The Republican Primary is a Sham!?
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And if Paul ran as an indy it would likely guarantee Obama getting re-elected.
The problem we have is we have a big group of people that seemingly want a quasi socialist state, while no one wants to pay for it.
Can't have your cake and eat it too.
And we certainly can't just keep borrowing money to pay for all the entitlement programs we have let alone expanding those programs.
The problem we have is we have a big group of people that seemingly want a quasi socialist state, while no one wants to pay for it.
Can't have your cake and eat it too.
And we certainly can't just keep borrowing money to pay for all the entitlement programs we have let alone expanding those programs.
MikeCF said:
Unfortunately thats just not the way politics works in this day and age. Obama's path to the Presidency would have very likely ended if he had lost the Senate campaign against Jack Ryan, in which he was trailing. His staff were able to get sealed divorce documents released that stated that Jack Ryan took his wife (Jeri Ryan, actress) to swingers clubs. This caused him to pull out of the election, and Obama won against the last minute fill in. When the stakes are as high as they are anything goes. It sucks, but it is what it is.
Brian said:
Hah. I remember that campaign well.
Jack Ryan would have beaten Obama. Thus, the sealed divorce records were leaked. This killed Ryan's candidacy.
The claim is being made that Ron Paul can't win the GOP primary.
If Paul can't win the GOP primary, why use dirty tricks?
BTW, it's funny you cite Jack Ryan.
The guy was legit, except he was into some weird sexual stuff.
In the U.S., that's all it takes to kill a candidate.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/will/s_162680.html
The_CEO said:
That's just how they are.
Bankers aren't used to being challenged. They live in a bubble where people throw around terms like market maker, adding liquidity, free markets, etc., as if those terms mean anything.
Ask them to defend themselves...They can't without resorting to buzz words.
When it comes to arrogance, bankers put college professors and lawyers to shame.
But it's a lot of bark and no bite.
Get them outside of their narcissistic social circle jerk, and they fold.
Brian said:
Lest we forget, here's a refresher course on the talking points to memorize from the list that you've got guarded under your pillow:
1. he's a socialist.
2. his only experience was a "community organizer" (read: socialist)
or to be really clever, change "organizer" to "agitator"
3. history started in 2008. Anything that happened prior to that date had no negative impact on the economy or doubt.
4. spends like a drunken sailor! (after 2008 of course. Anything before that does not count.)
5. something has to be done about this debt! (after 2008 naturally)
6. he hates stocks! (ignore the Dow)
7. Did i forget to mention... He's a socialist!
8. If all else fails, insinuate that the other guy is stupid and blame the liberal media.
9. Cry.
10. Watch Fox & get cheered back up!
11. Repeat as needed.
JayMillz
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The_CEO said:
Here are some other fun ones floating around out there:
He's a muslim
He and his wife hate the USA and want to destroy it
He raised taxes
He wasn't born in the USA
His regulations are causing businesses to go overseas
Healthcare costs are increasing because of Obamacare
Businesses aren't hiring because of Obamacare
The concept of "discouraged workers" started under Obama
Obama likes other countries more than the USA
Obama apologizes too much
Obama bows down to foreign dictators
The USA lost its AAA credit rating because of Obama
Obama chooses environmentalists over job creators
If things ran fairly I believe Ron Paul would secure the convention. Romney can blow all the cash he wan'ts but if delegates are on the floor voting he does not stand a chance. But of course this won't happen. It will be a contentious convention as the floor is uncontrolled, even though every other aspect is a tightly controlled production for television. it will be interesting to see the floor respond differently to what is going on stage and on TV.
Of course Ron Paul has no damn chance to win the nod in this game because he does not have the money. But you have to give the man credit for running a shoe strings campaign compared to the others and simply just going on and getting the word out and being strategic with his resources he is still showing up well in these primaries.
Of course Ron Paul has no damn chance to win the nod in this game because he does not have the money. But you have to give the man credit for running a shoe strings campaign compared to the others and simply just going on and getting the word out and being strategic with his resources he is still showing up well in these primaries.
So if I'm not in banking then i dont know what I'm talking about and I dont know how Private Equity works, but if I was in banking and actually know what I'm talking about I belong to a narcissistic social circle.
Repeat after me, you'll feel better when you accept reality: "I was foolish enough to believe all of the bullshit Obama spewed on the campaign trail, in hindsight having someone w/no managerial experience or financial background run an entity w/major financial problems probably wasnt a good idea, but I realize I was wrong and am ready to move on." Or just keep blaming Bush.
Repeat after me, you'll feel better when you accept reality: "I was foolish enough to believe all of the bullshit Obama spewed on the campaign trail, in hindsight having someone w/no managerial experience or financial background run an entity w/major financial problems probably wasnt a good idea, but I realize I was wrong and am ready to move on." Or just keep blaming Bush.
Brian said:
I'm laughing you think Obama is actually calling the shots. There is a reason him and Romneys policies mirror each other. The top heads in finance are calling the shots here. Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan have more influence on USA monetary policy then Obama does.
Both are sheep, and will say anything there contributors will tell them.
Hillary actually would of probably been way more bad ass then Obama. Women in positions of power seek validation hard (obviously) and usually always push some kind of war footing. Thatcher had zero cred until she rushed the Falklands, Evita aided the Nazis... Hillary would of damn started WWIII.
Obama started something like 6-8 direct or proxy wars in his 4 years... Hillary would of probably doubled that with explicit moves on Pakistan and Iran.
JayMillz said:
If this was Obama they would of burned him at the stake as a socialist lol. I am *crying* at how this would of been spun so bad against Obama so hard now. Poor Bush, just reading that script... look how much damage this along with a few other polices did to the USA. Gore would of done the same tho, same with Obama, and same with Romney. The banks pushed for this to give them a flood of cash to play with.
Thanks for posting this.
Brian said:
Hey didn't the [R] control both houses at that time? I don't think it really matters does it? Both sides are crooks it does not matter if its Left or Right. I can see the Dems jumping on this as its a chance to grab minority votes...knowing full well their Republican bredren would support it.
I remember two republicans proposed the repeal bill of Glass-Steegal.. Clinton still made it law. Partisanship does not exist in America.
Evidence is mounting that Mitt Romney's 194-vote victory over Ron Paul was prematurely announced, if not totally wrong. Washington County canceled their caucus on Saturday on account of three inches of snow (hardly a blizzard by Maine standards), and other towns that scheduled their caucuses for this week have been left out of the vote count. Now, it looks like caucuses that did take place before Feb. 11 have also been left out of final tally.
As the full extent of the chaos unfolds, sources close to the Paul campaign tell Business Insider that it is looking increasingly like Romney's team might have a hand in denying Paul votes, noting that Romney has some admirably ruthless operatives on his side and a powerful incentive to avoid a fifth caucus loss this month.
According to the Paul campaign, the Maine Republican Party is severely under-reporting Paul's results — and Romney isn't getting the same treatment. For example, nearly all the towns in Waldo County — a Ron Paul stronghold – held their caucuses on Feb. 4, but the state GOP reported no results for those towns. In Waterville, a college town in Central Maine, results were reported but not included in the party vote count. Paul beat Romney 21-5 there, according to the Kennebec County GOP.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-maine-caucuses-gop-takeover-2012-2#ixzz1mVDHiGnO
As the full extent of the chaos unfolds, sources close to the Paul campaign tell Business Insider that it is looking increasingly like Romney's team might have a hand in denying Paul votes, noting that Romney has some admirably ruthless operatives on his side and a powerful incentive to avoid a fifth caucus loss this month.
According to the Paul campaign, the Maine Republican Party is severely under-reporting Paul's results — and Romney isn't getting the same treatment. For example, nearly all the towns in Waldo County — a Ron Paul stronghold – held their caucuses on Feb. 4, but the state GOP reported no results for those towns. In Waterville, a college town in Central Maine, results were reported but not included in the party vote count. Paul beat Romney 21-5 there, according to the Kennebec County GOP.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-maine-caucuses-gop-takeover-2012-2#ixzz1mVDHiGnO
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