The Revenant Movie

Bill Brasky

Kingfisher
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This film almost made me cry. Not only because it was a fantastic story and beautifully directed, but because it was completely devoid of grrrlsss. There was one instance where a Frenchman is raping a chick and then she slices his cock off which was perfectly reasonable.

When I saw the Indians at the beginning of the film I was expecting a side story of the noble savage living peacefully like the Na'Vi from Avatar and a depiction of whites being cruel to them for no reason in a caricature type fashion. None. It showed how life in the new world really was. Both sides at war and trying to survive and doing what they needed to do.

As for Tom Hardy's role (Fitzgerald), I didn't really see him as an a bad guy. At first I was thinking less of him but I doubt most men wouldn't do the same thing. He was trying to live another day.

One of my top 10 favorite movies. A must see.

Best actor: Leo
Best supporting: Tom
 

iamdegaussed

Kingfisher
One of the best films I've seen in a long, long time.

It's always nice to see a film about human nature that doesn't try to hit you with some fucking social agenda. The lack of 'grrrrrl power' was refreshing as well.

Seeing it after seeing Star Wars certainly puts the two in stark contrast.
 

brick tamland

Kingfisher
Quintus Curtius said:
I saw it today on the big screen.

This was fantastic. I was floored.

This is the most masculine movie I've seen in a long, long time. It's a smashingly good tale of courage, suffering, survival, betrayal, and revenge.

This is the screenplay that H. Rider Haggard or Alexandre Dumas would have written if they were alive today.

And, to cap it all off, and what really moved me as well, it has very definite mystical overtones, which seem to suggest man's insignificance in the great drama of Nature and her designs.

This is the movie that men should be seeing...not the insipid claptrap of "Star Wars" or "Mad Max."

I'm going to do a full review for my ROK article on Monday.

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Just saw the article, containing some plot summaries.
No spoiler alert
 

kaotic

Owl
Gold Member
Absolutely fantastic movie, the cinematography was gorgeous, and so were the settings.

The cold morning sunrises, amazing, you felt like you were there, struggling with him.

I saw this last week and I've told everyone to go see it, I really hope Leo gets a fucking Oscar for this.

He got the Golden Globe, maybe this is a tell.
 

Lucky

Pelican
Gold Member
Fantastic film with an evenhanded treatment of all sides, Indian and settler alike. I expected DiCaprio to do a great job but damn Tom Hardy impressed me. At least one of them deserves an Oscar. The bear scene was incredible, I don't know that I've had that feeling in a movie theater before. Glad to give my money to support a masculine film. No feminist bullshit, no unrealistic scenes of "empowered" women.

Mild spoilers:

One thing I didn't understand was the French guy who showed up at the settlement and said his men were killed. He had DiCaprio's canteen with him. Didn't DiCaprio just kill one man and the Indian chick killed the dude who raped her? The only thing I can think of is that the Indian chick ran off and returned with her tribe to kill the French settlers and the one man escaped. How did this man wind up at the settlement, did I miss something? I did get up to take a piss at one point.
 

Engineer

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Excellent movie, 10/10. The final scene and in particular the final shot before fade to black put a shiver in my spine like no other film I can remember.
 

General Stalin

Crow
Gold Member
The earlier posters in this thread were being hard critics, but I'm glad Page 2 people are coming around. I was worried the RvF readership had awful taste in film.

I have been waiting for this since I saw the teaser back in September. I went and saw a matinée in a mostly empty theatre yesterday. I plan to see it again preferably in IMAX or some form of more in-depth larger-format experience. You need to see this on the big screen and the higher-quality the experience the better.

This movie was suberb. It is gripping, intense, and immersing. It's a tale rife with struggle, hardship, suffering, anguish, hope, and the human condition is on display.

Leo's acting is second to none, and Tom hardy has been a personal favorite of mine for years now ever since I first saw him portray Bronson. Both of them are fantastic in this movie and they both deserve awards. I can't praise DiCaprio enough for his amazing talent on camera. Almost everyone of his movies over the past 15 years have been out of the park and he has only been getting better.

The cinematography is ground breaking, honestly. Some scenes take your breathe away and are almost unbelievable that they are real and not computer generated or super imposed.

I'm glad I avoided all the trailers and rumors about the film. I wanted to go into it knowing nothing about it and it payed off. I was blown away. Highly recommend this film.
 

Eskhander

Pelican
Legit film. Loved it.

If I had a criticism it's only because I don't think the "natives" (they were not the first) and the conflict with Europeans was so black and white, but this movie had shades of gray mixed in so I won't hold it against the film.
 

NewMeta

Kingfisher
getdownonit said:
Good to hear the praise, planning on seeing this soon

NewMeta said:
Went into this having never seen the trailer or ever heard of it (didn't even know Leo was in it going in, truly fresh introduction).

Was boring for the first 10 minutes until he got mauled by the bear, then it all changed, it ended up being one of the sickest movies I've seen all year.

We're ten days in bro

looool i watched it last year to be fair my own fault for posting in 2016 :D
 

kaotic

Owl
Gold Member
Lucky said:
Mild spoilers:

One thing I didn't understand was the French guy who showed up at the settlement and said his men were killed. He had DiCaprio's canteen with him. Didn't DiCaprio just kill one man and the Indian chick killed the dude who raped her? The only thing I can think of is that the Indian chick ran off and returned with her tribe to kill the French settlers and the one man escaped. How did this man wind up at the settlement, did I miss something? I did get up to take a piss at one point.

The Indian girl took off one way, Leo took off another, apparently he didn't get very far since he passed out near a fire.

My guess is, the Indians who were tracking Leo's crew in the beginning, tracked down the frenchies (probably saw the hung indian with the savage sign), killed as many as they could (that one frenchie got away), and the Indians followed Leo's trail, which is where he took off the cliff.
 

El Chinito loco

 
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kaotic said:
Lucky said:
Mild spoilers:

One thing I didn't understand was the French guy who showed up at the settlement and said his men were killed. He had DiCaprio's canteen with him. Didn't DiCaprio just kill one man and the Indian chick killed the dude who raped her? The only thing I can think of is that the Indian chick ran off and returned with her tribe to kill the French settlers and the one man escaped. How did this man wind up at the settlement, did I miss something? I did get up to take a piss at one point.

The Indian girl took off one way, Leo took off another, apparently he didn't get very far since he passed out near a fire.

My guess is, the Indians who were tracking Leo's crew in the beginning, tracked down the frenchies (probably saw the hung indian with the savage sign), killed as many as they could (that one frenchie got away), and the Indians followed Leo's trail, which is where he took off the cliff.

It wasn't the Indians who got them he said it was the wolves. During the conversation with the captain the Frenchman said that they were attacked by an unknown guy (Glass) who chased off their horses too and they were left to walk in the wilderness.

That's even more brutal.
 

kaotic

Owl
Gold Member
El Chinito loco said:
kaotic said:
Lucky said:
Mild spoilers:

One thing I didn't understand was the French guy who showed up at the settlement and said his men were killed. He had DiCaprio's canteen with him. Didn't DiCaprio just kill one man and the Indian chick killed the dude who raped her? The only thing I can think of is that the Indian chick ran off and returned with her tribe to kill the French settlers and the one man escaped. How did this man wind up at the settlement, did I miss something? I did get up to take a piss at one point.

The Indian girl took off one way, Leo took off another, apparently he didn't get very far since he passed out near a fire.

My guess is, the Indians who were tracking Leo's crew in the beginning, tracked down the frenchies (probably saw the hung indian with the savage sign), killed as many as they could (that one frenchie got away), and the Indians followed Leo's trail, which is where he took off the cliff.

It wasn't the Indians who got them he said it was the wolves. During the conversation with the captain the Frenchman said that they were attacked by an unknown guy (Glass) who chased off their horses too and they were left to walk in the wilderness.

That's even more brutal.

No shit ? It didn't seem like the horses were chased off, I was half in a Nyquil Coma when I saw that part, but it makes sense.

I gotta rewatch that part. The dude getting his shit cut off was brutal.
 

El Chinito loco

 
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^

Yeah during that scene where he steals the horse and shoots the guy the Frenchmen's saddleless horses are definitely galloping away in front. It's pretty funny.
 

Only One Man

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I thought the movie sucked actually. The cinematography was great but the movie itself came across as trying way too hard to be important and deep and ended up being kind of cheesy. All the native american "you are my son" stuff between Leo and his son seemed stupid and forced, as did the native american quotes and visions throughout. It started off great but then ended up basically going nowhere with zero characters to give a shit about besides Leo, and even then it was hard to care about him because he never spoke or socially interacted with anyone and there was no backstory to anything. The movie was literally two plus hours of Leo grimacing in pain.

I was really disappointed because i thought the movie was going to be about a group of fur trappers going about their business and going through the shit they went through with Indians and nature but that only lasted for the first five minutes of the movie. The bear attack/leaving Leo for dead should have been way later in the movie, and 20-30 minutes of him alone trying to survive would have been plenty to accomplish what took the movie two hours. Leo is my all time favorite actor and this was probably the worst movie I've seen him in. I hope he never works with this director again.
 

Lucky

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Gold Member
kaotic said:
The Indian girl took off one way, Leo took off another, apparently he didn't get very far since he passed out near a fire.

My guess is, the Indians who were tracking Leo's crew in the beginning, tracked down the frenchies (probably saw the hung indian with the savage sign), killed as many as they could (that one frenchie got away), and the Indians followed Leo's trail, which is where he took off the cliff.

That's what I figured. What a movie.

El Chinito loco said:
It wasn't the Indians who got them he said it was the wolves. During the conversation with the captain the Frenchman said that they were attacked by an unknown guy (Glass) who chased off their horses too and they were left to walk in the wilderness.

That's even more brutal.

God damn now I'm having flashbacks of the movie The Grey.
 

Windom Earle

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Gold Member
Only One Man said:
It started off great but then ended up basically going nowhere with zero characters to give a shit about besides Leo, and even then it was hard to care about him because he never spoke or socially interacted with anyone and there was no backstory to anything. The movie was literally two plus hours of Leo grimacing in pain.

I was really disappointed because i thought the movie was going to be about a group of fur trappers going about their business and going through the shit they went through with Indians and nature but that only lasted for the first five minutes of the movie. The bear attack/leaving Leo for dead should have been way later in the movie, and 20-30 minutes of him alone trying to survive would have been plenty to accomplish what took the movie two hours.

Whilst I wouldn't go as far as saying the movie sucked, in comparison to contemporary films, I would tend to agree with your comments. Whilst visually stunning, with some camera movements/shots leaving you thinking "how did they do that?", it felt poorly paced, with the three-act structure muddled.

And I'm not sure how near fatal injuries affect your ability to speak, even if it's a whisper. He didn't have a stroke. It felt like a purely fictional plot device so they could legitimise the "blinking" scene.
 

El Chinito loco

 
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Windom Earle said:
Whilst I wouldn't go as far as saying the movie sucked, in comparison to contemporary films, I would tend to agree with your comments. Whilst visually stunning, with some camera movements/shots leaving you thinking "how did they do that?", it felt poorly paced, with the three-act structure muddled.

The director is an obvious fan of John Ford westerns and Kurosawa films like Dersu Uzala. If you watch a lot of those old classic films they have a similar pacing and sweeping grandoise ambition when it came to using and showcasing the natural environment. This is quite different from a lot of modern film these days which is full of fast cuts. It seems slow paced to us now because we're so used to modern film.

Even back in the 70's there were a lot of films which had minimal dialogue but were still awesome as fuck. Steve Mcqueen (the real guy not the forum fag who ripped his name) had a few films like this.

And I'm not sure how near fatal injuries affect your ability to speak, even if it's a whisper. It's not like he had a stroke. It felt like a purely fictional plot device so they could legitimise the "blinking" scene.

He got mauled in the throat and had a huge gash there. So the not being able to speak properly thing seems pretty legit.
 

rpg

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El Chinito loco said:
Windom Earle said:
Whilst I wouldn't go as far as saying the movie sucked, in comparison to contemporary films, I would tend to agree with your comments. Whilst visually stunning, with some camera movements/shots leaving you thinking "how did they do that?", it felt poorly paced, with the three-act structure muddled.

The director is an obvious fan of John Ford westerns and Kurosawa films like Dersu Uzala. If you watch a lot of those old classic films they have a similar pacing and sweeping grandoise ambition when it came to using and showcasing the natural environment. This is quite different from a lot of modern film these days which is full of fast cuts. It seems slow paced to us now because we're so used to modern film.

Even back in the 70's there were a lot of films which had minimal dialogue but were still awesome as fuck. Steve Mcqueen (the real guy not the forum fag who ripped his name) had a few films like this.

And I'm not sure how near fatal injuries affect your ability to speak, even if it's a whisper. It's not like he had a stroke. It felt like a purely fictional plot device so they could legitimise the "blinking" scene.

He got mauled in the throat and had a huge gash there. So the not being able to speak properly thing seems pretty legit.
I think the fast pacing of modern movies is part responsible for the short attention spans of most kids. It has damaged their brain function.
 

Windom Earle

Pelican
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Let me clarify what I meant by "poorly paced".

It does not equate to boring/slow (I was enthralled from start to finish), but rather, sequences that come at the audience in fits and starts with limited cohesion.

Rather than carefully using "pacing" to build tension, culminating in a pay-off/release for the audience with climactic scenes (of which there were many climactic scenes, too many I would say), it felt sporadic and therefore "poorly paced" in my opinion.
 
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