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<blockquote data-quote="Philonous" data-source="post: 1497481" data-attributes="member: 22043"><p>Well, there are things members of the ROCOR are going to do that’s going to make it a very powerful presence in America in the next 10 years, and there are things members of the ROCOR are going to do that’s going to lead to splits and schisms of that church in America in the next 10 years.</p><p></p><p>The first thing to address is the fact “ballot suffrage” no longer works for our national elections. 2020 proved that. The POTUS is whoever the DNC says is the POTUS. It can be some half-senile 78 year old political bore who couldn’t fill 200 seats in a town hall during his campaign, yet miraculously wins a record-breaking 81 million votes in the national election. </p><p></p><p>And so our federal elections are worthless. We are now nationally run by a tyranny of liberal Jewish billionaires who operate through the DNC, with the only thing really holding us together as a nation being our uniform dependence on US Federal Reserve Notes (that, and the fear of any seceding state ending-up with DC’s nukes pointed straight at it). </p><p></p><p>And the only way you’re going to see that problem corrected is with a US military coup against DC. One which returns us to a system similar to the one we had under the 1781-1787 Articles of Confederation. </p><p></p><p>That means a day of violence. And that’s something I know no ROCOR rector or bishop is going to be happy to condone. Nonetheless, I would not be surprised at all if the young US military officers who eventually take it upon themselves to commit this overthrow are not, in majority, members of the ROCOR. This, even if they have to practice their faith secretly due to the ever-increasing CRT atmosphere of the US military.</p><p></p><p>Why the ROCOR?</p><p></p><p>Because it’s the branch of Christianity that’s stayed pure. And that’s where the strength to do what I’m talking about is going to come from—it’s going to come from purity of faith. It’s not going to come from a bunch of “Harvard School of Divinity” instructors speculating on whether/not Jesus was a woman.</p><p></p><p>So there you are. Basically, an October Revolution in reverse. This, primarily coming out of the military bases of tidewater Virginia—NSN, Oceana, Langley. This, followed by the nullifying (at gunpoint) of the executive and judicial branches of America’s federal government, and the complete destruction of the US Federal Reserve System. Hopefully, also the complete destruction of America’s stockpile of WMD’s—nuclear and biological. </p><p></p><p>And after that I’d expect the resultant “junta” to rule autocratically over Virginia. The other 49 states would “be on their own”, so to speak. </p><p></p><p>But, yes, Virginia would then be its own theocratic nation-state, and the religious disposition of its theocracy would be ROCOR. </p><p></p><p>And how many—or few—members of the ROCOR are then going to stay in communion with the junta leadership of Virginia?</p><p></p><p>I have no idea. </p><p></p><p>Let me also say I’d expect absolutely nobody involved in any of this right now to admit to such involvement—this, for reasons that cannot possibly be more obvious. I’d expect front-to-back denials on all sides. “You don’t understand—members of the ROCOR can’t do what you’re proposing because of this and that, and that and this, and such and such doctrine—” but then watch them do it anyway.</p><p></p><p>And I have no doubt other members are just going to hate them for it. But it has to come about.</p><p></p><p>Thing is, the longer we stay on the present course the closer we get to a hostile nuclear exchange with Russia. And it wouldn’t even be a nuclear exchange, so much as an EMP exchange. Still, we’d come out absolutely ruined—we’d be like what you saw in the Cormac McCarthy movie “The Road”. In a matter of months we’d be reduced to that level of primitivism. </p><p></p><p>The great hope is that Christ will return beforehand, thereby sparing us all a protracted period of doing without air conditioning, electricity, indoor plumbing, internet, police forces, fire departments, anesthetized surgery, etc. That he’ll show up even though we still hate each other a hell of a sight more than any of us love our neighbor. That God, Himself, will be of the impression a near totally hateful humanity is worth a second visit of His son.</p><p></p><p>I don’t think that’s going to happen. Rather, what I think God is going to do is let the hateful humanity “have at it” against one another. Beat itself down until there’s hardly anything left of it. This, until a significant portion of the surviving populace gets so sick of its own hatreds it learns to live by some other sort of common denominator, attitude, maxim, rubric, or lief motif. </p><p></p><p>Then, that populace might actually merit, to one degree or another, a return of the Son it has learned to appreciate.</p><p></p><p>But not beforehand. </p><p></p><p>And so it’s just a question of “how we run our beforehand”. What all we’re willing do in this interim.</p><p></p><p>Pick a nuclear stand-and-slug with Russia?</p><p></p><p>This, because that’s how Uncle Shmuel says things have to be?</p><p></p><p>Yeah, well—maybe not all are in agreement over that determination.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Philonous, post: 1497481, member: 22043"] Well, there are things members of the ROCOR are going to do that’s going to make it a very powerful presence in America in the next 10 years, and there are things members of the ROCOR are going to do that’s going to lead to splits and schisms of that church in America in the next 10 years. The first thing to address is the fact “ballot suffrage” no longer works for our national elections. 2020 proved that. The POTUS is whoever the DNC says is the POTUS. It can be some half-senile 78 year old political bore who couldn’t fill 200 seats in a town hall during his campaign, yet miraculously wins a record-breaking 81 million votes in the national election. And so our federal elections are worthless. We are now nationally run by a tyranny of liberal Jewish billionaires who operate through the DNC, with the only thing really holding us together as a nation being our uniform dependence on US Federal Reserve Notes (that, and the fear of any seceding state ending-up with DC’s nukes pointed straight at it). And the only way you’re going to see that problem corrected is with a US military coup against DC. One which returns us to a system similar to the one we had under the 1781-1787 Articles of Confederation. That means a day of violence. And that’s something I know no ROCOR rector or bishop is going to be happy to condone. Nonetheless, I would not be surprised at all if the young US military officers who eventually take it upon themselves to commit this overthrow are not, in majority, members of the ROCOR. This, even if they have to practice their faith secretly due to the ever-increasing CRT atmosphere of the US military. Why the ROCOR? Because it’s the branch of Christianity that’s stayed pure. And that’s where the strength to do what I’m talking about is going to come from—it’s going to come from purity of faith. It’s not going to come from a bunch of “Harvard School of Divinity” instructors speculating on whether/not Jesus was a woman. So there you are. Basically, an October Revolution in reverse. This, primarily coming out of the military bases of tidewater Virginia—NSN, Oceana, Langley. This, followed by the nullifying (at gunpoint) of the executive and judicial branches of America’s federal government, and the complete destruction of the US Federal Reserve System. Hopefully, also the complete destruction of America’s stockpile of WMD’s—nuclear and biological. And after that I’d expect the resultant “junta” to rule autocratically over Virginia. The other 49 states would “be on their own”, so to speak. But, yes, Virginia would then be its own theocratic nation-state, and the religious disposition of its theocracy would be ROCOR. And how many—or few—members of the ROCOR are then going to stay in communion with the junta leadership of Virginia? I have no idea. Let me also say I’d expect absolutely nobody involved in any of this right now to admit to such involvement—this, for reasons that cannot possibly be more obvious. I’d expect front-to-back denials on all sides. “You don’t understand—members of the ROCOR can’t do what you’re proposing because of this and that, and that and this, and such and such doctrine—” but then watch them do it anyway. And I have no doubt other members are just going to hate them for it. But it has to come about. Thing is, the longer we stay on the present course the closer we get to a hostile nuclear exchange with Russia. And it wouldn’t even be a nuclear exchange, so much as an EMP exchange. Still, we’d come out absolutely ruined—we’d be like what you saw in the Cormac McCarthy movie “The Road”. In a matter of months we’d be reduced to that level of primitivism. The great hope is that Christ will return beforehand, thereby sparing us all a protracted period of doing without air conditioning, electricity, indoor plumbing, internet, police forces, fire departments, anesthetized surgery, etc. That he’ll show up even though we still hate each other a hell of a sight more than any of us love our neighbor. That God, Himself, will be of the impression a near totally hateful humanity is worth a second visit of His son. I don’t think that’s going to happen. Rather, what I think God is going to do is let the hateful humanity “have at it” against one another. Beat itself down until there’s hardly anything left of it. This, until a significant portion of the surviving populace gets so sick of its own hatreds it learns to live by some other sort of common denominator, attitude, maxim, rubric, or lief motif. Then, that populace might actually merit, to one degree or another, a return of the Son it has learned to appreciate. But not beforehand. And so it’s just a question of “how we run our beforehand”. What all we’re willing do in this interim. Pick a nuclear stand-and-slug with Russia? This, because that’s how Uncle Shmuel says things have to be? Yeah, well—maybe not all are in agreement over that determination. [/QUOTE]
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