The Richard Spencer and alt-right thread
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Jünger
Ostrich
So weird that the liberal American Jews still hate him so much
Well, Trump prevented any new wars, a feat which no president has done since Jimmy Carter. That's a pretty huge reason for Jews to hate him right there.
And the way Trump went about his pro-Israeli position was all wrong. You don't come out and say "It's fine for Jews to steal Palestinian Lands." That raises too many questions about why Jews can violate the law, and plus leads to dangerous nationalism at home (If Jews can do this, why not Americans?).
No, what Jews want is that you just quietly let them violate the law, because they are special. What Trump did was actually draw more attention to the crimes and hypocrisy of Israel, while all presidents since Carter simply have quietly let Israeli settlers steal more land while taking no action other than occasionally verbally criticizing it.
Unsurprisingly, Jews also hated Jimmy Carter.
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And the way Trump went about his pro-Israeli position was all wrong. You don't come out and say "It's fine for Jews to steal Palestinian Lands." That raises too many questions about why Jews can violate the law, and plus leads to dangerous nationalism at home (If Jews can do this, why not Americans?).
No, what Jews want is that you just quietly let them violate the law, because they are special. What Trump did was actually draw more attention to the crimes and hypocrisy of Israel, while all presidents since Carter simply have quietly let Israeli settlers steal more land while taking no action other than occasionally verbally criticizing it.
Unsurprisingly, Jews also hated Jimmy Carter.
How Jimmy Carter Lost The Vote Of New York’s Jews
Jimmy Carter lost the 1980 Primary election in New York due to two major blunders by UN ambassadors surrounding resolutions about Israel
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Jimmy Carter believed he lost a second term because he opposed settlements, alienating Jews — Eizenstat
Jimmy Carter said he'd 'commit suicide' before he abandoned Israel, but American Jewish leaders did not trust him because of his parallel commitment to a "Palestinian homeland"
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I have seen these posts of Spencer's and I have in the past been a defender of him. I wonder if he isn't being paid to shill for vaccines by some nefarious source. It makes no sense for him to go out on a limb, on a subject that isn't any where close to his normal topic, unless he was being paid to do so. Or maybe he truly cannot read the room and is just this clueless to how the average person is living in 2021.
griffinmill
Kingfisher
I used to defend this guy until I heard the leaked audio of him sounding totally unhinged.
By the way, very suspicious that this avowed "white nationalist" has never been removed from social media. Very weird...
By the way, very suspicious that this avowed "white nationalist" has never been removed from social media. Very weird...
I don't think Keith Woods supported the lockdowns.
I don't know where Keith Woods stood on it.
I do know where the TRS guys stood and that post from "nazbolexposed" is not accurate. They said "fine, if we have to lock down, then pay me". Meaning, if it is bad enough we need to lock down and keep everyone separate, that is fine, but you need to pay us. We paid taxes for decades on end and we get nothing in return. We are in great need right now, so give us some of that tax money back to pay us to have some down time.
I know TRS is not in favor of mandatory vaccines and they make fun of libtards for wearing masks outdoors and even talked about being out in a park and upsetting them by on purpose not wearing masks as they were not required there.
Warrior Nobility
Sparrow
More vaccine nonsense from Spencer.
What did I tell you about this guy. Never trust the elitist types in right wing movement, especially if they're not Christians. These guys will start shitting on convervative "proles" the first moment the conservatives stop being convenient for them.
Also I don't buy it he's paid for this or working for anyone. This is totally in line with his other views. He has always been an (openly) racist version of a left-liberal elitist who wants the state to come down hard on 'undesirables'. All of his views were genuine, the right simply wasn't able to see through it because they just thought he is based for being a well-spoken guy repeating some racist memes from time to time.
Warrior Nobility
Sparrow
I think there are a lot of leftist liberals who genuinely like him because he basically represents their views, but they're not able to admit it openly. This also explains the weird media obsession with him back in 16/17.
I mean, is there a single view that Spencer has that an educated upper class white American liberal would disagree with? You might say racism but studies show that many liberals are in fact secretly racist, and that there are more racist liberals than conservatives (racist jokes more popular internet searches in liberal areas etc.).
Everything else Spencer says is basically generic left liberalism, but done in a more clever and engaging way. I think this is why the leftist social media platforms ultimately let him be. They enjoy how much he bashes the "dumb conservatives".
First of all "everything Spencer says is basically left liberalism" is a gross misrepresentation of his views.
The bigger issue is just a difference between American politics and European politics (one could include Israel as well). Spencer's views fit very well into what Israeli right wing or European right wing parties want, while they might not fit in with the Republican party very well. I don't really have a problem with this, because I dislike Republicans at least as much as Democrats, but I understand why it causes confusion.
For example, "conservatives" fully support the national health care systems of Europe. These are seen as benefits for the European people, and just as the Belgian police should help any Belgian who is the victim of a crime, Belgian doctors should also treat any Belgian who is sick. That is a basic tenet of their society. Whereas in America you have a weird mix of all kinds of different races and classes, and people often do not want the state to help those from the classes they don't belong to.
Likewise, European politicians from both sides are far more aware of Jewish influence, and indeed there is often criticism of Israel from both sides, whereas American Conservatards in particular (but really also libtards) will think you're evil if you criticize Israel.
The American Right is one of the only political parties that (pretends to) believe in small government. Conservative parties throughout Europe don't want government smaller, as much as they want it to do different things than European leftists do.
As for the vaccine issue, I'm still wary of the jab (or at least the Pfizer and Moderna jabs) but in a homogeneous society like Europe or Israel, it is far less likely that the nation is harming its own people with faulty health care. I'm coming around to the idea that the vaccination stuff is really just prepping us for a control grid. A vaccine mandate is less about making sure everyone gets a shot than it is that everyone is tracked through apps and their purchases are monitored and can be switched on and off.
I think he is rightly criticized for certain views, but at least he does hold these views, whereas I couldn't begin to tell you what the Republican party actually believes in (other than wars for democracy, nominally states rights, and funding government indirectly through inflation rather than directly through taxation).
The bigger issue is just a difference between American politics and European politics (one could include Israel as well). Spencer's views fit very well into what Israeli right wing or European right wing parties want, while they might not fit in with the Republican party very well. I don't really have a problem with this, because I dislike Republicans at least as much as Democrats, but I understand why it causes confusion.
For example, "conservatives" fully support the national health care systems of Europe. These are seen as benefits for the European people, and just as the Belgian police should help any Belgian who is the victim of a crime, Belgian doctors should also treat any Belgian who is sick. That is a basic tenet of their society. Whereas in America you have a weird mix of all kinds of different races and classes, and people often do not want the state to help those from the classes they don't belong to.
Likewise, European politicians from both sides are far more aware of Jewish influence, and indeed there is often criticism of Israel from both sides, whereas American Conservatards in particular (but really also libtards) will think you're evil if you criticize Israel.
The American Right is one of the only political parties that (pretends to) believe in small government. Conservative parties throughout Europe don't want government smaller, as much as they want it to do different things than European leftists do.
As for the vaccine issue, I'm still wary of the jab (or at least the Pfizer and Moderna jabs) but in a homogeneous society like Europe or Israel, it is far less likely that the nation is harming its own people with faulty health care. I'm coming around to the idea that the vaccination stuff is really just prepping us for a control grid. A vaccine mandate is less about making sure everyone gets a shot than it is that everyone is tracked through apps and their purchases are monitored and can be switched on and off.
I think he is rightly criticized for certain views, but at least he does hold these views, whereas I couldn't begin to tell you what the Republican party actually believes in (other than wars for democracy, nominally states rights, and funding government indirectly through inflation rather than directly through taxation).
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The guy is a selfish con man anyway
Actually he have nothing in common with European right wingers, Spencer is a product of Americanism in the same way GOPs and Dems are
Free healthcare is one of the tenants of Christian society up to the times of Apostles and Church Fathers themselves
Yep, and the very same European politicians are refugees loving sexually degenerate Maoist lefties
That’s simply because the American right is faithful to their Masonic origins and act like it’s 17th century England
Warrior Nobility
Sparrow
Are you seriously trying to argue that in homogenous European nations, the corrupt openly pro-globalist governments care about their citizens more?
Just check the policies that these countries are imposing, and have been imposing, long before covid even took place.
They're OPENLY against their own people and they don't give a damn about how harmful the vax is. Homogenous European countries have some of the harshest lockdowns and vax mandates around.
Richard and his co-defendants lost the civil case against them...
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Jury finds Unite the Right defendants liable for more than $26 million in damages | CNN
Unite the Right rally organizers found liable for violating Virginia conspiracy statute; plaintiffs are awarded millions in damages.
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The wealthy law firm spent a small fortune prosecuting this case. They lost a small fortune, these guys will never pay a fraction of this back. That tells you how important it is to them to shut down free speech. Really sets a bad precedent, if you have a legally permitted rally to use your 1A rights and Antifa shows up to it and starts a riot and the cops refuse to do their job, then you are criminally responsible financially for the damages.
Richard Spencer went all in on the Corona scam. He even had the gall to re-tweet one of Ramzpaul's tweets to the Oklahoma Police. Why? Because Spencer was mad at Ramzpaul (who was bragging about breaching quarantine at the time). Spencer is too toxic to merit any sympathy.
