The point you realized society was confused with the roles of males and females...

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NFallin

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Nonpareil said:
Later in the game when she had the puck and was skating through the center of the ice, I jacked her with an open ice hit like Dion Phaneuf. I was booed, kicked out of the game and suspended from both of my leagues for a few games.

I watched a friend of mine in soccer rush to a ball and unload on a kick where a girl had stuck her leg out to block a shot and he ended up snapping her leg. We all had to sit down and wait for the ambulance to come and take her away.

He felt like shit for doing it but surprisingly there was no backlash from any of the parents or players on the field. This was in a smaller town so it was like "yeah you play with the boys, you might get pregnant, or your leg breaks in half."

*sidenote...dion phaneuf is a piece of shit. I was partying at a bar in calgary taking pictures with some friends when he stole the camera from us when he was banging elisha cuthbert and they screamed at us for "taking pictures of them and not treating them like human beings" when we didn't realize they were even there. Elisha was actually quite short. I would bang.
 

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guerrilla said:
Nonpareil said:
If I ran a company and a high-responsibility, high-workload position opened up, I'm choosing the man for it 99 times out of 100, because I know I'm getting more value for my money. I want someone who will put in the hours rain or shine, in sickness and health, not someone who takes a week off because her boyfriend broke up with her, needs to work from home today because one of the kids is sick or can't come in because she's 'not feeling well' (hungover...and yes, I have seen all of these things more than once).

I manage a number of employees under me, and you're grossly overestimating what "a man is." Men come in to work rain or shine?! Ha!! Men come into work sick?!! Ha Ha!!!

A man breaks up with his LTR and you think you're gonna get good work outta him for the next week?!!! Hell no, you're better off giving him time off cause he'll talk about it to all the other employees while being nonproductive himself.

It's not that different from school...did you ever stay home from school/high school/college class because you were sick when all you had was a little sniffle? Did you decide not to drive to class because it was snowing when you knew you could make it just fine but didn't want to. School, work, they're all the same. One's duty is one's duty.

All these qualities you list are the "ideal" and in my experience, there are only a few men and a few women who match most of these ideals as employees. And ironically, it's about the same proportion for both genders. Some people are good people, but a lot aren't. When you find the good ones you keep em.

Every job I've worked at that had men and women in a shared setting, the women were far more likely to take days off, far more likely to leave early/arrive late and 100% more likely to get pregnant. Also, you have to work to make the office more 'female friendly' with policies and bullshit, they can't lift anything that weighs more than 20 lbs. and they sic HR on guys just because they find them 'creepy' for making innocuous conversation. I've had the HR chat before, why? Because on the elevator on the way in some chick was 'uncomfortable' when I asked her how long her and her boyfriend had been together. Do I need to even mention that she was bitching about him and I asked merely out of curiosity (since she was ugly and I wouldn't fuck her anyways)?

In terms of something like work ethic, you can't compare what someone did as a kid to what they'll do as an adult, people grow, people change. I used to fake sick all the time to get out of high school (and later when I turned 18 and had a car, I'd just sign myself out); one job I had in an office I took just one day off in five months, while the person who had the same job as me (a girl), took nine. Unless I'm dying, I'm working (but at the same time, if I had a company I'd try to give people days off as soon as they got sick; no need to spread that shit). I'd say 'maybe that's just me', but I know it isn't.

I've never once seen a guy take time off because he broke up with a girlfriend, divorce, different story but understandably so. Meanwhile, I've seen girls take days off because some guy dumped them or cheated on them at least five times.

I agree in general though; there are plenty of men who are fuckups and who milk the system too, but I can't agree with you that it's the same percentage.

NFallin said:
*sidenote...dion phaneuf is a piece of shit. I was partying at a bar in calgary taking pictures with some friends when he stole the camera from us when he was banging elisha cuthbert and they screamed at us for "taking pictures of them and not treating them like human beings" when we didn't realize they were even there. Elisha was actually quite short. I would bang.

I've seen him in Toronto a couple of times, and he's toned it down (he's the captain, he has to represent). I wouldn't use 'piece of shit' to describe him, no, I'd call him a bro/douchebag hybrid.
 

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guerrilla said:
Nonpareil said:
Ten jobs are available in a company, they should go to the ten best people, not the eight best people and two people on account of them having a vagina.

This idea of merit is interesting and can spawn countless hours of debate, but IMO affirmative action regulation is needed. If all the previous clique were all white, why would they let a strange black guy in who made them squirm a little bit because he was out of their comfort zone even though he was smarter and more competent than all the other applicants. The same for women.

The question is when does affirmative action become too much? When do minority abuse it and how do we stop this abuse without fucking it up for the minorities who affirmative action REALLY REALLY helps?! And I don't have an answer for those...

People tend to simplify and assume that sexism and racism are similar but that is a false dichotomy.

You can exterminate or criminalize black people completely by not giving them jobs and starving them and therefore I agree that they should have some safety mechanisms, but they shouldn't become exaggerated.

But women can never be exterminated by not getting jobs. Women will simply turn to housewives that is actually the best for the families, for the society and although they are trained to deny it - also the best for their own satisfaction.
 

NFallin

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Nonpareil said:
NFallin said:
*sidenote...dion phaneuf is a piece of shit. I was partying at a bar in calgary taking pictures with some friends when he stole the camera from us when he was banging elisha cuthbert and they screamed at us for "taking pictures of them and not treating them like human beings" when we didn't realize they were even there. Elisha was actually quite short. I would bang.

I've seen him in Toronto a couple of times, and he's toned it down (he's the captain, he has to represent). I wouldn't use 'piece of shit' to describe him, no, I'd call him a bro/douchebag hybrid.

Fair enough...I accept Nonpareil!
 
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