The NoPorn / NoFap Thread - For Those Who're Serious

J.E.

Robin
I'm sure I read or heard that not ejaculating can contribute to prostate cancer, though I have no idea whether or not that's true.
That's a lie propagated by Jewish doctors. Semen retention harnesses your spiritual and physical fortitude. This is why when you fornicate or masturbate excessively you lose your ability to pray and high physical performance. Mike Tyson, during his best boxing years, didn't have sex nor masturbated for four years. He was at peak performance.
 

Papist

Sparrow
That's a lie propagated by Jewish doctors. Semen retention harnesses your spiritual and physical fortitude. This is why when you fornicate or masturbate excessively you lose your ability to pray and high physical performance. Mike Tyson, during his best boxing years, didn't have sex nor masturbated for four years. He was at peak performance.
That's very interesting, thanks.
 
That's a lie propagated by Jewish doctors. Semen retention harnesses your spiritual and physical fortitude. This is why when you fornicate or masturbate excessively you lose your ability to pray and high physical performance. Mike Tyson, during his best boxing years, didn't have sex nor masturbated for four years. He was at peak performance.
Not just physical performance. I feel mentally stronger and sharper too, how much is placebo I’m unsure. The prostate cancer finding was more likely correlation rather than causation. A fairly weak correlation. People who are old/unhealthy enough to develop prostate cancer, likely ejaculated less due to pre-existing lower health. Less ejaculation didn’t cause the cancer.
 

delabeaux

Chicken
John Doyle has a great vid on how porn is destroying our country, on Youtube. It's a tool of subversion. For me, it's been easier to quit realizing that it is a tool of subversion, and to get angry about this fact. 'They' want you focused inwards, fapping all day. Who are they? Worth looking into who the major pornographers' are, and what they have in common. It's physically damaging as it causes brain changes, it's mentally damaging in how you think, act, and respond to women. It's meant to disrupt the family. It's meant to make a society of weak men unable to retaliate or respond to this threat. It's meant to make women nothing more than empowered whores, which further degrades the family, society, men. Get angry about it.
 

TrifeLife

Woodpecker
not sure exactly what day I'm at right now, I think about 2 weeks clean. Pinning my start date as April 1 to have something concrete to look back upon.
I'm tired of relapsing and thinking "holy crap, I have no power whatsoever to resist this compulsion" and I patently reject the idea.
I have had unusually strong urges in the last week, but the desire to reject and avoid experiencing that thought has helped me pull through.
I have also realized the deep sensory fantasizing I engage in when abstaining has got to be something I fight against. These patterns of thought essentially stimulate the brain pathways that have been forged through years of watching porn, and will slow their being shut down.
A line I read recently when considering habits and actions is "is this activity congruent with my value as a man?" In this case, the answer is an obvious no, so it must be stamped out.
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
not sure exactly what day I'm at right now, I think about 2 weeks clean. Pinning my start date as April 1 to have something concrete to look back upon.
I'm tired of relapsing and thinking "holy crap, I have no power whatsoever to resist this compulsion" and I patently reject the idea.
I have had unusually strong urges in the last week, but the desire to reject and avoid experiencing that thought has helped me pull through.
I have also realized the deep sensory fantasizing I engage in when abstaining has got to be something I fight against. These patterns of thought essentially stimulate the brain pathways that have been forged through years of watching porn, and will slow their being shut down.
A line I read recently when considering habits and actions is "is this activity congruent with my value as a man?" In this case, the answer is an obvious no, so it must be stamped out.

Stopping fantasising is definitely one of the biggest steps. Hitting the tubes or whatever is not typically where it starts. Maybe it starts with seeing a flash of flesh on a news sites and then it escalates. Even just seeing a name you associate with the act can start the ball rolling. It will take time, but if you keep at it and keep trying new things, you will decrease.

On top of that it is important to not feel angry and powerless. You need to look at your progress and keep away from the negative thoughts of your failure. It is these very negative thoughts that lure you into asexual acts. Take it one step at a time - you'll grow into it.
 
That's very interesting, thanks.
In my humble opinion I just think we are naturally able to retain semen. It wouldn't make sense for us to have to ejaculate all the time. Think about man hundreds of years ago...no way he was ejaculating all the time. Also, if you can accept that the only purpose of ejaculation is to reproduce, it makes sense that a Christian man could quiet those urges and only call upon them within a marriage for that purpose. For me, quitting porn involved an initial "hump" I had to get over. I found myself thinking "how could anyone do this (retain semen)?" But once your body gets the hint that you will not be calling on it for the foreseeable future to make babies, it backs off. Lean on God every time sexual thoughts enter your mind.

Fasting in general (abstaining from anything pleasurable) helps you see how your body and thoughts try to get you to indulge in things. If you fail don't be hard on yourself. Through fasting, we can learn self-control.
 
I have only had trouble with losing it during dreaming. Whether this is demonic or not I can't give a 100% verdict on, but I used to have good luck sleeping with no internet around me. Something about the perceptive ability of the brain to receive signals even passively, while unconscious, has led to me having very disturbing dreams when surrounded by WiFi et al. Sleeping in the middle of nowhere has also helped, though it is more dangerous if someone unsavory or with ill intent were to stumble upon your camp. How have some of you who have mastered nofap gotten rid of the wet dreams?
 
Just hit the 100 day mark over the weekend. I think short goals have helped, along with some way to hold yourself accountable. A simple spreadsheet with two columns - date and number of times is all it's taken for me. Adding another 0 when I waken up in the morning is a great motivator. I didn't set out to go long term, just wanted to do it less. First it's a week, then two weeks, then a month, etc. Needless to say, it all starts with prayer and accepting you have a higher purpose in life than to make a mess in your own hand.

God willing I can keep going.
 

J.E.

Robin
Lean on God every time sexual thoughts enter your mind.
It helps, but what is more effective and boosts your testosterone yet deminishes your sexual urges immediately is self-torture through ice-cold showers. An ice-cold shower a day keeps the fap away.

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Papist

Sparrow
I’m up to 30 days. Not because I’m trying for a streak but just busy with real life and work and too tired for masturbation

I do think that porn rewires your brain and makes your cock fail to work correctly
I'm convinced porn does that, aye. I used to get a sort of adrenaline rush when I saw a hot girl and, well, a stirring of the loins. Maybe it's just middle age, but that happens very rarely, and not to the same extent. I think too much porn - I've never watched fornication, just women stripping or pics of naked ladies - accustomises the brain to it. I've seen literally thousands of images of naked women and I think only Ghengis Khan has probably seen that many women IRL, the brain is not supposed to get conditioned to seeing that and it kills the dopamine/adrenaline hit, or whatever else it is that causes the rush.
 

Watchman72

Sparrow
I haven't had sex for almost 2 decades and I will probably stay single for the rest of my life.
How feasible is this no-fap thing for someone in my situation?
 
I struggle with this but am determined and convinced now that no porn is the way. What for me was a breakthrough was finding out and understanding what the purpose of porn is: to destroy you spiritually, get you on your knees and be a slave. That's it, it is enslavement. It's vile too as obviously we men fall in the trap very quickly especially when we are at home alone. I think dr E. Michael Jones addresses this issue broadly in his book Libido Dominandi and ties it in with the sexual liberation in general, which in fact is a political/material weapon to weaken men and basically achieve them. At least when I speak for myself I feel mentally drained after watching porn. It is vile and we should stay away from it, it is very helpful to realize why you're in this trap before you can get out of it... masturbation in general stopping that I don't know about that, the only reason I do it now is to just prevent filthy sheets once a week (and I find I think about sex in these dreams very graphicly and that stays with me during the day, so I find this a reasonable midway that works up til now). Good luck guys, this is a tough one to crack but one of the most liberating things I believe.
 
What helps me not to masturbate:

1)Find God. This is absolutely necessary, because firstly, it gives you a goal to aspire to that is sustainable and secondly, it is a mortal sin that deincentivizes you to actually go through with wanking.
2)Prayer. This is connected to 1) obviously, but it really helps you to build your spiritual self and shield your body and mind against temptation.
3)Ignore and do not consume anything that blatantly triggers your lust. This could be a really hot woman or even a sex scene in a film.

I then find after a few weeks it is not hard anymore. I am mentally stronger, am less pale and feel less drained. Funnily enough, I am a bit calmer, too.
 

Sitting Bull

Woodpecker
The following looks like good advice to me, I invite all the people here struggling with masturbation to try it for some time and come tell us how it worked :

I am just reading A Handbook of Spiritual Counsel by Nicodemos of the Holy Mountain.

A few things on guarding onself from the sense of vision:

"If ever by thought an inappropriate fantasy comes to us, it must be expelled by reason. Thus, shut your eyes to this image. Remove from it the flesh of the cheeks, cut away the lips and imagine then a mass of bones which is deformed. Think then what the desire image really is. This way our thoughts will be relieved of any vein deceits, for the desired image is nothing more than blood mixed with phlegm... From this point on the mind notes nothing about the once desired image, but foul-smelling and decaying ulcers, and soon imagines it lying dead next to the inner eyes. Thus it is possible for one to escape from sensual thought".
 
What helps me not to masturbate:

1)Find God. This is absolutely necessary, because firstly, it gives you a goal to aspire to that is sustainable and secondly, it is a mortal sin that deincentivizes you to actually go through with wanking.
2)Prayer. This is connected to 1) obviously, but it really helps you to build your spiritual self and shield your body and mind against temptation.
3)Ignore and do not consume anything that blatantly triggers your lust. This could be a really hot woman or even a sex scene in a film.

I then find after a few weeks it is not hard anymore. I am mentally stronger, am less pale and feel less drained. Funnily enough, I am a bit calmer, too.
I've found the calmer part true as well. I'm not sure whether it's the no fap part or the relying more on God and praying part, but I guess that doesn't matter.
 
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