The path to Civil War 2 (USA)

Dallas Winston

Ostrich
Gold Member
It_is_my_time said:
Bringing the pain to the people that thought they could escape Democrat voters by moving one exit down the road into a $700,000 house.

It's pretty much what the libs/dems did in the 20th century with social engineering in the inner cities. They deliberately moved poor minorities to the middle of ethnic (Polish, Irish, Germans, etc) Catholic parishes/neighborhoods in the cities. They moved in poor southern sharecroppers ,etc. to places like Chicago, Philadelphia, and others. This caused "white flight", thus destroying much of the formerly safe American inner cities of the 30s, 40s, 50s, etc.

E. Michael Jones wrote"The Slaughter of Cities" about this. Here's an interview on that subject with him:


This slaughter of cities created the suburbs when the inner city neighborhoods were abandoned by many. They all moved to 'the burbs'.

Now, they're going after the suburbs: "The slaughter of the suburbs" The annhilation will be complete.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
As noted elsewhere, running is a personal strategy but not a viable long term political solution. The Bolsheviks are going to run their ethnic purges just like the did elsewhere. Resistors will hang together or be hanged separately.
 

VNvet

Kingfisher
Leonard D Neubache said:
As noted elsewhere, running is a personal strategy but not a viable long term political solution. The Bolsheviks are going to run their ethnic purges just like the did elsewhere. Resistors will hang together or be hanged separately.
White people mostly want to be left alone - we've been running from the horde, or oppressive rulers, for thousands of years. India, Iran, and Afghanistan were white at one point. You can still see remnants of white DNA in those people, cultures, and religion if you look closely.

The cold European winter likely kept the warm-weather horde away for a long time. It wasn't until white people invented electricity and office jobs that the invasion of Europe was even feasible.

Not really sure how we get out of this situation in the long-term, but we will live on... somewhere. The infrastructure (matrix control grid) will fail as the demographics change, and I'm skeptical that AI is all that it's claimed.

Honestly, the future doesn't look as bleak as many here think.
 

Aurini

Ostrich
VNvet said:
Honestly, the future doesn't look as bleak as many here think.
We've hit/we are hitting the demographic cliff; that's unfortunately true. However, their side is a rag-tag horde of splinter groups, none of who share any vision beyond "White Man Bad", and most of whom are too stupid to organize a picnic. We're the ones who woke up early to the shift; but by the time we're down to 30%, your average normie will be forced to notice.

This is why they're trying so desperately to censor something that can't really be censored (the Internet), and throwing up false leaders like Jordan Peterson to distract us. Because the battle may be lost, but the war ain't over.
 

kel

Pelican
Doug1943 said:
Needless to say, everyone should arm themselves as quickly as possible. An AR15, two thousand rounds of ammuntion, and a dozen magazines will cost less than $1500. Proper outfitting will require other things, but the other items are not likely to be made illegal soon. If you have the money, acquire two of everything, and double the ammunition load. A friend or relative might want to buy the second set for you, as a gift. If they succeed in outlawing assault rifles, yours were given to an elderly relative in another sate, or lost overboard in a boating accident.
I want to do this, and the money is not the issue, but my state is very strict about these things and I'm worried about buying it from another state and I'm worried that no matter where or how I buy it, buying two semi-automatic rifles and several thousand rounds of ammunition is going to set off some bells somewhere.

The right time to buy weaponry was decades ago. Now it seems like a sure way to get put in a database of people they'll come blackvan. I'd like to get my personal defense arms privately, but I don't know anyone.
 

Easy_C

Crow
It's extremely odd advice as given.

Furthermore having everyone join the guard seems like a good way to get them sent off to die in the Middle East.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
kel said:
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The right time to buy weaponry was decades ago. Now it seems like a sure way to get put in a database of people they'll come blackvan. I'd like to get my personal defense arms privately, but I don't know anyone.
I don't think you should be too paranoid. There are a LOT of guys with black rifles and most of them are probably a lot higher on the visit list than you.

Door to door confiscation is a boogeyman that's not going to happen short of a truly severe dislocation of everyday life. At that point people are either rebelling openly or they're not and you can either choose to join in with them or not.

What you absolutely don't want is to find yourself in a situation where the government fails to maintain law and order in your region and you're left with nothing but your donger in your hand.

You have to realise that thousands of these rifles are being sold every day to guys who also buy ammunition literally by the pallet load. If you're not currently involved in shady dealings or don't have a social media account riddled with militia stuff then they really don't have the time to bother with you.

Government oppression works primarily by causing fearful people to oppress themselves. Something you should do your best to avoid.
 

Greyman

Sparrow
Gotta be your own advocate man...

1. Know that the right of self defense is inherent unto all of God's creatures so I stipulate Man is no different and shall not be restricted by birth status nor national sovereignty...(i.e. don't matter where you're born nor what you look like, equality is that everyone has the same line to plant their feet at the start of the race of life...)

2. Now, know the law and read what you can and can't do according to man's law in and of the Nation (state) you reside in.

3. Get out and VOTE and BE ACTIVE in local, state and national elections...:)tard: yea I know, but it supposedly takes only a stanch, immovable 10% of a given population speaking in unison to change the course of societies trajectory...)

4. Assess your aversion to risk/reward and personal ethos....Seriously.

5. Don't be fuckin' lazy. Big boy rules kinda apply on a two way shooting range, do your homework and if needed, there are always good veterans and knowledgeable men who are more than willing to pass on knowledge.

This is not a game. Not every man was born to be a pipe hitter; but every Citizen has the right for self determination and self defense...man's law at times tries to forfeit that premise when its citizenry gets weak.

https://www.80percentarms.com/

After that: Read this former SF guys material for info and an all around good laugh....

https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com/


kel said:
Doug1943 said:
Needless to say, everyone should arm themselves as quickly as possible. An AR15, two thousand rounds of ammuntion, and a dozen magazines will cost less than $1500. Proper outfitting will require other things, but the other items are not likely to be made illegal soon. If you have the money, acquire two of everything, and double the ammunition load. A friend or relative might want to buy the second set for you, as a gift. If they succeed in outlawing assault rifles, yours were given to an elderly relative in another sate, or lost overboard in a boating accident.
I want to do this, and the money is not the issue, but my state is very strict about these things and I'm worried about buying it from another state and I'm worried that no matter where or how I buy it, buying two semi-automatic rifles and several thousand rounds of ammunition is going to set off some bells somewhere.

The right time to buy weaponry was decades ago. Now it seems like a sure way to get put in a database of people they'll come blackvan. I'd like to get my personal defense arms privately, but I don't know anyone.
 

Dusty

Peacock
Gold Member
Democrats are laying the groundwork for revolution right in front of our eyes.
As if 2020 were not insane enough already, we now have Democrats and their ruling class masters openly talking about staging a coup. You might have missed it, what with the riots, lockdowns and other daily mayhem we’re forced to endure in this, the most wretched year of my lifetime. But it’s happening.

It started with the military brass quietly indicating that the troops should not follow a presidential order. They were bolstered by many former generals—including President Trump’s own first Secretary of Defense—who stated openly what the brass would only hint at. Then, as nationwide riots really got rolling in early June, the sitting Secretary of Defense himself all but publicly told the president not to invoke the Insurrection Act. His implicit message was: “Mr. President, don’t tell us to do that, because we won’t, and you know what happens after that.”

All this enthused Joe Biden, who threw subtlety to the winds. The former United States Senator (for 26 years) and Vice President (for eight) has not once, not twice, but thrice confidently asserted that the military will “escort [Trump] from the White House with great dispatch” should the president refuse to leave. Another former Vice President, Al Gore, publicly agreed.

One might dismiss such comments as the ravings of a dementia patient and a has-been who never got over his own electoral loss. But before you do, consider also this. Over the summer a story was deliberately leaked to the press of a meeting at which 100 Democratic grandees, anti-Trump former Republicans, and other ruling class apparatchiks got together (on George Soros’s dime) to “game out” various outcomes of the 2020 election. One such outcome was a clear Trump win. In that eventuality, former Bill Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta, playing Biden, refused to concede, pressured states that Trump won to send Democrats to the formal Electoral College vote, and trusted that the military would take care of the rest.

The leaked report from the exercise darkly concluded that “technocratic solutions, courts, and reliance on elites observing norms are not the answer here,” promising that what would follow the November election would be “a street fight, not a legal battle.”

Two more data points (among several that could be provided). Over the summer, two former Army officers, both prominent in the Democrat-aligned “national security” think tank world, wrote an open letter to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in which they urged him to deploy the 82nd Airborne Division to drag President Trump from the Oval Office at precisely 12:01 PM, January 20, 2021.

About a month later, Hillary Clinton declared publicly that Joe Biden should not concede the election “under any circumstances.” The old English major in me interprets the word “any” to mean “no,” “none,” “nada,” “niente,” “zero,” “zilch” “bupkis”…you get the idea.

This doesn’t sound like the rhetoric of a political party confident it will win an upcoming election.

The Cover-Up in Plain Sight

These items are, to repeat, merely a short but representative list of what Byron York recently labeled “coup porn.” York seems to think this is just harmless fantasizing on the part of the ruling class and its Democratic servants. For some of them, no doubt that’s true. But for all of them? I’m not so sure.

In his famously exhaustive discussion of conspiracies, Machiavelli goes out of his way to emphasize the indispensability of “operational security”—i.e., silence—to success. The first rule of conspiracy is, you do not talk about the conspiracy. The second rule of conspiracy is, you do not talk about the conspiracy.
So why are the Democrats—publicly—talking about the conspiracy?

Because they know that, for it to succeed, it must not look like a conspiracy. They need to plant the idea in the public mind, now, that their unlawful and illegitimate removal of President Trump from office will somehow be his fault.
Never mind the pesky detail that the president would refuse to leave only if he were convinced he legitimately won. Remember: Biden should not concede under any circumstances.

The second part of the plan is either to produce enough harvested ballots—lawfully or not—to tip close states, or else dispute the results in close states and insist, no matter what the tally says, that Biden won them. The worst-case scenario (for the country, but not for the ruling class) would be results in a handful of states that are so ambiguous and hotly disputed that no one can rightly say who won. Of course, that will not stop the Democrats from insisting that they won.

The public preparation for that has also already begun: streams of stories and social media posts “explaining” how, while on election night it might look as if Trump won, close states will tip to Biden as all the mail-in ballots are “counted.”

The third piece is to get the vast and loud Dem-Left propaganda machine ready for war. That leaked report exhorted Democrats to identify “key influencers in the media and among local activists who can affect political perceptions and mobilize political action…[who could] establish pre-commitments to playing a constructive role in event of a contested election.” I.e., in blaring from every rooftop that “Trump lost.”

At this point, it’s safe to assume that unless Trump wins in a blowout that can’t be overcome by cheating and/or denied via the ruling class’s massive propaganda operation, that’s exactly what every Democratic politician and media organ will shout.

Stop the Presses

What then? The Podesta assumption is that the military will side with the Dems. There are reasons to fear they might. The Obama administration spent a great deal of political capital purging the officer corps of anyone not down with the program and promoting only those who are.

Still and all, determining the outcome of an election would be the most open political interference possible from our allegedly apolitical military, and it’s plausible that the brass won’t want to make its quiet support of the ruling class agenda that overt. The aforementioned Chairman has already stated that the military will play “no role” in the outcome of the election. That’s probably not a feint, but one wonders if it will hold given the obvious attempt to influence military thinking by people like Jeffrey Goldberg in his recent Atlantic essay.

Can the Dems rely on the Secret Service to drag Trump out? I have my doubts on this one. I’ve seen the Service up close; it really is (or strongly appears to be) apolitical. It has a job to do: protect the president, whoever that is. Officers take that job very seriously. If they don’t believe Trump lost, I don’t think they can be counted on to oust him. On the other hand, were they to believe he did lose and was refusing to leave—a scenario I find impossible to imagine but the Democrats insist is just around the corner—it’s possible the Service might act.

Barring all that, what’s left? Remember that phrase from the Dem war game: “street fight.” In other words, a repeat of this summer, only much, much bigger. Crank the propaganda to ear-drum shattering decibels and fill the streets of every major city with “protesters.” Shut down the country and allow only one message to be heard: “Trump must go.”
I.e., what’s come to be known as a “color revolution,” the exact same playbook the American deep state runs in other countries whose leadership they don’t like and is currently running in Belarus. Oust a leader—even an elected one—through agitation and call it “democracy.”

The events of the last few months may be interpreted as an attempted color revolution that failed to gain enough steam, or as a trial run for the fall. Is the Trump Administration prepared?

Here’s one thing they could do: play their own “war game” scenario so as to game out possibilities and minimize surprises. They should also be talking to people inside and outside of government whom they absolutely trust to get a clearer sense of who on the inside won’t go along with a coup and who might.

They also need to set up or shore up—now—communication channels that don’t rely on the media or Big Tech. Once the ruling class gives word that the narrative is “Trump lost,” all the president’s social media accounts will be suspended. The T.V. channels, with the likely exception of Fox News, will refuse to cover anything he says. Count on it. He’s going to need a way to talk to the American people and he has to find the means, now.

For the rest of us, the most important thing we can do is raise awareness. If there is a conspiracy to remove President Trump from office even if he wins, they’re telling you about it precisely to get you ready for it, so that when it happens you won’t think it was a conspiracy; you’ll blame the president.
Don’t be fooled.

 
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Easy_C

Crow
yes, we know. However there does appear to be a substantive difference between Trump's faction and the others. Most importantly, Trump's clan of jew-friends don't appear to be part of the Green New Deal (aka "Great Reset") conspiracy whereas a lot of leading politicians are tied to the Gates Machine.
 

homersheineken

Woodpecker
Democrats are laying the groundwork for revolution right in front of our eyes.
As if 2020 were not insane enough already, we now have Democrats and their ruling class masters openly talking about staging a coup. You might have missed it, what with the riots, lockdowns and other daily mayhem we’re forced to endure in this, the most wretched year of my lifetime. But it’s happening.

It started with the military brass quietly indicating that the troops should not follow a presidential order. They were bolstered by many former generals—including President Trump’s own first Secretary of Defense—who stated openly what the brass would only hint at. Then, as nationwide riots really got rolling in early June, the sitting Secretary of Defense himself all but publicly told the president not to invoke the Insurrection Act. His implicit message was: “Mr. President, don’t tell us to do that, because we won’t, and you know what happens after that.”

All this enthused Joe Biden, who threw subtlety to the winds. The former United States Senator (for 26 years) and Vice President (for eight) has not once, not twice, but thrice confidently asserted that the military will “escort [Trump] from the White House with great dispatch” should the president refuse to leave. Another former Vice President, Al Gore, publicly agreed.

One might dismiss such comments as the ravings of a dementia patient and a has-been who never got over his own electoral loss. But before you do, consider also this. Over the summer a story was deliberately leaked to the press of a meeting at which 100 Democratic grandees, anti-Trump former Republicans, and other ruling class apparatchiks got together (on George Soros’s dime) to “game out” various outcomes of the 2020 election. One such outcome was a clear Trump win. In that eventuality, former Bill Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta, playing Biden, refused to concede, pressured states that Trump won to send Democrats to the formal Electoral College vote, and trusted that the military would take care of the rest.

The leaked report from the exercise darkly concluded that “technocratic solutions, courts, and reliance on elites observing norms are not the answer here,” promising that what would follow the November election would be “a street fight, not a legal battle.”

Two more data points (among several that could be provided). Over the summer, two former Army officers, both prominent in the Democrat-aligned “national security” think tank world, wrote an open letter to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in which they urged him to deploy the 82nd Airborne Division to drag President Trump from the Oval Office at precisely 12:01 PM, January 20, 2021.

About a month later, Hillary Clinton declared publicly that Joe Biden should not concede the election “under any circumstances.” The old English major in me interprets the word “any” to mean “no,” “none,” “nada,” “niente,” “zero,” “zilch” “bupkis”…you get the idea.

This doesn’t sound like the rhetoric of a political party confident it will win an upcoming election.

The Cover-Up in Plain Sight

These items are, to repeat, merely a short but representative list of what Byron York recently labeled “coup porn.” York seems to think this is just harmless fantasizing on the part of the ruling class and its Democratic servants. For some of them, no doubt that’s true. But for all of them? I’m not so sure.

In his famously exhaustive discussion of conspiracies, Machiavelli goes out of his way to emphasize the indispensability of “operational security”—i.e., silence—to success. The first rule of conspiracy is, you do not talk about the conspiracy. The second rule of conspiracy is, you do not talk about the conspiracy.
So why are the Democrats—publicly—talking about the conspiracy?

Because they know that, for it to succeed, it must not look like a conspiracy. They need to plant the idea in the public mind, now, that their unlawful and illegitimate removal of President Trump from office will somehow be his fault.
Never mind the pesky detail that the president would refuse to leave only if he were convinced he legitimately won. Remember: Biden should not concede under any circumstances.

The second part of the plan is either to produce enough harvested ballots—lawfully or not—to tip close states, or else dispute the results in close states and insist, no matter what the tally says, that Biden won them. The worst-case scenario (for the country, but not for the ruling class) would be results in a handful of states that are so ambiguous and hotly disputed that no one can rightly say who won. Of course, that will not stop the Democrats from insisting that they won.

The public preparation for that has also already begun: streams of stories and social media posts “explaining” how, while on election night it might look as if Trump won, close states will tip to Biden as all the mail-in ballots are “counted.”

The third piece is to get the vast and loud Dem-Left propaganda machine ready for war. That leaked report exhorted Democrats to identify “key influencers in the media and among local activists who can affect political perceptions and mobilize political action…[who could] establish pre-commitments to playing a constructive role in event of a contested election.” I.e., in blaring from every rooftop that “Trump lost.”

At this point, it’s safe to assume that unless Trump wins in a blowout that can’t be overcome by cheating and/or denied via the ruling class’s massive propaganda operation, that’s exactly what every Democratic politician and media organ will shout.

Stop the Presses

What then? The Podesta assumption is that the military will side with the Dems. There are reasons to fear they might. The Obama administration spent a great deal of political capital purging the officer corps of anyone not down with the program and promoting only those who are.

Still and all, determining the outcome of an election would be the most open political interference possible from our allegedly apolitical military, and it’s plausible that the brass won’t want to make its quiet support of the ruling class agenda that overt. The aforementioned Chairman has already stated that the military will play “no role” in the outcome of the election. That’s probably not a feint, but one wonders if it will hold given the obvious attempt to influence military thinking by people like Jeffrey Goldberg in his recent Atlantic essay.

Can the Dems rely on the Secret Service to drag Trump out? I have my doubts on this one. I’ve seen the Service up close; it really is (or strongly appears to be) apolitical. It has a job to do: protect the president, whoever that is. Officers take that job very seriously. If they don’t believe Trump lost, I don’t think they can be counted on to oust him. On the other hand, were they to believe he did lose and was refusing to leave—a scenario I find impossible to imagine but the Democrats insist is just around the corner—it’s possible the Service might act.

Barring all that, what’s left? Remember that phrase from the Dem war game: “street fight.” In other words, a repeat of this summer, only much, much bigger. Crank the propaganda to ear-drum shattering decibels and fill the streets of every major city with “protesters.” Shut down the country and allow only one message to be heard: “Trump must go.”
I.e., what’s come to be known as a “color revolution,” the exact same playbook the American deep state runs in other countries whose leadership they don’t like and is currently running in Belarus. Oust a leader—even an elected one—through agitation and call it “democracy.”

The events of the last few months may be interpreted as an attempted color revolution that failed to gain enough steam, or as a trial run for the fall. Is the Trump Administration prepared?

Here’s one thing they could do: play their own “war game” scenario so as to game out possibilities and minimize surprises. They should also be talking to people inside and outside of government whom they absolutely trust to get a clearer sense of who on the inside won’t go along with a coup and who might.

They also need to set up or shore up—now—communication channels that don’t rely on the media or Big Tech. Once the ruling class gives word that the narrative is “Trump lost,” all the president’s social media accounts will be suspended. The T.V. channels, with the likely exception of Fox News, will refuse to cover anything he says. Count on it. He’s going to need a way to talk to the American people and he has to find the means, now.

For the rest of us, the most important thing we can do is raise awareness. If there is a conspiracy to remove President Trump from office even if he wins, they’re telling you about it precisely to get you ready for it, so that when it happens you won’t think it was a conspiracy; you’ll blame the president.
Don’t be fooled.

This is scary and I can see it playing out right now in conjunction with Covid and BLM.
 
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