The NoPorn / NoFap Thread - For Those Who're Serious

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
So via our brother Augustine I became aware yesterday of Al Goldstein, don't need to elaborate on his ethnicity. He, among other Jewish men from the 60s onwards, were the linchpinchs in the development of the porn industry (think also Reuben Sturman, the walt disney of porn). I read an article about him that disturbed me. I twas titled ''Al Goldstein, the publisher who took romance out of sex''. Then it really hit me hard how porn was setup, that it's all about removing romance and love out of the equation and create a cold consumer product to fulfill the greed of a couple of Jewish men. Of course this was in the back of my head already lingering around, but once every time you have such an ephiphany where it really strikes home. I struggle with porn sometimes like most of us, but from now on I want you to remind this face when you feel inclined to watch porn and realize that you are willingly participating in the scheme of men like this who ''created porn because Jesus sucks and to distort Christian culture'' as they put them itself (Goldstein quote, look it up). We are all guilty when we participate in this mockery of God.


Keep this face in mind when you distort to porn and think: will I serve this or serve God. It's our choice.
 

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CSH2C

Sparrow
Protestant
Is it a sin to fap while thinking about my wife? Porn is not a part of my diet. I'm separated for 6 months due to a job contract, overseas. Occasionally she sends me flirty messages or risque photos. So I feel like my libido craves her. I know this is a weird question.
 

Lucas Simon

Pigeon
Catholic
So via our brother Augustine I became aware yesterday of Al Goldstein, don't need to elaborate on his ethnicity. He, among other Jewish men from the 60s onwards, were the linchpinchs in the development of the porn industry (think also Reuben Sturman, the walt disney of porn). I read an article about him that disturbed me. I twas titled ''Al Goldstein, the publisher who took romance out of sex''. Then it really hit me hard how porn was setup, that it's all about removing romance and love out of the equation and create a cold consumer product to fulfill the greed of a couple of Jewish men. Of course this was in the back of my head already lingering around, but once every time you have such an ephiphany where it really strikes home. I struggle with porn sometimes like most of us, but from now on I want you to remind this face when you feel inclined to watch porn and realize that you are willingly participating in the scheme of men like this who ''created porn because Jesus sucks and to distort Christian culture'' as they put them itself (Goldstein quote, look it up). We are all guilty when we participate in this mockery of God.


Keep this face in mind when you distort to porn and think: will I serve this or serve God. It's our choice.
The Goldstein quote helped me recover from being a coomer. I know he's a little out there but Owen Benjamin once said "Every time you look at porn a Jew takes a dump on your soul" For some reason that saying has also stuck with me when I think about looking at porn.
 

Matthewww

Pigeon
Other Christian
So via our brother Augustine I became aware yesterday of Al Goldstein, don't need to elaborate on his ethnicity. He, among other Jewish men from the 60s onwards, were the linchpinchs in the development of the porn industry (think also Reuben Sturman, the walt disney of porn). I read an article about him that disturbed me. I twas titled ''Al Goldstein, the publisher who took romance out of sex''. Then it really hit me hard how porn was setup, that it's all about removing romance and love out of the equation and create a cold consumer product to fulfill the greed of a couple of Jewish men. Of course this was in the back of my head already lingering around, but once every time you have such an ephiphany where it really strikes home. I struggle with porn sometimes like most of us, but from now on I want you to remind this face when you feel inclined to watch porn and realize that you are willingly participating in the scheme of men like this who ''created porn because Jesus sucks and to distort Christian culture'' as they put them itself (Goldstein quote, look it up). We are all guilty when we participate in this mockery of God.


Keep this face in mind when you distort to porn and think: will I serve this or serve God. It's our choice.
I will admit this has been a weakness of mine, and anytime I feel tempted to view porn or gratify myself, I'm just going to envision the grabblers behind the porn industry, and the cultural decay that allow the industry to flourish, and feel the passions dissipate. If that doesn't work I'll follow Roosh's advice from one of the past streams and pray. Like he said, most people can probably make it a month on their own, more than that you'll need help.
 

ChristMonarchist

Pigeon
Catholic
I usually keep this stuff to myself (unless I'm going to confession) and try to battle it on my own. I haven't watched porn in 2 years now, but the urge to fap is the worst part. I can usually make it about a month before I fall again and the reason I'm posting this is because I fell again yesterday. I need help from others, people to hold me accountable.

Any time I feel temptations I pray. Either the Jesus Prayer or my Rosary. It usually works, it is off of my mind for awhile, but then urges come on stronger and stronger. I get to a point where it feels like I need to because it's the only thing on my mind.

Of course I feel awful. I know I am weak and a sinner. Even worse because I feel like a failure as the head of my family. I know that I can get through anything with Christ, but I keep failing him. I ask for forgiveness and mercy, but being a sinner I always forget my sin and fall for it again.

I just need brothers holding me accountable. Everyone else is too secular. I can't talk to guys that I work with because they end up encouraging it and laughing at Christianity. I am not comfortable enough to talk to the men at my parish about it yet, other than my priest.

Are there any tips or ways that help you more? Ways to keep those temptations off of your mind? How do you hold yourself accountable?
 

P. D.

 
Banned
I usually keep this stuff to myself (unless I'm going to confession) and try to battle it on my own. I haven't watched porn in 2 years now, but the urge to fap is the worst part. I can usually make it about a month before I fall again and the reason I'm posting this is because I fell again yesterday. I need help from others, people to hold me accountable.

Any time I feel temptations I pray. Either the Jesus Prayer or my Rosary. It usually works, it is off of my mind for awhile, but then urges come on stronger and stronger. I get to a point where it feels like I need to because it's the only thing on my mind.

Of course I feel awful. I know I am weak and a sinner. Even worse because I feel like a failure as the head of my family. I know that I can get through anything with Christ, but I keep failing him. I ask for forgiveness and mercy, but being a sinner I always forget my sin and fall for it again.

I just need brothers holding me accountable. Everyone else is too secular. I can't talk to guys that I work with because they end up encouraging it and laughing at Christianity. I am not comfortable enough to talk to the men at my parish about it yet, other than my priest.

Are there any tips or ways that help you more? Ways to keep those temptations off of your mind? How do you hold yourself accountable?
This is what I've learned in struggling with this so far:
  • Become more humble with each failure.
  • Avoid despair and resentment - these are from the devil.
  • Guilt and shame are signs of a healthy conscience. Don't suppress them, but use them to increase your humility.
  • Remember that the virtue of purity is from the Lord. Give thanks for it when it is there.
  • Ask God to bring good out of your sin and to bring contrition to your heart.
  • When the contrition is there, go to confession. (Fapping is a mortal sin. Obviously don't take Communion in the state of mortal sin. Being embarrassed by not taking communion is better than committing sacrilege and is one way to hold yourself accountable.)
  • This my pastor suggested: Ask God to show you what He is trying to do in allowing the temptation. For me, it was in part to increase my capacity for forgiveness and to see the sins of others in a more compassionate and understanding light. And to have the humility to know that I too will fall should God allow it.
Consecrate all of your faults and even sins to the service of the Lord:
Job 40:
27 Lay thy hand upon him [leviathan]: remember the battle, and speak no more.
28 Behold his hope shall fail him, and in the sight of all he shall be cast down.
 

ChristMonarchist

Pigeon
Catholic
This is what I've learned in struggling with this so far:
  • Become more humble with each failure.
  • Avoid despair and resentment - these are from the devil.
  • Guilt and shame are signs of a healthy conscience. Don't suppress them, but use them to increase your humility.
  • Remember that the virtue of purity is from the Lord. Give thanks for it when it is there.
  • Ask God to bring good out of your sin and to bring contrition to your heart.
  • When the contrition is there, go to confession. (Fapping is a mortal sin. Obviously don't take Communion in the state of mortal sin. Being embarrassed by not taking communion is better than committing sacrilege and is one way to hold yourself accountable.)
  • This my pastor suggested: Ask God to show you what He is trying to do in allowing the temptation. For me, it was in part to increase my capacity for forgiveness and to see the sins of others in a more compassionate and understanding light. And to have the humility to know that I too will fall should God allow it.
Consecrate all of your faults and even sins to the service of the Lord:
Job 40:
Thank you so much for this. This really helps
 

darknavigator

Woodpecker
Catholic
I usually keep this stuff to myself (unless I'm going to confession) and try to battle it on my own. I haven't watched porn in 2 years now, but the urge to fap is the worst part. I can usually make it about a month before I fall again and the reason I'm posting this is because I fell again yesterday. I need help from others, people to hold me accountable.

Any time I feel temptations I pray. Either the Jesus Prayer or my Rosary. It usually works, it is off of my mind for awhile, but then urges come on stronger and stronger. I get to a point where it feels like I need to because it's the only thing on my mind.

Of course I feel awful. I know I am weak and a sinner. Even worse because I feel like a failure as the head of my family. I know that I can get through anything with Christ, but I keep failing him. I ask for forgiveness and mercy, but being a sinner I always forget my sin and fall for it again.

I just need brothers holding me accountable. Everyone else is too secular. I can't talk to guys that I work with because they end up encouraging it and laughing at Christianity. I am not comfortable enough to talk to the men at my parish about it yet, other than my priest.

Are there any tips or ways that help you more? Ways to keep those temptations off of your mind? How do you hold yourself accountable?

We will always have temptations! Temptations are a part of life. We are not sinning when we are tempted. We only sin when we act on the temptation. Catholics hold themselves accountable by going to confession. Some priests recommend going to confession once a month. St. Pope John Paul 2 went to confession weekly. Read Luke 17:4 and Matthew 18:21-22. We're all "works in progress" so keep going back to confession.
 
I usually keep this stuff to myself (unless I'm going to confession) and try to battle it on my own. I haven't watched porn in 2 years now, but the urge to fap is the worst part. I can usually make it about a month before I fall again and the reason I'm posting this is because I fell again yesterday. I need help from others, people to hold me accountable.

Any time I feel temptations I pray. Either the Jesus Prayer or my Rosary. It usually works, it is off of my mind for awhile, but then urges come on stronger and stronger. I get to a point where it feels like I need to because it's the only thing on my mind.

Of course I feel awful. I know I am weak and a sinner. Even worse because I feel like a failure as the head of my family. I know that I can get through anything with Christ, but I keep failing him. I ask for forgiveness and mercy, but being a sinner I always forget my sin and fall for it again.

I just need brothers holding me accountable. Everyone else is too secular. I can't talk to guys that I work with because they end up encouraging it and laughing at Christianity. I am not comfortable enough to talk to the men at my parish about it yet, other than my priest.

Are there any tips or ways that help you more? Ways to keep those temptations off of your mind? How do you hold yourself accountable?
 

ScannerLIV

Woodpecker
Matthew 5:28
But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Even if she is not taken and she is someone you are considering to be with for marriage?

If affirmative-what if you have lustful thoughts about a nonexistent woman?

Asking for clarification
 

ChristMonarchist

Pigeon
Catholic
What if the thoughts are more grounded in love or affection rather than in term of sexual pleasure? Or is this impossible since she is yet your wife?
For me this is always a slippery slope. It can start out as innocent as you want, but eventually thoughts like this become degenerate. I find it best to keep any sexual thoughts out of my head as soon as they pop up because if I don't I end up in sin.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
For me this is always a slippery slope. It can start out as innocent as you want, but eventually thoughts like this become degenerate. I find it best to keep any sexual thoughts out of my head as soon as they pop up because if I don't I end up in sin.

Best to let it come and pass. Don't indulge it. Just let it be like a fog that disappears in the morning. That's how some people who go the NoFap route did successfully.
 

Lawrence87

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Even if she is not taken and she is someone you are considering to be with for marriage?

If affirmative-what if you have lustful thoughts about a nonexistent woman?

Asking for clarification

Personally I think it's important to avoid imaginative fantasy of this kind in any regard. Whether it's imagining what you're going to do when you are rich, or imagining your life with a beautiful woman you just spoke to.

That's not to say it won't happen. I think we all get caught in this stuff from time to time, but we should not view it as justified and productive.
 
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