The rise of Fat People.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Looking at basic food ingredients, economic downfall - I predict that the fat population will grow.

The poorer the people, the worse the food they eat, unless there is a real shortage of food or total lack of funds to buy anything. But as long as there are food-stamps, there will be enough food for everyone and most will be crap.

Actually studies and real-life examples show a strong correlation between average income of a population and health, fitness, height and even IQ. In the West it is the Dutch and the Norwegians who recently had the most healthy and tallest populations in the world (excluding now the enormous immigrant populations there). They also had very high wages to support their superior eating habits.

Generally the trend will stay and you will have to pay more and more in order to eat in any decent quality. Alternatives are some developing countries where it will take longer to catch up to the West.

 

[The Reactionary Tree]

Working in healthcare I see way too many fatties. The worst is seeing children in their teens with Type II Diabetes. It is unbelievable.

 

[Moma]

Rudebwoy - I don't know if it's an Anglo thing as some even argue that the English are too accepting of certain practices that are detrimental. And since the fat Canada you speak of is the English Canada and America is largely an English speaking country, maybe the fat spread is an English thing.

As I said, I have a female friend who is French who lives in France and we converse with from time to time and she says that fat people are undesired in France with no apologies from the society.

They accept their lot and are relegated to the dregs of society.

Fat is definitely annoying and maybe it's a combo of comfort living, comfort eating and a lot of excuses to re-accept an annoying body shape.

To boot, fat lizards don't even like fat men and will only lust after ripped men with six packs. This shows a total lack of acceptance.

 

[Master Of My Own Kingdom]

Moma- I live in Québec and its more or less similar imo. Most guys consider fatties as a joke and are judged to be wholly undesirable for dating and sex. They are just tolerated, really, which is incredible since this province is strongly feminist, leftist and matriarchial in many aspects of society(school administration, teachings, government, divorce rape, gender relations etc)

Fatties are not brutally rejected as in France(lets be real, Québec is a North American place who has the same lifestyle of NA, and definitely receives Anglo-Saxon influences, despite being clearly different-its a mix of french, european, amerindian and anglo-saxon cultures). The fact that its still in North America, and therefore subject to pernicious influences from Anglo-America softens the ruthless rejection of fatties and fattie acceptance from wider society. But the recent french immigration to Québec(100.000 french from france here) will probably reinforce the general hostility to the ''fatties are beautiful'' movement.

But overall its a fine place. Québec has the most physical active females in Canada, (in terms of physical activity, sports, gym memberships, they really like to take care of their bodies. And since Montreal is a important fashion city(plenty of models here and model agencies)...fat acceptance is not taken seriously at all. Its a lame background noise in the medias.

Only in smaller towns/suburbs in Québec you see American-sized fatties at a noticeable level(20-25% of the population, but its no big deal because most of these fatties are old hags ). In big cities like Québec city, Saguenay(underrated place) some parts of Laval and the south shore, Trois-Rivières and Montréal, its much rarer. They exist there of course(no revelant city in North America is devoid of fatties/fattie/free), but you have really to look hard in order to notice them. The fatties here in Montreal don't come in waves like in many American cities, where you can see, on average, 25-30 landwhales waddling here and there in the day :s

 

[Master Of My Own Kingdom]

Rudebwoy - I don't know if it's an Anglo thing as some even argue that the English are too accepting of certain practices that are detrimental. And since the fat Canada you speak of is the English Canada and America is largely an English speaking country, maybe the fat spread is an English thing.

As I said, I have a female friend who is French who lives in France and we converse with from time to time and she says that fat people are undesired in France with no apologies from the society.

They accept their lot and are relegated to the dregs of society.

Fat is definitely annoying and maybe it's a combo of comfort living, comfort eating and a lot of excuses to re-accept an annoying body shape.

To boot, fat lizards don't even like fat men and will only lust after ripped men with six packs. This shows a total lack of acceptance.

Exactly. Fat bitches have no traction for their fattitude to be enabled in France-even the traditional leftist parties don't give a fuck about fat acceptance, they are a marginal part of french society, and they won't even obtain a job :jordan:

They are just not taken seriously and viewed as freaks and stupid fucks-

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25215641

There's a lot of french women from France here studying or living here on vacation/work and at least 80% of them are not fat or obese by any objective measure.

And I think french women coming here are not all that in pure genetic beauty( they are 5-7 imo). But they compensate for their lack of stunning looks by having more feminity and avoiding fatness. So if these semi-attractive french girls can do that, American girls, would be better, considering that that they have a better baseline of facial looks/genetic beauty overall. With millions of girls liberated from obesity and released on the sexual market, the supply of 6.5-8s in English Canada/ America would explode.

 

[Meadowlark]

On the great 1 to 10 scale, a 5 is borderline fuckable for me. Fatties automatically get a 4 and go down from there. No way in hell would I touch one of these beasts.

 

[Intl_Rasta]

I was downtown Brooklyn a few weeks ago and this big Bitch stop me. Tells me I look good, then proceeds too tell me she is having a party and I should come. She says its BIG GIRLS and MUSCLE GUYS party which was code for Orgy. I remember saying something like not in this life and walked away. She yell something like what you to good, I did not look back.


Also did anyone see this it happened a few days ago on the L train i think.

Woman High On Drugs Finds Out She is Fat

 

[whoishe]

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25215641

I've had no idea that fat shaming is working so well in France, I am very impressed with French people, probably for the first time in my life :dodgy:

It's pathetic that Poland being Eastern/Central Europe country is much more "progressive" with fat allowance

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25215641

I've had no idea that fat shaming is working so well in France, I am very impressed with French people, probably for the first time in my life :dodgy:

It's pathetic that Poland being Eastern/Central Europe country is much more "progressive" with fat allowance

It's not so bad yet in Poland. The demographics do not allow for the women to grow into lard-balls. The ugly or fat ones are relegated to solitary existances, since there are still very few fat girls. But it is on the rise and I can see it with the youngest girls.

France and Italian indigenous girls are pretty thin especially in the big cities. It is not because of lack of "good" food - they usually keep thin until marriage. But it is no surprise because both cultures place great value on healthy and nutritious high-quality food, while making no excuses for being fat.

 

[Teedub]

When I was in Poland, I noticed a fair few socially-accepted overweight girls. Not just a few pounds either.

France is awesome in terms of its anti-fat culture. Even my brother's feminist girlfriend (of French stock) is 100% against fat acceptance.

 

[Saweeep]

You gotta love the French.

What disgusts me most of all is the celebration of fatties with them landing leading roles in tv shows and movies. I find it hard to be civil to fatties.

 

[Meadowlark]

Also, the rise of fat people would be slow and full of farting and groaning.

 

[poledaddy]

I work in at a large publicly traded weight loss company. After seeing tremendous growth through the 2000s, our sales have declined since 2012 or so and the industry as a whole is being hit hard. Execs are constantly theorizing about the causes in meetings - the economy, free apps like MyFitnessPal, trend away from processed food, etc. All important to consider, but there's an 800lb gorilla (pun intended) thats not being even hinted about - the fact that it's more socially acceptable to be fat now than it ever has been in history. I want to shout this from the rooftops, that maybe we need to consider that too. But I'd probably be booted for suggesting it. You know that's a sign of the times - when it's obvious fact that even discussing an important cultural trend (fat acceptance) that is directly relevant to the business, is unthinkable in a corporate setting.

 

[rudebwoy]

Moma I think u may be right it is a Anglo problem.

 

[CRR]

I work in at a large publicly traded weight loss company. After seeing tremendous growth through the 2000s, our sales have declined since 2012 or so and the industry as a whole is being hit hard. Execs are constantly theorizing about the causes in meetings - the economy, free apps like MyFitnessPal, trend away from processed food, etc. All important to consider, but there's an 800lb gorilla (pun intended) thats not being even hinted about - the fact that it's more socially acceptable to be fat now than it ever has been in history. I want to shout this from the rooftops, that maybe we need to consider that too. But I'd probably be booted for suggesting it. You know that's a sign of the times - when it's obvious fact that even discussing an important cultural trend (fat acceptance) that is directly relevant to the business, is unthinkable in a corporate setting.

So true.

Female role models went from Marilyn Monroe to Farah Fawcett to Madonna to Jennifer Aniston to…Lena Dunham.

Being fat, sloppy and obnoxious = girl power. And if you even roll your eyes, well, you're a misogynist!

 

[poledaddy]

Female role models went from Marilyn Monroe to Farah Fawcett to Madonna to Jennifer Aniston to…Lena Dunham.

Well said. Lena Dunham truly is an antichrist.

 

[Carlos100]

Look at this video, for example. I count seven women in the video. Only one of them is not obese.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Look at this video, for example. I count seven women in the video. Only one of them is not obese.

In contrast try to find one obese person in this footage of NY streets from the 1960s and 70s:



Watching it in slow-mo helps - but I could not find one obese person (except for that one guy in the end, who is certainly overweight and on the verge of obesity). Barely saw some 60+ women who were overweight. I estimate that less than 1:100 young women or men were overweight by the time they were in their 20s.

Back then there was no HFCS, soft-drink and beer-cans were significantly smaller, chocolate bars were tiny compared to current size, basically everything was what is now called organic (except for some pesticides, but a lot less). Food was not a concoction of toxic-ingredients and MSG. All of it made people way less addicted to food.

 

[cmrocks]

I lived in Vancouver for 7 years and it was a really thin city. Exercise culture is huge there and people spend a lot of time outside. I now live in Edmonton which has more of a red neck/oil culture. There's definitely a lot more fatties here.

I think part of the reason here in Edmonton is that women don't need to try as hard. There's a massive influx of dudes who work up north with mostly men; they tend to have lots of money and low standards.

 

[Bad Hussar]

I work in at a large publicly traded weight loss company. After seeing tremendous growth through the 2000s, our sales have declined since 2012 or so and the industry as a whole is being hit hard. Execs are constantly theorizing about the causes in meetings - the economy, free apps like MyFitnessPal, trend away from processed food, etc. All important to consider, but there's an 800lb gorilla (pun intended) thats not being even hinted about - the fact that it's more socially acceptable to be fat now than it ever has been in history. I want to shout this from the rooftops, that maybe we need to consider that too. But I'd probably be booted for suggesting it. You know that's a sign of the times - when it's obvious fact that even discussing an important cultural trend (fat acceptance) that is directly relevant to the business, is unthinkable in a corporate setting.

If the company is weight watchers I think you may have a problem with your customer base changing their thinking re diet. I don't know the company in detail but suspect it's main customer base is middle class and upper middle class women. In this demographic, especially upper middle class, gluten-free and low carb theories are very popular. Whether they're right or wrong is almost irrelevant. They are very popular. Maybe shift to low carb diet plans, rather than simple calorie restricted ones, and try to get a gluten free range of prepared meals and you may see an uptick.

Any girl who thinks being fat doesn't affect he "SMV", or it doesn't matter because so many other girls are also fat is severely deluded and can't think properly. The fact that some guy somewhere will fuck her is meaningless, and gives her no information about her attractiveness. The level of guy who will be prepared to both fuck her, and have a LTR with her, increase stratosphericly when she moves from fat to slim. The only girls who can really be comfortable being fat in western cultures are a small group of certain types of lesbians. The rest have an incredible amount to gain from the fairly straightforward task of losing (or not gaining) weight. It's insanity that even one allows herself to become fat. Given the stakes.