The RFK Jr. Thread

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
Looks like RFK Jr. will be in the news for a while coming up, so hopefully this thread will be of value.

Here is an in depth review of RFK Jr's book on Fauci and the Covid Vaxx. Very strong stuff!


Here is a link I posted in another thread, as a background piece on him. Among other things, it mentions he is an active Catholic who attends church and prays regularly.


Here's a link talking about his platform. While there's a lot about him to like, I will say a lot of his platform consists of things I have long thought to be far out liberal craziness. A lot of policies (like environmentalism) that I might like under the right circumstances turn out as pure big-government totalitarianism in the hands of liberal politicians and activists.

 

dicknixon72

Pelican
Here's a link talking about his platform. While there's a lot about him to like, I will say a lot of his platform consists of things I have long thought to be far out liberal craziness. A lot of policies (like environmentalism) that I might like under the right circumstances turn out as pure big-government totalitarianism in the hands of liberal politicians and activists.


Environmental stewardship is a noble endeavor, one vital to our quality of life, the preservation of this beautiful American continent for ourselves and future generations, and true to the spirit of Christianity - God gave us this beautiful, unique planet, why would we spite him in abusing it unnecessarily?

Environmental activism is an outright perversion of that endeavor, co-opted by (((them))) as another means of consolidating power and control.

There is a difference between ensuring industries don't belch particulates and unnatural chemicals into the atmosphere and our waters and rightfully castigating mouth-breathers for 'rolling coal' in their beater trucks every ten yards for absolutely zero reason other than "ownin' libzzz" and creating some fabricated illusion of 'carbon offsets' as a means to stifle the middle class.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
Running under a (D) makes me automatically wary. At the end of the day, is he still not just a member of the big club?

He'll certainly have factors in his favor; family name to snare the boomer vote, (D) to get the bleqs and Hispanic vote.

Time will tell.
Trump ran as (R), but he wasn't in the club. My first thought is that the (D) club will want to kill RKF Jr the way they did his dad and uncle, for wanting to commit the same offenses they did.

Edit: I have to assume his political impulses will lean towards unrealistic liberal solutions. Even if he has a better, clearer vision of how to do things, he would depend on the existing Democratic party for support, who are completely corrupt, and would stymie him completely. It would be like Trump all over, but in a different flavor.
 
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RedLagoon

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Robert is an excellent source to educate yourself on the dangers of all vaccines and has helped me make the decision to not vax up my children with anything. I'd recommend reading his books when (thinking of) having children and decide for yourself. He has also fought for a lot of families who have vaccine injured children. Best of luck to him and may God be on his side.
 

Caduceus

Ostrich
RFK junior's speech impediment is the huge elephant in the room. As a powerful politician nowadays in our media saturated empire, you have to talk...A LOT, and sound clear and confident every time doing so.

His voice unfortunately isn't that pleasant to listen to more than few minutes because of this speech problem (disability ??) he has. It's a totally superficial reason to discount a great candidate, but it's an issue that will heavily influence any presidential run he makes.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
RFK junior's speech impediment is the huge elephant in the room. As a powerful politician nowadays in our media saturated empire, you have to talk...A LOT, and sound clear and confident every time doing so.

His voice unfortunately isn't that pleasant to listen to more than few minutes. It's a totally superficial reason to discount a great candidate, but it's an issue that will heavily influence any presidential run he makes.
I didn't know about this! I've only ever read about him. That is unfortunate. He should just make extensive use of spokesmen and high end surrogate speakers, and only come up to make the final key points. People will understand and praise his courage in overcoming the problem.
 

thejoyofhate

Pigeon
Trad Catholic
RFK junior's speech impediment is the huge elephant in the room. As a powerful politician nowadays in our media saturated empire, you have to talk...A LOT, and sound clear and confident every time doing so.

His voice unfortunately isn't that pleasant to listen to more than few minutes. It's a totally superficial reason to discount a great candidate, but it's an issue that will heavily influence any presidential run he makes.
Biden sounds brain dead half the time and received the most votes in history.
 

FrancisK

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
This is good news.

He won't win, but he'll definitely bring attention to the COVID tyranny.

This could change the conversation about normies, many of whom know those who have been vaxx-injured, or have been vaxx injured themselves.

I know an Irish Catholic family, very religious very good people. The father passed recently God rest his soul, mother, two boys and two girls. The parents were old school boomer democrats but very good strong parents, the two boys conservative, the youngest girl in the middle on things and the oldest girl I eventually converted to being a conservative....really nice girl. All very well educated, just flat out very good people traditional middle class old school well rounded and polite...I honestly can't say enough nice things about them, a dying breed and breath of fresh air for sure.

For some reason they were all super on board with the vax, even the conservative boys, only the older daughter didn't take the poison after I convinced her not to and they chastised her to no end for it.

Well the father died of a heart attack, the youngest daughter started having random unexplained seizures which has decimated her life because she can't drive a car or really do anything because of the threat of a random seizure and the youngest boy is having random heart palpitations to which they can't determine the cause and he has had to stop doing anything strenuous and take meds for it. They all lived very clean healthy lives with no change in anything other than the common denominator of them all having been vaxxed.

Even after all that they refuse to blame it on the vax, the oldest daughter will mention it sometimes and they will completely shoot her down.

Honestly I don't think there is much hope to turn around the vaxies, a very small percentage maybe but most them know they can't change it so they will never admit they were wrong, it's just human nature and they're in too deep.
 

Parmesan

Pelican
Other Christian
This could change the conversation about normies, many of whom know those who have been vaxx-injured, or have been vaxx injured themselves.
Vaccine skepticism was more in the realm of “green” urban liberalism before Covid authoritarianism became a pillar of liberal politics. It went along with the whole organic, non-GMO hype of the 2000s. Netflix featured an infamous documentary on it (when Netflix actually had edgy material outside of liberal orthodoxy). Just toss it in the bag of, “things liberals did 10 years ago that makes you a Nazi today”.
 

scorpion

Pelican
Gold Member
RFK junior's speech impediment is the huge elephant in the room. As a powerful politician nowadays in our media saturated empire, you have to talk...A LOT, and sound clear and confident every time doing so.

His voice unfortunately isn't that pleasant to listen to more than few minutes because of this speech problem (disability ??) he has. It's a totally superficial reason to discount a great candidate, but it's an issue that will heavily influence any presidential run he makes.
Oddly enough, I think his voice may actually work to his advantage. Not for helping him actually win the primary by appearing like a strong leader, but for garnering unconscious sympathy for his arguments and spreading them far and wide across the general public (which I think is his realistic objective in running anyway). When he speaks, your subconscious mind can't help but wonder, "Why is this guy even talking? He sounds sick and in pain. But if he's going to the effort of speaking through this obvious disability, whatever he's saying must be important, so I should listen carefully." His speech problem also seems to have forced to be extremely careful and succinct with his words, which helps him appear more earnest and authentic. It separates him from literally every other politician, all of whom just run off at the mouth with an endless stream of verbal diarrhea that actually communicates very little of substance.
 

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
I applaud his Vaccine Work, and I've got his Fauci Book.

There are some reasons RFK is an absolute No vote for me:

His litigation history with Oil and Gas and Anti Energy....His Environment agenda is enough to ensure a NO.

Just so everyone knows.... (and maybe these things don't bother you) Who am I to questions another's faith... but the below doesn't seem concomitant with good Catholic behavior.

He's also got some skeletons in his own closet

 

Parmesan

Pelican
Other Christian
I don’t think he will get the democrats nomination. Democrats are in lockstep agreement that vaccine is good and they are all triple jabbed happily , and getting their kids triple jabbed . He will be screeched at as “discredited conspiracy theorist” by all of the left
They have already shown there appears to be no limits to the liberal loyalty tests, how long until their children are sacrificed entirely?
 

DanielH

Hummingbird
Moderator
Orthodox
RFK junior's speech impediment is the huge elephant in the room. As a powerful politician nowadays in our media saturated empire, you have to talk...A LOT, and sound clear and confident every time doing so.
If John Fetterman can win a senate election against a person of normal or above average cognitive and speech ability, RFK Jr. can win a presidential primary against Joe Biden.

Regarding his environmental views... it's actually comical. He's against any CO2 emitting fuels, he's against nuclear power, AND he's against hydroelectric power. We'll just power the country via stationary bicycles and live in teepees then, I guess.

At a minimum if he can at least make the masses more skeptical towards vaccines, that's great, but knowing how normies operate, if he were to win the presidency and push the anti-vaxx agenda, then that's just going to make Republicans more pro-vaccine. For those who doubt me... "Operation Warp Speed." I also don't see DeSantis or Trump beating RFK Jr. in the general election. My justification is that this time will be even more rigged in a number of key swing states than ever before, further demographic change, and Hillary and Biden were horrendous candidates, who either just barely lost or actually won against Trump.
 
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