The Owen Benjamin Thread

Dallas Winston

Ostrich
Gold Member
I listened to one on Owen Benjamin Live channel the other day. He claims JFK wasn't killed in Dallas that day but something else happened to him admitting "I don't know what happened to JFK" He also had a recent one to the effect of "science is a farce" or something similarly titled. On his Live Channel, he takes them off after a day or so.

These ideas along with flat earth - Owen's kind of losing me
 

bucky

Ostrich
robreke said:
I listened to one on Owen Benjamin Live channel the other day. He claims JFK wasn't killed in Dallas that day but something else happened to him admitting "I don't know what happened to JFK" He also had a recent one to the effect of "science is a farce" or something similarly titled. On his Live Channel, he takes them off after a day or so.

These ideas along with flat earth - Owen's kind of losing me

Me too. With me it's mostly his increasingly pathetic obsession with Nick that's making me lose interest, but the everything-is-fake thing is getting old too. The fact that the Party says something is true doesn't necessarily mean it's a lie, to paraphrase Orwell.
 

Sword and Board

Kingfisher
Owen needs to check his ego on Fuentes and shows a naivety to the divisive tactics and obsessive determination of his enemies to pick at any loose threads to unravel all his work.

Otherwise I think he is great. He is the 'everyman' the not yet fully red-pilled layman can relate to without getting too bogged down on intellectualized Jargon/politics.

needs to stick with his strengths in comedy, experiences in showbiz, his war vet buddies, calling out Jewish shills like Shapiro, masculine family man lifestyle etc and steer clear of getting too deep in sciences, theology and infighting with guys in the same crosshairs as he.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Exactly, well said.

Owen is destroying his brand, his viewership has been going down, though he still has a core of devoted followers. At one point not too long ago his channel was still growing fast, reaching a quarter million and adding around 10,000/week, but now it's stagnant, with a large chunk having checked out.

He's been neutralized by the flat earthers on one hand, many of whom like David Weiss are deep state sponsored con artists right out of the Cass Sunstein academy, and by his ego-driven spat with Fuentes on the other hand.

Hope he will regain some perspective soon and get back on the right path, building on the promise he's shown. There is still a lot of quality in his message but it's getting diluted by the unnecessary, misdirected acrimony and the antilogos scientific forays into flat earthism and other subjects.
 

Jones

Woodpecker
He's getting close to the truth by questioning absolutely everything. Regardless of his opinion's on flat earth and such, he'll get there before Nick ever does because he asks difficult questions - he's very close to seeing How It All Fits Together.

He knows we've been lied to a lot. He just needs to get better at seeing truth from lies. And by the way, I'm criticizing someone who is like a Kobe Bryant at detecting lies and bullshit. He's far better than most at what he does, and I respect for a lot for it.

Owen could see what was behind Nick's grimacing smile. The followers of Nick have their purpose. America First: To prop up and fight for whatever America means to them - (I'll pose the question: "Was your country [America] ever your country? Who's land is this really?")

Owen's refusal to tie himself to the Catholic Church, or any political figures, the rule of the mob [followers of his "brand"] etc. is admirable.

Figure out the truth first before tying yourself to a cause. Know what you are going to be used for.
 

bucky

Ostrich
Jones said:
He's getting close to the truth by questioning absolutely everything. Regardless of his opinion's on flat earth and such, he'll get there before Nick ever does because he asks difficult questions - he's very close to seeing How It All Fits Together.

He knows we've been lied to a lot. He just needs to get better at seeing truth from lies. And by the way, I'm criticizing someone who is like a Kobe Bryant at detecting lies and bullshit. He's far better than most at what he does, and I respect for a lot for it.

Owen could see what was behind Nick's grimacing smile. The followers of Nick have their purpose. America First: To prop up and fight for whatever America means to them - (I'll pose the question: "Was your country [America] ever your country? Who's land is this really?")

Owen's refusal to tie himself to the Catholic Church, or any political figures, the rule of the mob [followers of his "brand"] etc. is admirable.

Figure out the truth first before tying yourself to a cause. Know what you are going to be used for.

Let's say Owen is right about everything...the moon landing, nuclear weapons being fake, the political and economic machinations that he believes in, etc. I'm willing to admit that I don't have direct knowledge of any of those things and Owen might well be right. I just wish he hadn't blown up at Nick's merely pointing out that he doesn't agree with everything and instead had tried to persuade him or just agreed to disagree. Before all this drama they seemed to be moving to a place where they could have efficiently cooperated in spite of their differences. Now we have this ugly divide that looks unfixable and is spreading to Vox Day as Vox sides with Owen and Nick's friends increasingly distance themselves from Vox.

Essentially, the two most efficient camps in the dissident right hate each other now, because Owen couldn't handle someone disagreeing with him on anything. As if we needed more division.
 

la bodhisattva

Kingfisher
Owen's level of ego prevents him from accepting even the slightest hint that he isn't 100% pure and correct on every issue. His is the God in his own world, casting out anyone who dares show any signs of questioning. From Rogan, to Crowder, to Peterson, to Klavan, to Rubin, to Prager, to Alex Jones. These were men Owen purported to admire and respect. Did their views change over the last two years? No. They just don't synch to every whim of Owen's impulses and he responds with absolute vitriol and animus. They become enemies because they look askance when Owen spends hours screaming about the moon landing or don't laugh at his self-professed hilarious and genius comedy.

It might take a while for the Vox/Owen split because Theodore sees Owen as a revenue stream and won't rock the boat until he realizes Owen's fanbase is stagnant at best and most likely shrinking quickly.

I know Roosh as mentioned being friends with Owen, but Owen has professed to be great friends with all those he now dedicates so much time attacking. All it will take is for Roosh to stay silent on a feud between Owen and anyone else, or acknowledge that Owen's opponent also makes valid points for him to turn his back and attack him with the pettiness and fervor that will remind Roosh of neon-haired, Toronto harpies.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
la bodhisattva said:
Owen's level of ego prevents him from accepting even the slightest hint that he isn't 100% pure and correct on every issue. His is the God in his own world, casting out anyone who dares show any signs of questioning. From Rogan, to Crowder, to Peterson, to Klavan, to Rubin, to Prager, to Alex Jones. These were men Owen purported to admire and respect. Did their views change over the last two years? No. They just don't synch to every whim of Owen's impulses and he responds with absolute vitriol and animus. They become enemies because they look askance when Owen spends hours screaming about the moon landing or don't laugh at his self-professed hilarious and genius comedy.

It might take a while for the Vox/Owen split because Theodore sees Owen as a revenue stream and won't rock the boat until he realizes Owen's fanbase is stagnant at best and most likely shrinking quickly.

I know Roosh as mentioned being friends with Owen, but Owen has professed to be great friends with all those he now dedicates so much time attacking. All it will take is for Roosh to stay silent on a feud between Owen and anyone else, or acknowledge that Owen's opponent also makes valid points for him to turn his back and attack him with the pettiness and fervor that will remind Roosh of neon-haired, Toronto harpies.

You're way out of bounds here, and bordering on promoting toxic divisive infighting between Roosh/Vox and Owen.

Owen has areas of strength, and very good judgment on many subjects, including his rejection and condemnation of shills like Rogan, Crowder, Peterson, Klavan, Rubin, Prager and Alex Jones.

I agree that he does have a tendency of trusting people too long, like Crowder. I think it comes from having father issues, his dad being a destructive scheming homo, this makes men with those issues too trusting of their mentors and male friends.

Owen's got some character flaws, we all do, and his are magnified by the fact that he's an open book on his channel. Those flaws and his background as an Xer with smalltown Upstate roots put him at odds with a preppyish urban brash skinny jeans wearing zoomer like Fuentes.

As well while he is a pretty bright guy, his lack of scientific grounding makes him vulnerable to psyops like flat earth, no dinosaurs/nukes, which are weaponized mind control tools designed to mislead and destroy the credibility of truthers who figure out real institutional falsehoods like JFK, 9/11, Feminism, monetary system etc...

Hopefully solid guys that he trusts like Vox or EMJ will help him separate the wheat from the chaff on these subjects, and with more maturity he will come to realize which battles are worth engaging in and which petty squabbles should be avoided.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
I think la bodhisattva doesn't have the lion's share of divisiveness when it comes to talking about Owen. Owen is doing plenty well at that himself.

Point of fact. If a year from now I took Owen's early videos and deepfaked them to add a different voice and face but the exact same content then Owen would probably virulently attack himself as a shill hack.

Now we all suffer from that a bit since these last few years have been such a steep learning curve but the leaders of the Right are obligated to a higher standard of conduct. If someone is pulling right and not acting as a gatekeeper to the areas further right then the correct and mature response is to either ignore them or wish them a quick journey getting up to speed.

Again, understanding that Roosh is friends with Owen, I still say he lacks the maturity to be a leader for exactly the same reasons I lack the maturity to be a leader. He struggles with wrath which is compounded by his resistance to accepting Christ into his life except under his own (futile) terms. I am working on the latter with good results but Owen appears to have become ever more unhinged, seeming to premise his worth around dragging others down. And when that's someone's motivation then ANY target is better than NO target.

I pray for Owen to accept Christ unconditionally and surrender to him. When that happens he will find himself on the road to recovery and these petty dramas will become a thing of the past. I contend though that this is ironically particularly difficult for men who've had to defend themselves against hostile surroundings for most of their life and who have, in the name of survival, trained themselves to trust nothing but their own strength.
 
Bitchute channel is not maintained by him personnaly, but as far as i know he also started streming on dlive now,

https://dlive.tv/OwenBenjaminComedy

Of course all his strems are also put on unathorized.tv after a day or two (and are free to watch, still you should consider suporting unathorized.tv if you are a regular Owen Benjamin viewer, since the amout of cotent is massive and it is only 5usd a month).

https://www.unauthorized.tv/categories/owen-livestreams


Ah, looks like he also created his official bitchute chanel now, The channel has only one video (his first response regarding youtube censorship).

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5uxAJlUgelJw/
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
I'm intrigued as to what is going to transpire on the 8th(?). If they do literally just ban en-masse all nationalists etc then obviously the agenda is out for all to see and they won't be able to deny it any longer.
 

Enoch

Ostrich
^ Yeah that's bad. I think Owen may have taken too many red pills too fast. Hate to see someone as funny and persuasive as him waste time on flat earth level stuff and friendly fire on people like Nick Fuentes.
 
Why is that bad? He didn’t have d live because he had YouTube. Now he doesn’t have YouTube so he’s on d live. Something tells me Nick will never get banned. If anything it seems like YouTube is constantly recommending I watch his videos. Wonder why?
 

VNvet

Kingfisher
phluff127 said:
Why is that bad? He didn’t have d live because he had YouTube. Now he doesn’t have YouTube so he’s on d live. Something tells me Nick will never get banned. If anything it seems like YouTube is constantly recommending I watch his videos. Wonder why?

You should ask Owen why DLive is so bad. He was the one that said he didn't have it because he isn't a homosexual.

Also, Owen brings Jews on his show, mentions how great Israelis are compared to US Jews (suspect), has Israeli friends (very suspect), and constantly mentions that he's 25% Jewish (extremely suspect), which tells me all I need to know about him.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
Roosh specifically stated that personal attacks against Owen aren't permitted as he considers him a real world friend. You're making some incredibly large nefarious assumptions about him there without any real evidence.
 
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