The RFK Jr. Thread

I've noticed that since yesterday I've got continuous RFK recommendations at Youtube to watch his speeches etc. If the Jews recommend it I'm fairly sceptical on whether this guy is legit or under some type of influence. He does seem like a good figure to rally the masses, to present him like semi-based not too left/liberal kind of ''good guy'' who has good intentions. We shall see I guess.
 
Samseau said:
I notice most of the attention RFK jr. gets is from Republicans online. This is because Republicans have already learned to ignore gatekeepers, and are more rebellious by nature. Democrats, conversely, are sheep, and know little to nothing of JFK jr beyond what they see or hear on the mainstream media.

I asked some Democrat relatives what they thought of RFK jr, and they just said "Isn't he that conspiracy guy? Seems kinda weird." That's all they know because that's all he gets in the mainstream media: a 1 sentence dismissal as a conspiracy guy.

I have no idea how he'll break through to normies, but everyone has to admit this is the genius of Trump - he can break down the gatekeepers and get his message out to the masses. It is one of Trump's most valuable qualities and we can see how good men like RFK jr. are completely marginalized by the media unless they are outrageous enough to command attention independently of the gatekeepers.
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I received a similar reaction when I brought up RFK Jr. to a democrat/liberal friend of mine. He made a sour expression on his face and thought that RFK Jr. was anti-science due to his stance on vaccines. I mentioned that I had read RFK Jr's book on Fauci and had asked my friend if he had heard of Fauci's savage use of Beagles as lab animals. My friend said he hand't and I told him to look it up and left it at that.
I could see the wheels spinning in his head at the possibility of contradictory programming (he is a major dog-lover/nature conservationist).

I don't think he ever looked it up (or wanted to), because it would challenge his science-as-religion complex and also make him realize that "Pope" Fauci is a horrible human being. I think a lot of democrats are similar. They like the comfort of their worldview and the anger and moral high-ground that they think it gives them. They are everything they lambast cultish-evangelicals for being and will consume anything that the corporate mega media dishes out to them as gospel.
 
RedLagoon said:
He looks better than 98% of the 20 something and 30 something year olds in the west, very impressive. You want someone with that discipline to be your leader. Makes me feel kinda bad about myself as now I really need to get rid of the dad pudge that's been piling up over the last few years.

Come to think of it; if he's going to be a good president he might be a future inspiration for the Americans to get off the couch and start taking care of themselves and put a dent in the obesity pandemic. Now that would be an achievement.
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His pecs are clearly impressive but the fact that his stomach is so thin and flat is absolutely insane. I still can barely believe it, that is hard to do. It is better than 98% of 20 year olds. Completely ludicrous.

EDIT - his stomach is comparable to Frank Zane's when he won 3 Olympias in a row. It's mind blowing. I need to do more sit-ups and diet better. This is really bugging me. Since when is RFK Jr. a bodybuilder? It is not computing in my head yet. Cognitive dissonance has taken over.
 
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RFK Jr. was on Bill Maher's podcast (almost 2 hours long). He shared a lot of very interesting stories about his family (i.e., JFK, his father, LBJ, etc.). They covered a wide range of topics: vaccines, "Woke" Democratic/Liberals/Left, MSM, etc.

 
get2choppaaa said:
I applaud his Vaccine Work, and I've got his Fauci Book.

There are some reasons RFK is an absolute No vote for me:

His litigation history with Oil and Gas and Anti Energy....His Environment agenda is enough to ensure a NO.
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His views on how we should rebuild the energy markets don't have any grounding in basic reality with how electrical grids work. It's like a fairytale about how things "should" be. Sounds nice, but sheep don't actually jump over the moon.

That being said, energy is not his strong suit, and there's no perfect candidate. RFK jr seems about as good as we can expect.
 
Samseau said:
I notice most of the attention RFK jr. gets is from Republicans online. This is because Republicans have already learned to ignore gatekeepers, and are more rebellious by nature. Democrats, conversely, are sheep, and know little to nothing of JFK jr beyond what they see or hear on the mainstream media.

I asked some Democrat relatives what they thought of RFK jr, and they just said "Isn't he that conspiracy guy? Seems kinda weird." That's all they know because that's all he gets in the mainstream media: a 1 sentence dismissal as a conspiracy guy.

I have no idea how he'll break through to normies, but everyone has to admit this is the genius of Trump - he can break down the gatekeepers and get his message out to the masses. It is one of Trump's most valuable qualities and we can see how good men like RFK jr. are completely marginalized by the media unless they are outrageous enough to command attention independently of the gatekeepers.
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I know how he could do it. Stop putting things in terms of "democrats vs republicans" and start framing everything in terms of "good policy vs failed policy"

The decades long propaganda and demagoguery campaigns have irredeemably cross "tainted" (successfully as intended) the "brand" of the respective other sides. That's what makes it so easy to condemn "republican, conservative, The Right" in emotional fell strokes.

"Policy that is better you, your family, your community, your country and the world"

Force the dialectical conversation before the labels.

Thats the only way
 
I was curious on his position on illegal immigration:

www.foxnews.com

Robert F Kennedy Jr slams Biden border 'chaos' after illegal immigrant allegedly slaughters five in Texas

Democratic presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr., promised to address illegal immigration and address the border in a series of tweets.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

He wants a tough border but also wants expand legal immigration. So he would still be open borders, but at least we could have background checks and drug searches. It's an upgrade over lawless Biden but a downgrade from "send 'em back" Trump.

This would make me want to vote for Trump over JFK jr, but that would be a actually good matchup for the country to have a fair debate over immigration. Instead, we'll get pedo rapist crimelord Biden vs Trump, complete with massive cheating to account for the fact that less than 35% of the country would vote for Biden.
 
Viktor Zeegelaar said:
I've noticed that since yesterday I've got continuous RFK recommendations at Youtube to watch his speeches etc. If the Jews recommend it I'm fairly sceptical on whether this guy is legit or under some type of influence. He does seem like a good figure to rally the masses, to present him like semi-based not too left/liberal kind of ''good guy'' who has good intentions. We shall see I guess.
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It's funny as I get no such recommendations, he seems swiped off YouTube here.

I read his book and my kids are unvaxxed and have never been sick, unlike their friends. This man has something to stand on unlike the other clowns in this (fake) race.

"Love it how the Americans go crazy over a fit man :laughter: Truly is like a unicorn flying around in the land of Walmart ogers I guess lol."

He isn't "just fit" anywhere else either and you know that.
 
Another excellent interview given in NH.



The man is rational and explains all of his positions in detail, including why he's skeptical of nuclear. He hates the open border with a passion and describes its evils well. 80% of Republicans would not mind having this man as Pres, even if they disagreed with him.
 
Samseau said:
I was curious on his position on illegal immigration:

www.foxnews.com

Robert F Kennedy Jr slams Biden border 'chaos' after illegal immigrant allegedly slaughters five in Texas

Democratic presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr., promised to address illegal immigration and address the border in a series of tweets.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

He wants a tough border but also wants expand legal immigration. So he would still be open borders, but at least we could have background checks and drug searches. It's an upgrade over lawless Biden but a downgrade from "send 'em back" Trump.

This would make me want to vote for Trump over JFK jr, but that would be a actually good matchup for the country to have a fair debate over immigration. Instead, we'll get pedo rapist crimelord Biden vs Trump, complete with massive cheating to account for the fact that less than 35% of the country would vote for Biden.
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Trump said in his state of the union that he wanted record numbers of legal immigrants.
 
Samseau said:
He never stated how many. He only said "thousands and thousands" but never gave a number, because the number was a prime negotiating point.
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Trump changed the speech to include "largest numbers ever"...

“Legal immigrants enrich our nation and strengthen our society in countless ways,” the president said. “I want people to come into our country in the largest numbers ever, but they have to come in legally.”

2019 SOTU - legal immigration
 
It_is_my_time said:
Trump changed the speech to include "largest numbers ever"...

“Legal immigrants enrich our nation and strengthen our society in countless ways,” the president said. “I want people to come into our country in the largest numbers ever, but they have to come in legally.”

2019 SOTU - legal immigration
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No new people, legal or illegal, should be allowed to come in for a long, long time. The flow needs to go in the OTHER direction.
 
It_is_my_time said:
Trump changed the speech to include "largest numbers ever"...

“Legal immigrants enrich our nation and strengthen our society in countless ways,” the president said. “I want people to come into our country in the largest numbers ever, but they have to come in legally.”

2019 SOTU - legal immigration
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This is just a sales speech - "largest numbers ever" LEGALLY, which means far below the ILLEGAL amount we're currently getting. We could double the amount of legal immigrants coming in, as long as no more illegals come in and cut down total immigration by 90% right now.

The amount of illegals is off the charts, so by saying Trump would let in the largest amount of (legal) immigrants ever makes it sound like he's really for immigration to those in Congress whose votes Trump was trying to win. In reality the total effective immigration would fall to historic levels not seen since the 1960's, which is when illegals started to pour into the country (under Johnson). He used a sleight on words since his inauguration speech was also trying to get Congress to side with him, but he wasn't trying to lie either.

Both statements would be true if Trump had his way:

- Trump let in more (legal) immigrants than ever before
- Trump reduced (legal + illegal) immigration by historic lows not seen since 1960

EDIT: By the way, Trump said similar things about immigration going all the way back to 2015, most supporters understood he was using salesmanship to sell the idea of not having an open border.
 
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GuitarVH said:
No new people, legal or illegal, should be allowed to come in for a long, long time. The flow needs to go in the OTHER direction.
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Good luck with that! I agree with you, but politically the last chance to keep America White was back with Reagan. I think the ship has sailed, even Trump realized he had to compromise on something in order to stop illegal immigration (or else you can't get through CONgress).

Regardless, legal immigration at least brings in people who obey basic laws like not murdering, stealing, and drug pushing.
 
Samseau said:
Good luck with that!
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Thanks!

The ship has taken on so much water that not one more drop is even remotely tolerable, and in fact, is unthinkable.

Samseau said:
I agree with you
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Good.

Obvious solutions to existential problems need to be written and spoken out-loud as often as possible by as many people as possible. Until the Bolsheviks completely criminalize political speech, which they will try, important ideas should be promulgated.
 
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