at the gym or being socially awkward).

However, this attempt wasn't a straight perfect line and I did have moments of weakness in this time period. Luckily, when I was on the edge again and loaded up certain mind-poisoning material, it did absolutely nothing for me. I actually felt disgusted and closed it after a couple of clicks. The lust that I felt couldn't be increased by looking at this filth and I've completely felt detached from the idea of pleasuring myself to this.

Now, I must admit that I do not feel fully healed just yet. A decade of porn consumption won't leave your soul unscathed. However, it did show me that faith is very important and that I will continue to work on strengthening it.
 

Diocletian

Woodpecker
Hey guys, anyone on here who was able to kick porn/masturbation? What worked, and what didn't? I'm seeing a lot of good stuff. I think my main problem is I lack discipline and self-restraint so I just kind of let my body do whatever I feel like.

Thanks!

For me the porn itself was the easy part. Deleted everything I had. I logged in to my router and blocked every site I could think of, changed the password to some long string of random numbers and letters I would never remember the first time around then threw out the paper I wrote that on.

The harder part is the mental images and fantasies of ex girlfriends, hot coworkers, porn you've previously consumed, etc. going through your mind. I still struggle with that. Hail Marys help when I get those images and fantasies. I've been doing a lot more reading and working on my hobbies, mostly my brewing right now because its too cold to go hiking, and lifting a lot. It takes your mind off it. I think for me at least boredom triggers it and so keeping occupied helps.

On day 14 now and its tough, but its one of those things you know you have to do because its good for you.
 

semilla

Sparrow
Is anyone here concerned about flatlining? I had a serious 3-4 month flatline when I stopped for a weeks last year, and now I’m concerned to go through it all over again to finally give this stuff up.
 

KulturedKaveman

Chicken
Orthodox
The harder part is the mental images and fantasies of ex girlfriends, hot coworkers, porn you've previously consumed, etc. going through your mind. I still struggle with that. Hail Marys help when I get those images and fantasies. I've been doing a lot more reading and working on my hobbies, mostly my brewing right now because its too cold to go hiking, and lifting a lot. It takes your mind off it. I think for me at least boredom triggers it and so keeping occupied helps.
Will take a stab at the Hail Mary. No joke. Hot ex I used to fantasize about - even when with my current wife material. But it looks like the world had its way with her. She’s fat and lefty now. You’d think that would make it easy enough.
 

MtnMan

Woodpecker
The harder part is the mental images and fantasies of ex girlfriends, hot coworkers, porn you've previously consumed, etc. going through your mind. I still struggle with that. Hail Marys help when I get those images and fantasies. I've been doing a lot more reading and working on my hobbies, mostly my brewing right now because its too cold to go hiking, and lifting a lot. It takes your mind off it. I think for me at least boredom triggers it and so keeping occupied helps.

On day 14 now and its tough, but its one of those things you know you have to do because its good for you.
I think you will find that the fantasies will lessen over time.
 

J.E.

Robin
Confession of a porn addict, "The more you do and the longer you do it, the less of you there is left.".

Quit porn now.

These two videos are very helpful to put things into perspective. The bigger problem of the two evils was always pornography for me and not self-pollution. While I could abstain on the latter quite easily, it is the former I keep coming back after weeks or months of abstaining. As the bearded man says in the first video, it is the first "affectionate" and sexual connection you really have, given that most boys are exposed to pornography before they really make their first experiences with girls. Like a cigarette, it gives me some relief watching porn but my stress and anger and coldness grows exponentially the day after.

The only real solution I have for abstaining from porn is maintaining or creating bonds with girls and having a good time with them. It cleaned my mind quite a bit and humanized girls for me. With porn there is always the dehumanizing and animalistic side to it, there is no love, no effort, no reality, nothing you experience by yourself. It is just virtual, an illusion, drawing you away from confronting the real problem.
 

OrthoLeaf

Sparrow
Orthodox
and what didn't?
Trying to quit using my own willpower, without Christ.
Hey guys, anyone on here who was able to kick porn/masturbation? What worked
1. I allowed myself a "relapse date". Setting the goal "I'll never watch porn and masturbate again!" is a noble, but ultimately an unobtainable goal. You'll end up giving into temptation eventually, then feel the same old guilt and fall into the same old rut. Instead, start with a month. Then double it to two. Then 4 etc. If you do that right there, that means only 3 relapses in the span of 7 months! If you can't do that, then start with a week, then double. The set goal gives you a finish line and helps you resist the temptations when they arrive. Your hyper sexualized mindset will begin to fade by simply removing it to the outer peripherals of your life. You'll know your nearly free when 4 months passes by and your "relapse date" arrives and your mentality is "meh, I guess I'll do it because I can but whatever".

2. The Jesus Prayer. When a temptation hits, stand up and face your icon corner (if you have). Take a deep breath to calm your body and thoughts, make the sign of the cross while saying "Glory to the Father, and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit, both now and ever and unto the ages of ages. Amen" Or "Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal, have mercy on me x3) then say: "Lord Jesus Christ" (breathing in), "Have mercy on me" (breathing out) - internally or externally. If you have a prayer rope, use it. If not, say it 10-12 times (don't count, just use rough estimates), then make the sign of the cross again ("Glory to the Father..." or "Holy God...") and follow this up with a quick prayer to the Theotokos. "O most holy mother of God, save us" or "O most holy mother of God, pray for me a sinner". Rinse and repeat until temptation passes. 5-10min should do it. Then give thanks to God for relieving you of the temptation and carry on with your day.

3. Develop a life of prayer. It's literally impossible to fall into such a filthy habit when you're praying consistently throughout the day. These disgusting thoughts just have no place to latch onto and when the temptation does make it passed your guard, it's easily dismissed. Not only because you just prayed, but also because you set your relapse target. Consider, if your daily schedule makes it possible praying on the liturgical hours. (6AM,9AM,12PM,3PM,6PM etc.) even if it's just a quick "Glory to the Father.." or "The Lords prayer" or a few Jesus Prayers. Even a 10-30sec prayer every 3 hours goes a long way to orienting your life to Christ, keeping your nous armed and ready for when the enemy attacks. Think of this like a commander checking the battlements throughout the day - keeps his soldiers vigilant and ready in case of a surprise assault from the enemy.

4. Remember, the demons hate your guts and want nothing more than to destroy you and your soul and reduce you to their pathetic and lowly status. They're miserable and pathetic creatures, who want you to be a miserable and pathetic creature just so they can justify their fall away from God by saying "See, look! All these men fell to! It wasn't just me! It wasn't my fault". Every time they attack you with suggestions or temptations, remind yourself of this fundamental truth.

5. I say this VERY hesitantly, but it worked for me, so I'll offer it. If you are in dire straights with this spiritual sickness, make a vow to Christ. "I will not masturbate or watch pornography for X amount of time". Follow this up with a prayer to God, asking for His grace to help you achieve this and a prayer to the Theotokos to pray for you during this trial. This is a last resort! Your armies have been smashed, the enemies at the gate, last ditch desperation type effort. Do not, ever, make a vow you cannot keep! That said, doing this will give you the extra willpower you may just need to overcome all temptations. When I did this, after every temptation, automatically my immediate thought would be "Nope, F U Satan, I made a vow and I will not break it." after several lame and pathetic attacks, these suggestions just simply stopped. It was enough to give me the initial breathing room to where I could use the other 4 tools I mentioned.

God bless brother, now go make those demons tremble with the name of Christ!
 

wannable alpha

Woodpecker
https://www.collectiveshout.org/men_need_to_de_radicalise_from_porn

Maybe de-radicalize is a strong term and the author is just trying to be provocative but he makes a good case overall. Best part from the article -

"Well, she's getting paid so it's alright"

"I know a lot of women are trafficked into porn but this is a reputable company, so I'm sure the women are here of their own free will"

"I'm sure she enjoys getting ejaculated on her face. Why would she do it otherwise?"

"Eighteen is an age where people are trusted to make good decisions. So she's only doing what's right for her. It's a free choice"

"I'm sure she enjoys being choked like that"

"She's not really a schoolgirl and he isn't a teacher, it's just fantasy"

"She isn't really a kidnapped hitchhiker, it's just fantasy"

"She's not really a babysitter, it's just fantasy"

"That looks like it's hurting her, I bet she's loving it"

"He's f---ing her so hard, she looks like she's about to pass out, that's so hot"

"Well, it's only up her skirt, she doesn't know anyone's filming it"

"It's only a video of her arse, you can't see her face"

"Well, you can see her face, but I doubt anyone who knows her is watching this"

"I'm sure she's drunk, that stupid whore, I bet she's loving it"

"Women are whores who just want to be f-cked"

"Women only exist to pleasure me"

"Look at her in that skirt, I bet she's a f---ing slut"

"Who goes out looking like that, I bet she wants to get f---ed"

"I'd love to see that slut get f---ed"
 

Papist

Robin
My best streak was 106 days. Trying to best that.
I'm sure I read or heard that not ejaculating can contribute to prostate cancer, though I have no idea whether or not that's true.

I'm utterly convinced that porn is bad. I used to watch a lot of porn - well pics of nude women, no fornication - and it definitely desensitised me and has lowered my libido. How much of that is also due to ageing and lifestyle factors is not clear, though. What benefits do you notice?
 
I'm sure I read or heard that not ejaculating can contribute to prostate cancer, though I have no idea whether or not that's true.

I'm utterly convinced that porn is bad. I used to watch a lot of porn - well pics of nude women, no fornication - and it definitely desensitised me and has lowered my libido. How much of that is also due to ageing and lifestyle factors is not clear, though. What benefits do you notice?

That's a myth perpetuated by the establishment to prevent you from embarking on the path of CELIBATE VIRTUE. It has officially been deboonked. Look into it.
 
Top