The Pets-As-Kids Thread

[Going strong]

I actually like animals a lot, particularly cats. I think people have a special bond with them because they keep vermin away. I like bigger dogs more than little yapper dogs.

You're a city dweller, I guess?
Well, in such a case, you'll be glad to learn that dogs too, were meant to "keep vermin away", and that includes "little yapper dogs" that, would you believe it, were created mostly to hunt for rats or foxes or badgers. Yes, dogs used to be useful to mankind, but that was before mankind became mostly cute white collar office workers.

So, don't get dogs if you don't live in, or travel to, the countryside, it's that simple.

Anyway, it is of interest on this thread, to note that the acting Pope has declared, a few days ago, that people who have dogs but refuse to have kids, are egoistic. One of his few good remarks of the year.

I have to add that very unsavoury things are written on this thread. People who have kids and suddenly they don't care about their "old dogs" anymore, and would be "thrilled" if they (the dogs, formerly beloved) would just conveniently die. Sad. Some people should realise they should not adopt dogs, ever, kids or not.

I'm genuinely curious too. Why can't these people love their newborn kids, while maintaining affection for their "old dogs"?

 

[canuckj]

My sis has a bf that lives with her and a pet cat. They have already lived together for a couple of years and still have not officially tied the knot. Also, both are left-leaning millenials when it comes to politics. There is definitely a correlation.

Why do folks live together for several years? Are they against the institution of marriage or somehow afraid of commitment? I see this all the time and just wonder why.

 

[Durden347]

Maybe the same reason why they would rather have pets than kids. On the side note,

A well-known YouTube channel called DontStopMeowing:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSdnFL7FG3Kn8M5ZslUDRMw

The people who run this channel have three pet cats that they treat like children. It seems like the woman here is making her husband do videos with her and the pets. They have lots of videos with with their cats and live in California. There a lots of people on YouTube like them.

 

[canuckj]

Saw a dog yesterday on the second floor of the building where I live perched on the dining room table table eating from a plate. Some kind of Beagle or Jack Russell. A larger blonde lady also sitting at the table.

 

[Durden347]

I dont mind as much these people voluntarily choosing to go instinct. What I do mind is them aggressively insisting that the rest must follow their suit.

Kind of like fat co-workers might feel very uneasy about the presence of a good looking, slim new hire, and will try to fatten her up to bring her down to their level of misery and ugliness.

Most of these people will eventually realize that they are still not happy with a pet want more than just an animal. It is hard-wired in our DNA for the majority of us to reproduce as humans. If anyone wants to be single with a lot of pets or none then it is up to them. They shouldn't shove their views up everyone's throats or butt in to anyone's life.

 

[messaggera]

Bring in the clones: Instagrammers are genetically replicating their pets

Cloning cats and dogs is expensive and controversial. But the humans behind petfluencer accounts say it's worth it.

www.inputmag.com

 

[Ah_Tibor]

Bring in the clones: Instagrammers are genetically replicating their pets

Cloning cats and dogs is expensive and controversial. But the humans behind petfluencer accounts say it's worth it.

www.inputmag.com

Shouldn't this be "send in the clones"

I think a lot of the pet cloning funding is coming from the anti-aging/clone your organs crowd, just like how the current injections were created and tested on animals so they could repurpose it.

 

[inthefade]

If you guys want to see some sickness, check out the cesspool of reddit combined with pets-as-kids.

r/childfree

r/childfree: Discussion topics and links of interest to childfree individuals.

www.reddit.com

 

[Ah_Tibor]

If you guys want to see some sickness, check out the cesspool of reddit combined with pets-as-kids.

r/childfree

r/childfree: Discussion topics and links of interest to childfree individuals.

www.reddit.com

These are always the same people who share news articles about bad parents and product recalls.

My one friend who is "child-free" (we've grown apart over the years and I can't remember the last time I saw her in person) was very spoiled as a kid. Indulgence and neglect are two sides of the same coin.

Edit: also love how they call kids nicknames like "parasites" and "crotch goblins"

 

[PineTreeFarmer]

I think of you've already had as many children as you can reasonably handle, there's no harm in having pets that you treat a little like a kid. My pets provide a lot of structure for our time and keep us close to home -- kind of like having a toddler or infant.

 

[canuckj]

Nothing wrong with having a dog. I have had three Labradors. They were the kindest, gentlest creatures ever. I believe they can comprehend about as much language as a very young child. I could have a conversation with them and they would respond with actions to show they understood. I really believe (without theology to back this) they have capacity for right and wrong.

My issue is when people use them as child substitutes. I also have an issue with people spending thousands on animal vet bills yet a child somewhere dies of hunger or disease.

 

[Pray_Everyday]

People who have kids and suddenly they don't care about their "old dogs" anymore, and would be "thrilled" if they (the dogs, formerly beloved) would just conveniently die. Sad. Some people should realise they should not adopt dogs, ever, kids or not.

I'm genuinely curious too. Why can't these people love their newborn kids, while maintaining affection for their "old dogs"?

While I certainly cannot speak for anyone but myself, when I read this I felt like I could in part relate, so if you're genuinely curious here is my answer: tiredness and priorities. I know it's different for everyone, but when my first child was born NOTHING could have prepared me for the sleep deprivation. Going from a comfortable 9hrs per night to 2-3 hours in a row - at best, and some nights at all - was life changing. And it didn't just last for the first couple of months of her life, but in fact she was a over a year old and I was pregnant with my second child before her sleep schedule normalized.

Before children I loved my pets very much, or so I thought, but when I held my baby for the first time I felt a whole different kind of love - and sense of responsibility - that I could have never imagined. True, perhaps someone like me should never adopt an animal, but unfortunately that already happened in the past. Theres no way I could have guessed how my feelings would change years later and upon having children. I certainly would not choose to adopt any more animals. Also, it's not that I would be thrilled if my pets died but that it would feel like an extra weight was lifted off me.

Of course, mainstream sites that push the childless agenda would say someone like me is a monster for loving their flesh and blood children more than an animal regardless of them being in my life first.

 

[ph80]

The other day in Walmart I saw a family with 4 kids... and every single one of them was on a leash being held by the mother. Literally, leashes.

 

[messaggera]

People who have kids and suddenly they don't care about their "old dogs" anymore, and would be "thrilled" if they (the dogs, formerly beloved) would just conveniently die. Sad. Some people should realise they should not adopt dogs, ever, kids or not.

I was to refrain from sharing this experience given I did not want to bring any negativity, but because you mentioned this I find it uncanny.

Long story short I worked with a female who was the poster child for priding herself on being a woke faculty member, and strongly anti Christian. She also was into weightlifting as a daily hobby, and yearly tattoos. I am going to speculate that she chose this path of motherhood, which I am to share, due to her openingly sharing (during work hours) that she was being medicated for anxiety and other mental disorders. This individual works not only in higher education, but in a program that prepares students as educational counselors .

Her husband (which she refers to as partner) and her had three cats and two dogs prior to finding a "birth mom," to allow for adoption. It is snarky to say but in some why I think it is true - the pets were not filling that void so they decided on adopting an infant.

Prior to the delivery one dog and two cats suddenly "died" after vets visits. But then again maybe it was heavy vaxx shedding since they were adamant about the vax and shamed those of us who were not going to participate. Or the animals could sense the stress and tension and it wrecked havoc on the immune systems.

How do I know this? it is plastered all over public social media - and comes up on my feeds if I log in. I have been praying the the family forms a strong bond, and stays healthy.

The most disturbing part of this story is when their adopted child turned 4 months they (she most likely) brought home a 10 week old terrier type breed. She refers to the puppy as her son, and speaks on how smart he is with training lessons. How devaluing for her child.

 

[canuckj]

The other day in Walmart I saw a family with 4 kids... and every single one of them was on a leash being held by the mother. Literally, leashes.

This is a huge pet peeve of mine and I am prone to rude comments when I see this. I understand the issue of safety and a hyper toddler but there has to be a better way than walking them on a leash.

 

[Layla78]

I feel bad for these people. I have dogs (really my family's dogs) and no children and I can relate. Dogs are a joy and sometimes I look at them and marvel how wonderful God's creation is. But I imagine having kids is far above that.

 

[Ah_Tibor]

Setting the bar even lower

 

[Stoyan]

delete

 

[Ah_Tibor]

Probably belongs in the eugenics thread. I found this on the Native American sterilization wiki page. Sounds an awful lot like the modern rhetoric of "kids will take away your money and free time!"

 

[MartyMcFly]

Probably belongs in the eugenics thread. I found this on the Native American sterilization wiki page. Sounds an awful lot like the modern rhetoric of "kids will take away your money and free time!"

Not surprising, the modern trend is to cancel Native Americans any way possible. Look at Land 'O Lakes and the Cleveland Indians (now 'Guardians') and other sports teams. It seems native Americans are unwanted these days.