The path to Civil War 2 (USA)

jeffreyjerpp

Kingfisher
Deepdiver said:
Level 5: Unleashing planned invasion of America with Chinese and UN troops

Finally, if the direct assassination attempt fails, the deep state will unleash an international war that will invite Communist Chinese and U.N. troops to invade and occupy the United States through California and the Southern border, respectively.
This is completely insane, and I would recommend not posting stuff like this on the forum.

I say that as someone who listened to Alex Jones for years and had to stop because of stuff like this.

There is zero, I mean ZERO chance anything like this happens, at all.

Do you seriously think the American military would allow this?? The globalists, who cannot even manage the international financial system without blowing it up once every ten years, will successfully start some crazy war, which somehow induces Americans and their military to accept mass occupation by the Chinese??

What planet are you living on?!?!

There's not going to be a hot civil war, probably ever. Just the relentless, slow grind of smaller oppressions, until a decade or so from now the country is no longer recognizable, and our sacred freedoms have been crushed into dust.

You can already see how they'll tighten the noose, slowly but surely. A few gun restrictions here, "hate speech" laws there, bank accounts cancelled if you openly contradict PC narratives....resistance is futile, because the masses already accept it. A foregone conclusion.

I hate to black pill like that, but it's already happened in Europe, England being the prime example. There was never any "New World Order" plan, just the late stages of empire collapsing in on itself, leaving depraved chaos in its wake.
 

questor70

Ostrich
It's almost a cliche' that the US break up into ideologically oriented zones (at the very least, red vs. blue). I think this is a very distinct possibility. Once the first state successfully secedes it would probably pave the way for all the others to follow through.

This one's a little dated but there are a lot of maps like this and they make sense to me.

 

Dallas Winston

Ostrich
Gold Member
questor70 said:
It's almost a cliche' that the US break up into ideologically oriented zones (at the very least, red vs. blue). I think this is a very distinct possibility. Once the first state successfully secedes it would probably pave the way for all the others to follow through.

This one's a little dated but there are a lot of maps like this and they make sense to me.

^ Walmarshlands..

:laugh:
 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
If the Global elites do eventually control China, and Trump is helping them with this with the trade tariffs hurting the Chinese govt. and people and forcing them to eventually choose low interest loans of the elites, then I don't think a few guys with AR-15's and pick-ups will stand much of a chance. I am not even sure if our military would have a chance against China in 2019, much less as things get progressively worse. Here is an example of US v. China in military development.

 

RexImperator

Crow
Gold Member
I am not even sure if our military would have a chance against China in 2019,
The US is stronger now, but if trends continue, by 2030 or so Chinese military spending should equal US military spending and then overtake it.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
RexImperator said:
I am not even sure if our military would have a chance against China in 2019,
The US is stronger now, but if trends continue, by 2030 or so Chinese military spending should equal US military spending and then overtake it.
To the extent the US budget military even gets spent on the US military, the financial amounts actually reaching the forces probably already favors China.

From Vox Day.

A shadow over Minneapolis

The latest conspiracy news out of /pol/ points at the military-industrial complex in... Minnesota, of all places:

Last week at work I traced a massive subcontractors mysterious source to someone who is currently running for President.

The company produces nothing, I found it because we gained access to an area of this company that no one has been given access to before by a new employee not fully in the know. What we found were 165 items each individually valued at over $1,000,000 missing, all ordered in quarter 1 of 2019.

Our audit further lead us to investigate quietly and trace back over $10 Billion of undelivered, but paid for, Navy equipment and materials, and it all goes through the same subcontractor.

The subcontractor is fully owned by a shell company which shares a physical location with it but with two different street address, which are actually on two different street because it is a corner facility, very smart. During this process of tracking the missing items we went to the subcontractors facility to find it........completely empty. The two companies have a single office with some desks in it and over 400,000 square feet of empty warehouse in the middle of nowhere West Georgia.

Further tracking the shell company we found that it is owned by another shell company, which in turn is owned by a company which owns 5 luxury car dealerships, a big four professional American Sports Franchise, a VERY liberal movie studio, all of which have been noted as being unprofitable, and this single Navy Contractor.

The family that owns this company has a current Senator and a Current Presidential Candidate in it.
Translation: Amy Klobuchar, the Pohlad family, the Minnesota Twins, and River Road Entertainment, which produced 12 Years a Slave and Brokeback Mountain, among others.

I have to admit, it's a little bit bizarre to read about this, especially in light of the way I could still probably drive River Road, which connects the North campus to the South campus of the private school I attended, while wearing a blindfold.

But it certainly stinks of Deep State satanry. Do what they tell you to do, say what they want you to say, and even if all the world will not be yours, you'll be very well compensated for your obedience. And it also explains why, despite spending more money on the military than most of the countries in the world combined, the US military keeps falling further behind the Russian military in terms of deployable technologies.
 

Deepdiver

Hummingbird
Gold Member
jeffreyjerpp said:
Deepdiver said:
Level 5: Unleashing planned invasion of America with Chinese and UN troops

Finally, if the direct assassination attempt fails, the deep state will unleash an international war that will invite Communist Chinese and U.N. troops to invade and occupy the United States through California and the Southern border, respectively.
This is completely insane, and I would recommend not posting stuff like this on the forum.

I say that as someone who listened to Alex Jones for years and had to stop because of stuff like this.

There is zero, I mean ZERO chance anything like this happens, at all.

Do you seriously think the American military would allow this?? The globalists, who cannot even manage the international financial system without blowing it up once every ten years, will successfully start some crazy war, which somehow induces Americans and their military to accept mass occupation by the Chinese??

What planet are you living on?!?!

There's not going to be a hot civil war, probably ever. Just the relentless, slow grind of smaller oppressions, until a decade or so from now the country is no longer recognizable, and our sacred freedoms have been crushed into dust.

You can already see how they'll tighten the noose, slowly but surely. A few gun restrictions here, "hate speech" laws there, bank accounts cancelled if you openly contradict PC narratives....resistance is futile, because the masses already accept it. A foregone conclusion.

I hate to black pill like that, but it's already happened in Europe, England being the prime example. There was never any "New World Order" plan, just the late stages of empire collapsing in on itself, leaving depraved chaos in its wake.
The Planet I am living on is the Planet of Reality and the history I not only lived through but helped to make. If you had told me when I was serving on nuke boats that one day the Democrat working man's patriots party would morph into the Democrat Socialist/Communist Party of the USA paving the way for one world gov CCP style One Party Rule and that the left coast Pols/Dems would literally sell out to the Communist Freaking Red Chinese over the past 40 years I would have called you crazy. Turns out that I was delusionally patriotic and the USA is being fractured from within largely as a result of the Globalists working and conspiring with the CCP.

There was some hope that the US Miltary would not let this happen (Google Dr. Jerome Corsi YT Presentation about the US Military contacting him to help plan a Military Coup when Obama was selling the US out to Iran and China (Via the Bidens). Generals decided to work within the Constitution to fight the traitors/CCP conspirators when Donald J. Trump agreed to run for them.

Now, however, the US Military has been focusing on promoting Diversity and TransFag GloboHomo acceptance while the Chinese just displayed an extremely effective level of Discipline and massive new Hypersonic Mobile MIRV Nuclear Missile Systems that can hit the USA with 600 independently targeted warheads in less than 30 minutes - many hypersonic missiles will escape our missile defense systems and thanks to Obama and Biden's soft stance of the CCP we have been caught with our pants around our ankles while the Chinese charge forward on all fronts Financial, Currency, Trade, Belt and Road Economic diplomacy, Cyberwarfare and yes Nuclear Warfighting capabilities.

I put a high value on the shocking truths coming out of Mike Adams and Alex Jones - the DemCommies have used their constant attacks on the Trump MAGA Patriots agenda to serve their paymasters in Beijing.

Shocking that the Chinese have made so much progress and are pushing forward on all fronts while supporting the collapse of the USA economy and social order...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFjQGWdICmc
Top trends researcher Gerald Celente is bullish on gold because debt is exploding globally. Celente is bullish on gold and explains, “I have been saying for more than five years that gold had to break over $1,450 (per ounce). Once it solidly broke over that, it’s going to head for $2,000 (per ounce). The downside risk to gold is $1,390. . . . I see gold moving to $2,000 (per ounce) possibly before the end of this year. . . . They know the monetary policy is running out of juice". So, now, they are promoting more fiscal policy, which means governments going deeper into debt to spend more money to boost up the failing economy rather than let the economic fundamentals take their own route. All they are interested in doing is keeping the bigs (rich people) growing. This is going to be worse than the Great Recession, and as I said, this is going to be the Greatest Depression, worse than the Great Depression. The Great Recession was a bottom-up collapse. This collapse is going to come from the top down. It’s that 1% that has it all, and when it starts falling apart and they can’t prop it up anymore, that’s the crash. That’s when it’s going to be bad.”

This is why I read everything I can over at the Nomad Capitalist to be prepared and know where in the world I will be treated best and where I can be safe and not need to travel in an up-armored SUV and live in radiation filtered and shielded bunkers.

https://nomadcapitalist.com/about/

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Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member


The envelope will be pushed further, especially as budget cuts blow out 911 response times and the hyenas keep pushing further into the old lion's cave sensing that he really is dead.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Virginia Senate Bill No. 64.

SENATE BILL NO. 64
Offered January 8, 2020
Prefiled November 21, 2019
A BILL to amend and reenact § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia, relating to paramilitary activities; penalty.
———-
Patron– Lucas
———-
Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
———-
Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:
1. That § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:

§ 18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited; penalty.

A person shall be is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he:

1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.
 

Salinger

Woodpecker
jeffreyjerpp said:
Deepdiver said:
Level 5: Unleashing planned invasion of America with Chinese and UN troops

Finally, if the direct assassination attempt fails, the deep state will unleash an international war that will invite Communist Chinese and U.N. troops to invade and occupy the United States through California and the Southern border, respectively.
This is completely insane, and I would recommend not posting stuff like this on the forum.

I say that as someone who listened to Alex Jones for years and had to stop because of stuff like this.

There is zero, I mean ZERO chance anything like this happens, at all.

Do you seriously think the American military would allow this?? The globalists, who cannot even manage the international financial system without blowing it up once every ten years, will successfully start some crazy war, which somehow induces Americans and their military to accept mass occupation by the Chinese??

What planet are you living on?!?!

There's not going to be a hot civil war, probably ever. Just the relentless, slow grind of smaller oppressions, until a decade or so from now the country is no longer recognizable, and our sacred freedoms have been crushed into dust.

You can already see how they'll tighten the noose, slowly but surely. A few gun restrictions here, "hate speech" laws there, bank accounts cancelled if you openly contradict PC narratives....resistance is futile, because the masses already accept it. A foregone conclusion.

I hate to black pill like that, but it's already happened in Europe, England being the prime example. There was never any "New World Order" plan, just the late stages of empire collapsing in on itself, leaving depraved chaos in its wake.
Exactly. And without one team wearing grey and the other blue, there's no way to identify the enemy anyways.

It's just a slow boil until the end game.
 

NoMoreTO

Ostrich
Oberrheiner said:
So, going to the range is now illegal ?
for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or
The crucial legal conecept in the first couple of parts seems to be the idea of doing so with an intent for civil disorder. I thought in a free nation there was space for disorder. I can understand this in Canada where our objectives are 'Peace, Order, And Good Governance'. But this runs contrary to the American 'Liberty'.

I wonder how they will begin to establish this. Belonging to a 'hate group' and 'red flag' seem to be the trend. This idea of 'Civil Disorder' could be a little different, perhaps if there are protests in your town, or civil disorder due to migrants, all Gun ranges will be shut down.

It's ironic how revolutions go full circle.
 
Disclaimer: I do not advocate violent separation. I advocate separation through peaceful means. I wish for everyone to return to God and live in peace and leave each other to their own devices.

It is my estimation that a conflict is going to happen, balkanization of the USA at a minimum. The 'great sorting' whereby people in this country are currently relocating to their 'tribe' has been underway for over a decade. The factions are becoming more and more defined. Above all, the murmuring is widespread and cannot be silenced. It's only a matter of time before the murmurs become shouts. At this moment in time, in-group (tribal) preferences of a polity supersede those of the federation-group preferences (whats good for the federation is no longer good for our tribe) and the market for separation will demand satisfaction.

No public official has proposed the obvious solution that all the factions are thinking, but once it is proposed, it is only a matter of time before what is pondered by all is brought into being. We (the tribes) can no longer live together peacefully. The Federal Government will only exacerbate this by its integrationalist policy via imposition (force) and the market for separation will grow even more. Bottom line: The unity of the tribes can only be sustained by force. We are all feeling this. Every aspect of our lives (cultural, economical, racial, linguastically, spiritual) is feeling the crunch and we all want something different. It is the most asymmetrical society in history.

The point is, there are people who have done plenty of thinking and, very soon, they are going to call for people to show up. The people of the Propertarian institute are the only people that have put forward viable solutions to the Western conundrum. They intend to call for a change.

One of the members made a video about a Civil War. The intent was to provide a basic analysis, but more than anything, it was to get people talking about it.


Below are a few excerpts from the founder of the propertarian institute (curt doolittle). They intend to make a serious matter of this. Their entire declaration of separation is posted https://propertarianism.com/revolution/declaration/






 

It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
I'm not sure if this should go in the Mike Cernovich thread, because he is very brave to post and discuss this important matter, or if it should go here in the civil war thread. It really could go in both, but we know where this will lead and the political leaders on both sides are not going to do anything to prevent it.

 

NoMoreTO

Ostrich
Texas could be ground zero. I think you're best in the mid west - Kansas, Wyoming etc.

There is too much money, oil, and too many Texans in Texas. Theres' gonna be some fighting there
 
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