speakeasy said:
I've never tried any psychedelic drug, or any drug for that matter other than plain old THC. The closest I've come to a mind-warping experience was taking Ambien CR and fighting against it until I started hallucinating. I put on my headphones and listened to music and it sounded like the most incredible thing ever.
But to my point, I hear a lot of talk of mysticism and spirituality. And then hearing that Steve Jobs went to India and became a Buddhist and dropped acid all sounds so cliche of the meaning-craved Westerner trying to find it in Indian mysticism or Kabbala or whatever is cool at the moment. Is there really anything "mystical" about these experiences at all? All it's doing is fucking with your brain chemistry and whatever effect that gives people they think it's something spiritually enlightening. That's one of the reasons hippies annoy me. They think smoking a shit load of pot and eating shrooms brings enlightenment. How could ingesting a chemical that artificially distorts your thinking make you enlightened?
I totally get doing it for fun and social reasons or to spark creativity. But I think claiming that it's "spiritual" and all that stuff...
Damn Speakeasy, you disappoint me brother. I have always considered you to be one of the "more enlightened" members of this forum, but here you just come across as a close-minded, ignorant, "square". It's not your fault though you probably grew up in the DARE generation when Republicans like Ronald Reagan brainwashed you about "drug use."
You are making assumptions and holding an opinion that's based on what...? NOTHING!! You admit that the only "psychadelic" you've take in Ambian CR
, so basically you have no idea what the experience is like, however you seem to disregard and down play the experiences of someone like myself (who has actually tripped shrooms close to 100 times). I am telling you that I've had spiritual mystical experiences, that brought me glimpses of enlightenment on the level of the buddha, but I guess I'm just a drugged up hippy who had "chemicals altering my brain".
In a way you are right the chemical structure of the psilocibin from the mushrooms was effecting my brain and creating a euphoric state of introspective mediation, which brought upon some of the greatest revelations of my life. Truths about the earth, love, life, friendship, hardship, overcoming the ego, overcoming the darkness to enter the light.
In the Matrix, Neo is offered the choice of taking the red-pill and seeing the truth of the world and existence as it truly is, and taking the blue-pill is remaining in the comforting world of illusion, a safe place, but without realizing the true nature of reality. In many ways taking psychadelics (esp. mushrooms) is the same thing, you are opening the "doors of perception" and taking your mind to another level. A level that people in the blue-pill (square) world will never experience. A world for those who seek a deeper experience and meaning to life, where you transcend the average and ordinary, don't you want to live life to the fullest, and experience all the amazing things you can experience.
Some of my greatest life experiences have been under the influence of psilocibin mushrooms, you can judge me and formulate whatever opinion you want about that, consider me a drugged out pathetic hippie loser who needs drugs to be happy or give life meaning. If you thought that I would just pity you.
If you could have experienced hiking through Rincon de la Vieja in Costa Rica to the Blue Lagoon, or riding camels and climbing to the top of a sand dune in the Sahara desert to watch the sunset, and then trip out watching shooting stars all night in the clearest shy where you can see the entire milkyway galaxy in its glory while the bedoin berbers play the most amazing beat on the drums and sing and chant in an ancient language, I experienced these things and more on shrooms and I wouldn't trade those experiences for anything in life.
Furthermore as Giovonny already stated indigenous cultures throughout the world throughout time, till this very day(!) use natural plant hallucigens to achieve states of enlightenment. The Huichol who make the sacred pilgrimage across the Sierra Madre Occidental to receive the blessing of the holy Peyote plant, the Machiguenga of the Amazon River basin in S. America who injest the Ayahuasca vine for their visionary sacred rituals.
But I guess if a white boy from the good old USA wants to expand his mind and have a "spiritual" or "mystical" experience by taking sacred mind expanding plants, he's a a "cliche hippy poser" who's following some SWPL trend of "finding meaning in life". He'll probably be back to shopping at IKEA, surfing wifi on his apple laptop at starbuck, and drive home in his Volkswagon Passat. Your way of thinking is "reverse racism" in my book, to think you have to be some indigenous tribesman in the Amazon in order to be able to meaningfully take psychadelic plants in throughly flawed and coming from an ignorant place of ethnocentric thought.
So take whatever you want from my rant, but Speakeasy you would benefit greatly from a mushroom trip, trust me, you'll thank me later. Don't be afraid to expand your mind. You only live on this earth once, we must experience our lives to the fullest. Speaking of which my next mushroom trip will be in a couple months at the Mayan ruin of Palenque, is that a "cliche hippie poser" thing to do?
