The Pope Francis Thread

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ralfy

Robin
What's destroying the Catholic Church are the effects of late capitalism brought about by industrial civilization, including consumer spending, which in turn encourages narcissism, self-entitlement, and materialism.
 

budoslavic

Owl
Gold Member
Cross post from "The Great Reset" by the WEF thread.

Pope Francis calls for ‘global governance’ and ‘universal vaccines’ in letter to globalist financial summit​

'There remains an urgent need for a global plan that can create new or regenerate existing institutions, particularly those of global governance, and help to build a new network of international relations for advancing the integral human development of all peoples.'

Pope Francis has addressed the World Bank and International Monetary Fund at their spring meeting, calling for “global governance” in light of COVID-19, strongly advocating for universal vaccines, and bemoaning the “ecological debt” which is owed to “nature itself.”

His letter is the latest in a series of recent acts in which Francis has aligned himself with global corporations committed to anti-Catholic agendas.

The letter was delivered via Peter Cardinal Turkson, Prefect of the Holy See’s Dicastery for Promoting Integral Human Development, to the spring 2021 meeting between the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which is currently being held online from April 5 - 11.

Dated April 4, the letter mentioned God just once, in the final line.

Instead, Francis focussed on calling for a system of global government which would implement a new societal order upon the world, based upon climate change policies and universal vaccination.


‘Global governance’​

Referencing “the Covid-19 pandemic,” Francis declared that the world had been forced to “confront a series of grave and interrelated socio-economic, ecological, and political crises.”

Such inter-connected crises, he placed before the World Bank and IMF, hoping that their meetings would provide the basis for a re-ordering of world affairs: “It is my hope that your discussions will contribute to a model of ‘recovery’ capable of generating new, more inclusive and sustainable solutions to support the real economy, assisting individuals and communities to achieve their deepest aspirations and the universal common good.”

Francis repeated the claim that COVID has shown how “no one is saved alone,” and hence “new and creative forms of social, political and economic participation” must be drawn up.

Quoting from his recent encyclical Fratelli Tutti, which has been described as “blasphemous” by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, Francis mentioned “trust” as the “cornerstone of all relationships,” a point which he believed the World Bank and IMF would “know well” due to being “experts in finance and economics.”

He urged that the two financial giants foster such relationships, and engage in “building bridges, and envisioning long-term inclusive projects.”

Francis also renewed his frequent call for a paradigm shift in global politics, saying: “there remains an urgent need for a global plan that can create new or regenerate existing institutions, particularly those of global governance, and help to build a new network of international relations for advancing the integral human development of all peoples.”

A principal effect of the desired global government, would be the reduction of debt in order to enable easy access primarily to “vaccines,” followed by “health, education and jobs.”


An ‘ecological debt’ to ‘nature itself’​

However, Pope Francis did not miss the opportunity to instruct the IMF and World Bank on another of his regular areas of concern issues, namely “climate change.” He warned about overlooking “ecological debt,” a phenomena which he described as affecting the whole world, and pitting the “global north” against the “south.”

“We are, in fact, in debt to nature itself, as well as the people and countries affected by human-induced ecological degradation and biodiversity loss,” wrote Francis.

“In this regard, I believe that the financial industry, which is distinguished by its great creativity, will prove capable of developing agile mechanisms for calculating this ecological debt, so that developed countries can pay it, not only by significantly limiting their consumption of non-renewable energy or by assisting poorer countries to enact policies and programmes of sustainable development, but also by covering the costs of the innovation required for that purpose.”

These lines seem to echo the sentiments expressed by key globalist and founder of the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, whose proposed anti-Catholic “Great Reset,” is underpinned by a focus on a green financial agenda, as he mentions the “withdrawal of fossil-fuel subsidies,” and a new financial system based on “investments” which advance “equality and sustainability,” and the building of a “‘green’ urban infrastructure.”

Schwab, the IMF, and scores of the world’s most influential banks (including the World Bank), have in fact already committed themselves to enforcing the green agenda of the Great Reset, and look set to make adherence to such green policies a criteria for access to finance in the future.

Francis has already signalled his intimacy with Schwab, by sending an address to the WEF four times in his eight-year pontificate, and allowing an annual Vatican roundtable at Davos, the WEF’s annual conference site in Switzerland.


A secular society pointed to a new ‘common good’​

Francis also made reference to the “common good,” several times in his letter, which he linked intimately to finance and a form of secular fraternity of the kind described in Fratelli Tutti.

“It follows that public money may never be disjoined from the public good, and financial markets should be underpinned by laws and regulations aimed at ensuring that they truly work for the common good. A commitment to economic, financial and social solidarity thus entails much more than engaging in sporadic acts of generosity.”

Such goals, for Francis, include “a justly financed vaccine solidarity,” which he said was part of the “the law of love and the health of all.”

“Here, I reiterate my call to government leaders, businesses and international organizations to work together in providing vaccines for all, especially for the most vulnerable and needy.”

Closing his letter, Francis repeated his wish for a world focussed on a new style of fraternity, underpinned by a focus on green policies, urging the World Bank and IMF to develop solutions for “a more inclusive and sustainable future.”

It would be a future “where finance is at the service of the common good, where the vulnerable and the marginalized are placed at the centre, and where the earth, our common home, is well cared for.”

There was no mention in the letter of Christ, the Catholic Church or the Catholic teaching on the common good.


Subservience to globalist agenda​

Pope Francis’s letter comes as no great surprise, since the 84-year-old Argentine has been significantly increasing his long-standing ties with globalist groups and organisations, such as the United Nations (UN) and the WEF.

Francis has recently called for a “new world order,” saying that the “drama of wasting” the COVID-19 “crisis” would be worse than the disruption caused by COVID measures across the globe.

On that occasion too, he dealt with the topic of salvation, once again viewing it with a purely earthly understanding, and linking salvation to the new world order and a focus of green policies: “The path to humanity’s salvation passes through the creation of a new model of development, which unquestionably focuses on coexistence among peoples in harmony with Creation.”

To this end, Pope Francis has launched his own initiative with the U.N. and with globalist corporations, in order to promote a new “economic system” of capitalism, and ensure the achievement of the U.N.’s Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). Amongst other aspects, the partnerships promote “sustainable lifestyles,” “gender equality,” and “global citizenship,” while the SDGs themselves promote “sexual and reproductive health services.”




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Check out Jay Dyer on the papacy. It is clear this unit was infiltrated by essentially the same elite we're dealing with today on the cultural and spiritual (and now medical/freedom..) front. Which is no surprise of course, as every earthly office will be corrupted easily especially one that is sought so much after and has so much spiritual influence as the papacy. Moreover, I believe the papacy throughout history has been more like a king/political role (earthly role) than perhaps a spiritual one especially during the Papal States and all the alliances and influence surrounding that, but that's another topic.

 

TomDooley

Chicken

“Pope” Francis venerates a Russian Orthodox saint!

The Russian Orthodox are almost as frequent visitors to the Vatican as the Talmudists are.

The Argentine apostate who falsely claims to be “Pope” of the Roman Catholic Church met once again with his friend, Metropolitan Hilarion (Alfeyev) of Volokolamsk, chairman of the Moscow Patriarchate’s Department for External Church Relations. The two have known each other for some time and were introduced by the late Rabbi Angel Kreiman who, as a Cooperator of Opus Dei, met Hilarion at an interfaith congress held at one of Opus Dei’s universities. (Rabbi Kreiman was Francis go to rabbi until he died.) One wonders what these two chums discussed that didn’t make the official record — communism or navel-gazing?

Metropolitan Hilarion of Volokolamsk is a frequent visitor at the Vatican and he usually brings a delegation of orthodox with him. This time the group was rather large. In the public statement, Francis concedes to Metropolitan Hilarion’s complaints from 2014concerning “Uniatism”, Greek Catholics, and the Ukraine. Francis told Hilaron and the delegation from the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) that the Vatican under him has abandoned the goal of converting the members of the ROC to the Catholic Faith and also doesn’t care about correcting the errors in their beliefs.


“I am happy to take the road of unity with you: the only road that promises us something certain, because the path of division leads us to war and destruction. And before you I would like to reiterate – in a special way before you, my dear brother, and before all of you – that the Catholic Church will never allow an attitude of division to arise from her people. We will never allow ourselves to do this, I do not want it. In Moscow – in Russia – there is only one Patriarchate: yours. We will not have another one. And when some Catholic faithful, be they laypeople, priests or bishops, raise the banner of Uniatism, which does not work anymore, and is over, then it causes me pain. The Churches that are united in Rome must be respected, but Uniatism as a path of unity is not valid today.” — Francis

Francis said further that he and Kirill are brothers that are spiritually walking together. Perhaps, Francis is running a scheme with cigarettes à la the “Tobacco Metropolitan”? After all, calculating Francis must of had an ulterior motive for prohibiting the sale of cigarettes to Vatican employees. Or is this Francis’ way of stating that he is a communist and agrees with the goals of the KGB-agent (codename ‘Mikhailov’) Kirill?


Seraphim of Sarov

“I would like to say something to you: when we met with the Patriarch, afterwards he sent me a relic of Saint Seraphim. I keep that relic on my nightstand, and at night, before going to bed, and in the morning, when I get up, I venerate it and pray for our unity.” — Francis

The Papal Pretender told the ROC delegation and the world that he
(like John Paul II) regards the navel-gazing (hesychast) sympathizer of the Old Believers, Seraphim of Sarov, a saint and further that he venerates him twice a day!

Wow, what else does one need to know?

Francis doesn’t want to convert the Russian Orthodox people, or correct the errors of their church, and he venerates one of their saints!


“Pope” Francis’s full remarks:

Thank you so much for your visit, and also for this meeting, which helps us so much to live our faith in unity and in the hope to walk together. I am happy to take the road of unity with you: the only road that promises us something certain, because the path of division leads us to war and destruction. And before you I would like to reiterate – in a special way before you, my dear brother, and before all of you – that the Catholic Church will never allow an attitude of division to arise from her people. We will never allow ourselves to do this, I do not want it. In Moscow – in Russia – there is only one Patriarchate: yours. We will not have another one. And when some Catholic faithful, be they laypeople, priests or bishops, raise the banner of Uniatism, which does not work anymore, and is over, then it causes me pain. The Churches that are united in Rome must be respected, but Uniatism as a path of unity is not valid today. Instead it brings me comfort when I find this: the extended hand, the fraternal embrace, thinking together, and journeying. Ecumenism is made by journeying. We walk. Some think – but this is not right – that there must first be doctrinal agreement, on all the points of division, and then the journey. This does not work for ecumenism, because we do not know when agreement will come. I once heard a man of the Church, a man of God, who said: “I know which day a doctrinal agreement will be signed”. They asked him: “When?” – “The day after the coming of the glorious Christ”. We must continue to study theology, to clarify the points, but in the meantime let us walk together, let us not wait for these things to be resolved in order to walk, no. We journey together and also do this, but walking in love, in prayer; as in this example of the relics. Prayer together, for each other, in dialogue. This is so good. The meeting with His Holiness Kirill was very good for me, I found a brother.
And now, spiritually, we walk together. And a couple of words to finish. One on the respect of Catholics towards you, Russian Orthodox brothers: the Catholic Church, the Catholic Churches must not get involved in internal matters of the Russian Orthodox Church, nor in political issues. This is my attitude, and the attitude of the Holy See today. And those who meddle do not obey the Holy See. This regards politics. The second thing: piety. It is important that we pray for each other, also in personal prayer. We know new brothers and sisters, and then there is also personal prayer. I would like to say something to you: when we met with the Patriarch, afterwards he sent me a relic of Saint Seraphim. I keep that relic on my nightstand, and at night, before going to bed, and in the morning, when I get up, I venerate it and pray for our unity.
Thank you very much. Let us pray for each other. Let us bless each other. And let us go together. Thank you.

 

Roosh

Cardinal
Check out Jay Dyer on the papacy. It is clear this unit was infiltrated by essentially the same elite we're dealing with today on the cultural and spiritual (and now medical/freedom..) front. Which is no surprise of course, as every earthly office will be corrupted easily especially one that is sought so much after and has so much spiritual influence as the papacy. Moreover, I believe the papacy throughout history has been more like a king/political role (earthly role) than perhaps a spiritual one especially during the Papal States and all the alliances and influence surrounding that, but that's another topic.

If you want to criticize Catholicism, do so in the Orthodox subforum. Let them have their own section without fly-by criticisms that degrade their discourse.
 
John Henry Westen recently reported that Pope Francis has a painting of a nude Jesus ministering to Judas after His Resurrection. The Pope has also said that he does not know if Judas is damned to Hell and leaves open the possibility that his betrayal of Jesus was forgiven by God.
I pray for the Church.
 
John Henry Westen recently reported that Pope Francis has a painting of a nude Jesus ministering to Judas after His Resurrection. The Pope has also said that he does not know if Judas is damned to Hell and leaves open the possibility that his betrayal of Jesus was forgiven by God.
I pray for the Church.
I think not all is lost. There is a growing number of young people flocking to the church, especially the Latin Mass. In the church I go to that is way more traditional in its liturgy, the age demographic is more balanced than in the churches I went to in the Novus order (avg age: 65+).
And I wouldn‘t put too much of emphasis on certain heretics pointing out how polluted the Catholic Church is.
 
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