The Owen Benjamin Thread

NoMoreTO

Ostrich
I was entertained when he sat around the fire drinking white claws and ranting about jewish people. After he sobered up his message changed
He had some good deep dives and breakdowns of topics like the moon landing, spells, raising the witch, etc.

He might say interesting things sometimes, but I honestly don't have the time to listen for the gems in a 3 hour podcast.

He used to go on talking about how muslims are great. First, he denied the trinity, now he subscribes to an Aryan Heresy. So he is wide open season for criticism, the guy shouts down his own bears. The anti Trinity rants were not only blasphemous, but aggressive. I remember turning the guy off. It's one thing to work through ideas, it's another to assert yourself as an expert.

EMJ said it well, he should do some more reading and less talking.
 

get2choppaaa

Pelican
Isn't this just a type of Halo Effect of people who know "just enough" to get themselves in big time trouble?

Having an audience has been the downfall of many men, if they don't have a respect for its dangers, and thus, humility.
For a guys with a 6,000,000 IQ... he and Vox seem to be making a lot of errors based off of arrogance and pride.

We all have audiences though. Your family/wife/kids, your friends/work colleagues ... ect... Its your own belief in moral rectitude and intellectual superiority as espoused by the former calling everyone midwits that demonstrates a man who truly lives the "Pride Cometh before the Fall" mentality.
 
Off topic, but my eye fell on the opening of this topic:

This guy has been livestreaming like a madman every day recently. I have been enjoying his streams but today he was banned from live streaming by Youtube for 'pornography'. A David Attenborough BBC clip of monkeys having sex posted two years ago that was part of one his comedy videos.. :dodgy: That is the pornography that he was banned for.

Seeing how modern day videoclips look now which are outwardly and insistently promoted (cardi B, tekashi69), which are on the edge of genuine pornography, this ban seems a little off lol
 

RonaldB

Sparrow

Looking forward to watching this whole interview at some point. I hope Milo and company are able to get through to Owen.
Based on Owen's Instagram posts, he is not taking this intervention very well. Owen really doesn't want to believe in the Holy Trinity, and I think the only reason he is not lashing out at EMJ, Milo, and Dr. Brown it's because he respect them. I fully expect a before and after moment for Owen. If he keeps saying thinks like "the trinity is gay", then he no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt or our understanding. If someone doesn't want to believe a basic dogma of Christianity, then we should leave that person alone for good.
I still think that Owen can humble himself and stop blaspheming against the Holy Trinity, but if he doesn't then it's his choice.
 
The only reason owen is going hard on the hole trinity is because autistic people keep getting triggered and keep nagging him about it.
Dont get me wrong. He is wrong for not listening to people or to not at least read up on it.
As he himself has said. There are no sacred cows for him. I do understand what he is doing though. If thats all it takes to make people get emotionally triggered that means you are easily manipulable by other people.
If you have a book that has great information in it but you dont agree (it is wrong) with 10-20% of the authos opinion is it a horrible book? Is it worthless? Should you burn it?
 

JackAn

Pigeon
The only reason owen is going hard on the hole trinity is because autistic people keep getting triggered and keep nagging him about it.
Dont get me wrong. He is wrong for not listening to people or to not at least read up on it.
As he himself has said. There are no sacred cows for him. I do understand what he is doing though. If thats all it takes to make people get emotionally triggered that means you are easily manipulable by other people.
If you have a book that has great information in it but you dont agree (it is wrong) with 10-20% of the authos opinion is it a horrible book? Is it worthless? Should you burn it?
Before I read the Bible I used to tell quite a few lies in my life. When you want to sell a lie, you mix it with 80-90% truth. So yes. 10-20% of BS is enough for me to close the book and throw it away.

Also as someone with autistic brothers, I'm getting a little bit wound up with people using autistic people as an excuse. That is my excuse!
 

Enoch

Ostrich
The only reason owen is going hard on the hole trinity is because autistic people keep getting triggered and keep nagging him about it.
Dont get me wrong. He is wrong for not listening to people or to not at least read up on it.
As he himself has said. There are no sacred cows for him. I do understand what he is doing though. If thats all it takes to make people get emotionally triggered that means you are easily manipulable by other people.
If you have a book that has great information in it but you dont agree (it is wrong) with 10-20% of the authos opinion is it a horrible book? Is it worthless? Should you burn it?

I can understand homesteading with 3 kids and being irritated by urban, childless bugmen lecturing you on the nature of God.

The concept of Milo's trinity intervention is kind of hilarious but he ruined it by constantly muting Owen and talking over all his other guests. Still a good 90 minute listen. If you are a UA TV sub it is available in the Big Bear Bonus Stream part of the site.

I fail to see how people can't take the good parts of something and ignore the (as they perceive) bad parts.
 

Grow Bag

Kingfisher
I tried to listen to the intervention, but Owen Benjamin's love of his own opinions and lack of humility is too abrasive. When I've been full of myself, usually a fall follows and I think he's in for a big fall. That's how a loving God brings us down from the ivory tower and back down to earth.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Before I read the Bible I used to tell quite a few lies in my life. When you want to sell a lie, you mix it with 80-90% truth. So yes. 10-20% of BS is enough for me to close the book and throw it away.

Also as someone with autistic brothers, I'm getting a little bit wound up with people using autistic people as an excuse. That is my excuse!

The issue here is whether Owen is being willfully deceptive in those 10%-20% areas where he falls short, this is the difference between a sometime misguided pundit and an outright controlled opposition/shill. Owen is definitely not a shill. He is equally misguided in his endorsement and association with flat earther David Weiss, who is an outright deep state shill, but here again Owen is more of a victim of that cognitive infiltration psyop than a shill. His contributions are on the whole definitely positive, he's paid the price to get there.

I think it's also weirdly pathetic that Milo is somehow in a position to question the orthodoxy of Owen Benjamin, or for that matter his usual group of degenerate detractors.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Are you seriously trying to say that OB is somehow implicated in Ruby Ridge because his ranch is 2 hrs away??
 
I think it's also weirdly pathetic that Milo is somehow in a position to question the orthodoxy of Owen Benjamin, or for that matter his usual group of degenerate detractors.
Seems like a jewish gay guy who is known for being a trickster and a troll is more acceptable as long as he talks conveniently at the moment. But a person who seems to live a good moral life but doesnt seem to subscribe to the same doctrine is somehow worse in these people books. This is stupid beyond belief to me. I am learning about orthodox christianity and am leaning to be catechumen someday but this is stupid in my opinion. I have been watching owen a long time he kept talking about gammas smearing him. Never believed him until recently when i actually started looking at reddit and some of the youtube content creaters obsessed with him. People who hate the guy yet seem to watch his every stream.... I am starting tk realise how these gammas actually look like and its scary how pathetic it looks like and how animalistic they are. I respect e.michael jones and rachel fulton brown but the intervention was a dumb idea IMO and being people of older age I would have assumed they talked with him in private about it and if nothing happened then that would be that. If you know owen then you know. The more you will push him against his will the more he will double down on shit. So you basically making it worse for him and for the viewers for pressing it. Thw best advice for this crap would be to just advise him to stop talking about this stuff because it helps no one.

But now. Look at this giant gamma wall of text...
In my eyes everyone has dropped a notch. That means nothing but for me it is sad.
 

JackAn

Pigeon
Are you seriously trying to say that OB is somehow implicated in Ruby Ridge because his ranch is 2 hrs away??

No. But don't you think it is a bit weird?
I thought Owen Benjamin viewers were woke to wizardry? You haven't been drinking turpentine have you?

"The word cult gets thrown around a lot today. So often when we hear "this is a cult", we roll our eyes. But make no mistake Owen Benjamin and his loyal Bears are a cult. They are the very textbook definition.
  1. They have a very charismatic cult leader
  2. He is unquestionably correct or you are a gamma
  3. None of his judgements can be questioned or you will be ostracized from the group
  4. His doctrines and teachings are unaccountable, they are not written down anywhere, he can change them on a whim, however he feels that day is the doctrine of the group
  5. The Bears are subject to economic exploitation
  6. They have daily brainwashing sessions, hours long, multiple times a day"
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No. But don't you think it is a bit weird?
I thought Owen Benjamin viewers were woke to wizardry? You haven't been drinking turpentine have you?

"The word cult gets thrown around a lot today. So often when we hear "this is a cult", we roll our eyes. But make no mistake Owen Benjamin and his loyal Bears are a cult. They are the very textbook definition.
  1. They have a very charismatic cult leader
  2. He is unquestionably correct
  3. None of his judgements can be questioned or you will be ostracized from the group
  4. His doctrines and teachings are unaccountable, they are not written down anywhere, he can change them on a whim, however he feels that day is the doctrine of the group
  5. The Bears are subject to economic exploitation
  6. They have daily brainwashing sessions, hours long, multiple times a day"
8RGgYPq.png
Have you watched a lot of cult documenteries? Or studied the phenomenon? I have done at least the stupidies thing of watching a decent amount of documentaries on the subject to know thatit is not a cult. Is jay dyer a cult leader? He sure does get very angry and childish when he debates people and he gets donations from people. Talks multiple hours each week etc. I agree owen is a dick dont get me wrong and he has a huge pride issue. So you can hate the guy all you want gamma. But dont smear the guy for being what he is not. People who are in public eye are incredibly easy to judge. I admit of that myself. It is a classic pit and pedestal effect. You have judged him a monster without any redemption or full scope of what he is. There are many people who have looked at him as an angel of light amd when they saw him being human claimed that he is the devil. I trully do not understand these people.....
 

JackAn

Pigeon
Have you watched a lot of cult documenteries? Or studied the phenomenon? I have done at least the stupidies thing of watching a decent amount of documentaries on the subject to know thatit is not a cult. Is jay dyer a cult leader? He sure does get very angry and childish when he debates people and he gets donations from people. Talks multiple hours each week etc. I agree owen is a dick dont get me wrong and he has a huge pride issue. So you can hate the guy all you want gamma. But dont smear the guy for being what he is not. People who are in public eye are incredibly easy to judge. I admit of that myself. It is a classic pit and pedestal effect. You have judged him a monster without any redemption or full scope of what he is. There are many people who have looked at him as an angel of light amd when they saw him being human claimed that he is the devil. I trully do not understand these people.....

I didn't really want to respond to this petty gossipy shite. But you leave me no choice

https://odysee.com/@PeoplesPopulist...d-the-Beg-Bear-An-Owen-Benjamin-Documentary:1

When did I say he had no path to redemption? Not once.

I have never given Jay Dyer a penny. No I tell a lie, I bought his books off amazon once, im sure he got some pennies from that. I'm not sure what that has to do with this. I don't get my information on OB from JD. Has JD started a compound at the site of Ruby Ridge with follower donations?
 

tychomaz

Sparrow
Have you watched a lot of cult documenteries? Or studied the phenomenon? I have done at least the stupidies thing of watching a decent amount of documentaries on the subject to know thatit is not a cult. Is jay dyer a cult leader? He sure does get very angry and childish when he debates people and he gets donations from people. Talks multiple hours each week etc. I agree owen is a dick dont get me wrong and he has a huge pride issue. So you can hate the guy all you want gamma. But dont smear the guy for being what he is not. People who are in public eye are incredibly easy to judge. I admit of that myself. It is a classic pit and pedestal effect. You have judged him a monster without any redemption or full scope of what he is. There are many people who have looked at him as an angel of light amd when they saw him being human claimed that he is the devil. I trully do not understand these people.....

"I will never be angry at another Bear"

This reminds me of the modern (per)version of Matthew 5:22 which says the exact same thing.

False version(NASB, missing "without a cause"):

But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be answerable to the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘[k]You good-for-nothing,’ shall be answerable to [l]the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the [m]fiery hell.

KJV("without a cause"):

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

The false bible version puts the Christian in a spiritually untenable position because sooner or later you will be angry at a brother in Christ. Not unlike the bear tenet above.

By the way, if there is any doubt that the KJV version is correct, you can cross reference Ephesians 4:26

Ephesians 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
 
I didn't really want to respond to this petty gossipy shite. But you leave me no choice

https://odysee.com/@PeoplesPopulist...d-the-Beg-Bear-An-Owen-Benjamin-Documentary:1

When did I say he had no path to redemption? Not once.

I have never given Jay Dyer a penny. No I tell a lie, I bought his books off amazon once, im sure he got some pennies from that. I'm not sure what that has to do with this. I don't get my information on OB from JD. Has JD started a compound at the site of Ruby Ridge with follower donations?
I see you Gamma.
 
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