The Owen Benjamin Thread

Max Roscoe

Kingfisher
@Roosh It's been covered before but Owen's experiences with the perversity and satanic rituals one must accept before becoming famous in Hollywood are pretty shocking. There are not a lot of first person accounts out there.
 
Owen Benjamin is great. He helped wake me up. I started watching Louder with Crowder in high school and I didn't really think into stuff much further. When Owen Benjamin joined the show, he made it so much funnier. Pretty soon I started following Owen on social media and watching his livestreams. This happened during my freshman year of college in 2017. When Crowder fired him, Louder with Crowder instantly stopped being funny and I stopped watching the show. Instead, I watched Owen Benjamin. I learned about Roosh from Owen Benjamin. I remember Owen recommending Roosh Hour #35 - Clown World to his audience. I watched that stream and I was instantly hooked on Roosh's content. Both Owen and Roosh have helped me grow in my walk with God. I was red-pilled before, but I wasn't God-pilled until I started watching Owen and Roosh. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Owen Benjamin because in a pivotal time in my life, he helped me see that God was the answer, and not the world.
 
I enjoyed one of his first big comedy specials. I’m not sure if it was Netflix or where I watched it, so I’ve been a fan of his for a few years. I caught part of the live stream with Roosh tonight and also Owen’s stream with Dr. Kaufman. Both times Owen mentioned the Turpentine thing. I’m curious on how that turned out for him. I could never find his before and after Turpentine reviews. Good to know he’s still Alive (the bottle says harmful or fatal if swallowed).

So I tried it the protocol, minus the castor oil. I only did half of the recommended dose of Turp and it was awful. It was not too bad tasting with the sugar, just an awful feeling the next day. I felt like I was hungover, a terrible hangover. The castor oil came in a few days later, but I don’t want to go through that again. I had a lot of free time during quarantine. :laughter:
 

Zep

Pelican
@Roosh - I watched a bit of the interview and Roosh ... man, you remind me of myself at 40. Owen is so right when he says 40 is young, IT IS! I thought I was done at 40. Game over. WRONG.

I'm 55 now. I've got the beginnings of turkey neck. My skin in areas like my elbows and below my knees is not rebounding back. I have two or three nice big creases down my cheeks. I have lines across my forehead. My hands are now showing liver spots and my forearms are show sun-damage spots. I remember stating in the 40 plus thread that the male wall is somewhere between 45 and 55, in my opinion. You are fine. Maybe consider shaving the beard one day, beards apparently age you in that they weigh-down the facial skin.

You can't find a wife? I'm with Owen on this one. I don't really buy it.

I've been celibate for fifteen years now. *I* should be a monk. I've had to really think about why this is.

-have I really tried to get a girlfriend? no, I haven't.
-why I haven't I really tried? this answer took a while to get to ... I had other excuses before this final answer. Because my self-esteem is low and I don't feel deserving of a beautiful girl.
-am I too picky? YES. I am too picky. My exes were all slim and pretty, one was exceptionally pretty. Can I be with a woman who is not slim and pretty? No. Unfortunately I can't seem to change this, and I genuinely want to, because I see men my age with woman who are obviously not 20 anymore and they look happier than me. I know one guy my age who loves his wife more than ever now after 20 odd years. He wouldn't sleep with a hot woman to risk losing his wife, the idea is laughable to him. I think it might be because he has a daughter in her 20's, and when you are around that all the time you probably see that in essence, the girl in her 20's is just a kid. A KID.
-do I really want to have a girlfriend living with me? Meaning, am I willing to see her sick? Am I willing to acknowledge she's human? Do I have a hidden Madonna complex somewhere in my psyche? Am I willing to share my personal space with another human being after all this time alone?
- will sharing my life and spirit with another human being mean I have to face personal demons? Probably, and I think this is a big reason, a big one, why I don't look for a girlfriend. There are some nasty events in my past that I try to stay away from, and being around another person, soul to soul, would give rise to these, and they are painful and I'm not sure I can deal with them yet.

I think Owen is right, there ARE women out there, but they may not be perfect. Does she really have to be Christian? What if she's a good person? I know a Jehovahs Witness who is sixty years old, his wife is not religious, but she's a good enough woman for him to continue being married to. He seems happy, and she obviously loves him and takes care of him. Does she absolutely have to be able to have your children? What if you meet a good-hearted woman with kids who's husband died of cancer or some other tragedy? Do you think you could grow to love those kids? My biological father died of cancer, my step-father was a good dad to me for a while, I loved him. He took us on adventures! I loved him! for a while, then he got weird. : ( But before that, he was great, and I called him Dad. As a small boy, I needed him, when he got home from work I used to run to the door to greet him and give him a hug. Maybe you would like something like that?

If you're serious about looking I'd get a haircut and shave your beard. You can be good-looking in non-conventional sense. Then go shopping for a woman.
 

bucky

Ostrich
@Roosh - I watched a bit of the interview and Roosh ... man, you remind me of myself at 40. Owen is so right when he says 40 is young, IT IS! I thought I was done at 40. Game over. WRONG.

I'm 55 now. I've got the beginnings of turkey neck. My skin in areas like my elbows and below my knees is not rebounding back. I have two or three nice big creases down my cheeks. I have lines across my forehead. My hands are now showing liver spots and my forearms are show sun-damage spots. I remember stating in the 40 plus thread that the male wall is somewhere between 45 and 55, in my opinion. You are fine. Maybe consider shaving the beard one day, beards apparently age you in that they weigh-down the facial skin.

You can't find a wife? I'm with Owen on this one. I don't really buy it.

I've been celibate for fifteen years now. *I* should be a monk. I've had to really think about why this is.

-have I really tried to get a girlfriend? no, I haven't.
-why I haven't I really tried? this answer took a while to get to ... I had other excuses before this final answer. Because my self-esteem is low and I don't feel deserving of a beautiful girl.
-am I too picky? YES. I am too picky. My exes were all slim and pretty, one was exceptionally pretty. Can I be with a woman who is not slim and pretty? No. Unfortunately I can't seem to change this, and I genuinely want to, because I see men my age with woman who are obviously not 20 anymore and they look happier than me. I know one guy my age who loves his wife more than ever now after 20 odd years. He wouldn't sleep with a hot woman to risk losing his wife, the idea is laughable to him. I think it might be because he has a daughter in her 20's, and when you are around that all the time you probably see that in essence, the girl in her 20's is just a kid. A KID.
-do I really want to have a girlfriend living with me? Meaning, am I willing to see her sick? Am I willing to acknowledge she's human? Do I have a hidden Madonna complex somewhere in my psyche? Am I willing to share my personal space with another human being after all this time alone?
- will sharing my life and spirit with another human being mean I have to face personal demons? Probably, and I think this is a big reason, a big one, why I don't look for a girlfriend. There are some nasty events in my past that I try to stay away from, and being around another person, soul to soul, would give rise to these, and they are painful and I'm not sure I can deal with them yet.

I think Owen is right, there ARE women out there, but they may not be perfect. Does she really have to be Christian? What if she's a good person? I know a Jehovahs Witness who is sixty years old, his wife is not religious, but she's a good enough woman for him to continue being married to. He seems happy, and she obviously loves him and takes care of him. Does she absolutely have to be able to have your children? What if you meet a good-hearted woman with kids who's husband died of cancer or some other tragedy? Do you think you could grow to love those kids? My biological father died of cancer, my step-father was a good dad to me for a while, I loved him. He took us on adventures! I loved him! for a while, then he got weird. : ( But before that, he was great, and I called him Dad. As a small boy, I needed him, when he got home from work I used to run to the door to greet him and give him a hug. Maybe you would like something like that?

If you're serious about looking I'd get a haircut and shave your beard. You can be good-looking in non-conventional sense. Then go shopping for a woman.

Well said. One thing to remember is that once you have kids with your wife, you see her differently. I'm kind of in the same boat your are, in that my exes were all slim, feminine, beautiful girls and I think of myself as "deserving" that even though I'm pushing 50. My wife had our first kid, also her first, after 30 and having a kid the first time at that age inevitably does some damage to a woman's figure. Now she's closing in on 40 and although she makes some effort at staying in shape and eating right, her body obviously isn't quite what it was when she was still in her 20s when we first met.

I'm a horndog by nature and yes, I miss having a young girl with a perfect figure around but at the same time my wife is the mother of my children now, so no other woman can replace her. As much as the carnal side of me really, really wants to have a chick with a Cosmopolitan model's body walking around naked all the time as I was used to when I was younger, I want to give my children the gift of growing up with both of their parents under the same roof much more, and those two things are mutually exclusive.

So to both you and Roosh, I'd say that unless you're seriously considering the priesthood, focus on finding a woman of child bearing age, have kids, and devote your lives to them. Memories of young hotties and their physical perfection will pale in comparison, at least if you're at all a decent man.
 
He doesn't have to shave his beard. A beard is a great feature but trimming it would probably be advisable so it's a little less birds-nesty. Haircut might not hurt, but I do appreciate the 'Jesus look' once having donned it myself. The wavy hair really brings it out.

As someone almost Roosh's age on the other end of the formerly womanizing spectrum (whereas I had little success but am probably just as picky as you guys if not moreso) I am starting to see things differently. The last woman I was dating who was actually Christian wasn't ideal looking--but I loved her just the same. Granted, when we started dating I had a very difficult time getting past the imperfections (she was also 15 years older than me) however, I do see it as a good thing overall because I eventually stopped seeing them.
We were incompatible for marriage, but she's married now from what I understand and very happy. She looks back as I do at our time together with fond memories. We both grew as people, which is what I think true union with a woman is about: growing together, closer to God.

I do think though to fully embrace marriage as a sacrament Roosh should let his faith guide him. Maybe he's not meant to have a wife, but if he truly wants it in his heart then he can pray for it and I'm sure he will have his answer soon enough. I didn't realize the living situation was so rough though brother, if you want to move to Canada I can offer you a rental in a nice 6 bedroom house. Could likely land you the master bedroom (with in suite bathroom and jacuzzi bathtub)
 
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911

Peacock
Gold Member
I enjoyed one of his first big comedy specials. I’m not sure if it was Netflix or where I watched it, so I’ve been a fan of his for a few years. I caught part of the live stream with Roosh tonight and also Owen’s stream with Dr. Kaufman. Both times Owen mentioned the Turpentine thing. I’m curious on how that turned out for him. I could never find his before and after Turpentine reviews. Good to know he’s still Alive (the bottle says harmful or fatal if swallowed).

So I tried it the protocol, minus the castor oil. I only did half of the recommended dose of Turp and it was awful. It was not too bad tasting with the sugar, just an awful feeling the next day. I felt like I was hungover, a terrible hangover. The castor oil came in a few days later, but I don’t want to go through that again. I had a lot of free time during quarantine. :laughter:

Hope you used pure turpentine extract, and not the industrial paint stripping stuff... In any case I haven't tried it as I don't have any of the conditions it allegedly cures.
 

get2choppaaa

Pelican
I have watched Owen off and on for a couple years and came to his work around the time roosh was live streaming still in Europe. He has some very astute points, especially his commentary about art and logos vs the soviet union and architecture as a point of removing hope, anti trans, anti sodomy anti pornography ect...I also appreciate his intellect and ability to predict patterns, his desire to move his family to the country ect... However, the number of times he mentions penis and short people makes me wonder whats going on with the dude and why he as such a desire to project about others insecurities... I have heard from friends who bought into his unauthorized account and watched him make comments about his personal life and father, and have said there was a contingent of homosexuality ect.. I dont know if thats true, and am not trying to spread rumors, but I got that vibe when I was watching him that there are deep problems in his psyche... these things make me wonder about how much stock I should put into his prognostications.... I am happy to see him doing well with his family on his homestead, and wish him the best... that being said, I have to say,he long ago reached a point of culmination regarding challenging my intellectual curiosity, and i really view his persona more of as a joke which has played its punchline to its point of conclusion.
 

Mountaineer

Pelican
Gold Member
Very rarely if never you stumble upon a person that has the perfect character and knows all the answers. We are just men with flaws, each one different to his own. Very few people are a powerhouse of ideas that can keep up with your mental development. Every person has a purpose and every person shares ideas of different level for people in different stage of development. To judge a person you should ask yourself a simple question: does he/she share the path that I'm on? If the answer is 'yes' then you can do mighty well by one another, the rest simply being background noise.

I enjoyed this stream immensely. We should know our enemies but we shouldn't put the majority of our focus on evils of the world instead of what is good and healthy for us both is spiritual and material realm.
 
However, the number of times he mentions penis and short people makes me wonder whats going on with the dude and why he as such a desire to project about others insecurities... I have heard from friends who bought into his unauthorized account and watched him make comments about his personal life and father, and have said there was a contingent of homosexuality ect..
Just look at the image he picked to represent himself on unauthorized...knee up, explicitly pointing to his groin.
Like @Mountaineer said, no one is perfect. While Owen does a great job breaking things down and putting pieces together, I can only take him in small doses. His last interview with Roosh was a perfect example. Roosh gave him a brief intro and then asked “what happened?”. He must have felt the introduction was insufficient because instead of answering the question of what happened, he had to give a full history.
I haven’t listened to him since he got banned from podbean, does anyone know if there is a new podcast source? I commute so I can only listen, and I don’t have data.
 

Mountaineer

Pelican
Gold Member
He is kind of an intense dude and that can become wearisome after a while but it shouldn't be a discouragement if someone's still getting value from it.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
I have watched Owen off and on for a couple years and came to his work around the time roosh was live streaming still in Europe. He has some very astute points, especially his commentary about art and logos vs the soviet union and architecture as a point of removing hope, anti trans, anti sodomy anti pornography ect...I also appreciate his intellect and ability to predict patterns, his desire to move his family to the country ect... However, the number of times he mentions penis and short people makes me wonder whats going on with the dude and why he as such a desire to project about others insecurities... I have heard from friends who bought into his unauthorized account and watched him make comments about his personal life and father, and have said there was a contingent of homosexuality ect.. I dont know if thats true, and am not trying to spread rumors, but I got that vibe when I was watching him that there are deep problems in his psyche... these things make me wonder about how much stock I should put into his prognostications.... I am happy to see him doing well with his family on his homestead, and wish him the best... that being said, I have to say,he long ago reached a point of culmination regarding challenging my intellectual curiosity, and i really view his persona more of as a joke which has played its punchline to its point of conclusion.

About your friends here, this is at best a very dumb interpretation, and at worst a gratuitous slander. If anything, Owen is showing how destructive homosexuality is from his personal experience as the son of a wayward father, nothing more, nothing less.

There is only a small handful of people in the US that give incredibly solid advice to young men on the things that matter most the way Owen Benjamin does, like this segment here from a recent stream:

"... I had that, I'm so lucky, I'm so grateful that God allowed me to see through it, I was making a lot of money and given unlimited sex, and I got to see love in Amy, I got to see that my soul wasn't worth it, that transgender children is goddamn child abuse, that there's no amount of money that would silence me, that's there is no amount of pussy and mouth that would keep me from having a family with the one woman I love in the world... that's reality, they're trying to draw you away from real life, marriage, to have one woman you loves you is worth more than ALL the sex in the world from all these women, they don't love you, they would kill your baby..."


at the 1:04 mark. Not only essential advice, but great analysis on the psychology and mental methodoligy behind of the BLM riots.
 
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Very good interview with Roosh.

Owen is obviously very intelligent and seems to get bored with normal conversation.

The instinct to be funny overlaps with transgressing societal taboos (which is why SJWs are never funny). Charisma (& truth) dictates how well we accept their mockery. And, Owen is very charismatic and very funny.

No man is perfect. One of his flaws (which he admits in the interview) is that he manages stress & anxiety by compulsively "line stepping" in a self-destructive way. But, in fairness, he has said not to take him too seriously.

Finally, his advice to "plant your seed" and not focus on this or that "perfect" country is very wise. Comparing himself (and us) to the common folk in "Game of Thrones" is also funny and apt: live your life and stop focusing on the political machinations of the evil "Lannisters" and "Targaryens" of our age.
 

asdf

Robin
Love Owen. He is helping me on my journey through his guidance towards God, anti-pornography stance, and pro-family life.

But I really dislike it when he makes such an issue over the moon landing stuff. He seems to react very strongly to it while feigning or deflecting emotional attachment. Instead he accuses the moon landing believers of being overzealous. But what is even the point of making a huge deal out of that? Dont get it, i tend to skip those parts of his podcasts. I genuinely dont care if its real or not. I personally think it is real but if it turned out to be fake i would just feel very duped by the special effects people, and move on with my life. Its not like that really affected my life in one way or the other, unlike other direct threats to me such as pornography, drugs, debt etc.

Also seeing a penis in everything is ridiculous. No, an obelisk is absolutely not guaranteed to be a penis symbol. Its possible certainly as a theory, it could represent that while representing other things. But he claims it as fact which is just pure ignorance on his part. I think its also just a way for very ancient people to make a relatively tall structure very efficiently without moving the entire earth ie making a pyramid. Rockets are the same thing, they are design within the parameters of the end goal of efficiency in mind.

He really does better when he talks to Roosh because Roosh tends to stick to actionable reasonable advice, and faith focused talk.
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
...But I really dislike it when he makes such an issue over the moon landing stuff...
You have to admit, though, if the moon landing turned out to be fake, then us common people are a bunch of gullible idiots.

Outer space is 62 miles away. The moon is 238,000 miles away. Just because we can travel to space does not make it plausible that we can go all the way to the moon.

I can envision the deep state people laughing at us: "They actually believe that we went to the moon! Next, we'll tell them we went to Uranus or that we traveled through time. And they'll believe it!"
 

get2choppaaa

Pelican
You have to admit, though, if the moon landing turned out to be fake, then us common people are a bunch of gullible idiots.

Outer space is 62 miles away. The moon is 238,000 miles away. Just because we can travel to space does not make it plausible that we can go all the way to the moon.

I can envision the deep state people laughing at us: "They actually believe that we went to the moon! Next, we'll tell them we went to Uranus or that we traveled through time. And they'll believe it!"

I always look at it from the angle of : Regardless of whether or not we did/did not go to the moon, the fact that we have convinced our populous of its occurance, meanwhile the USSR/CHICOMS have convinced their populous we have not is a great show of belief in state propaganda/conditioning. Meanwhile, the US has shot down the idea that China landed on the dark side of the moon, yet China says they have... All 3 countries participate in the international space station... so all 3 are hoaxing? I've met astronauts whom seemed totally credible, and talked about the problems with giving our space programs to Russia/China during the Obama years...so add that to the complexity of the issue. Regardless, I am skeptical and tend to believe that convincing people that we landed on the moon allows for the state to replace the power of God with the power of science and the government. .
 
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