The Ron DeSantis Thread

Slim Whitman

Sparrow
Just because a conservative sucks on one issue doesn't mean they are a total loss
"Just because a conservatve cucks on THE MAIN ISSUE doesn't mean they are a total loss."
Um yeah, we'll just disagree there. You keep on compromising your principles, that has worked so wonderfully so far huh? I'm not going to do it. And Trump didn't even do any of those things you cited, he just kvetched on Twitter like a scorned teenage narcissist. Lower immigration?? LOL NO. Pushback on Covid? HUH??? He spent the last six months in office bragging about how he would fast track the vaccine and have THE MILITARY roll it out to all citizens! Fight against LGBT?? HUH?? He constantly virtue signaled and whined about nations that still outlawed homosexuality. You are living in a parallel universe buddy. He was all bluster and the price we pay for that is an energized, galvanized Left who uses Trump as their excuse to declare all out war against the Right. Trump was a net loss. Those in the Trump cult of personality will never accept that they were used and discarded, but it's obvious to anyone who can think objectively.
 

Slim Whitman

Sparrow
Ron De Santis just signed a big bill that keeps the tranny's out of girls' high school sports.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-desantis-signs-transgender-bill

The gays are mad because today is the first day of Pride Month. Florida is home to the biggest and most degenerate-laden pride festivals (my friend told me) in the country. There are more queers in Florida than there are Jews, and there's a lot of Jews. Ballsy move, I say,

Aloha!
This is a classic example of what I mean by throwing an insignificant bone to the Right so they think they are "winning" while his other hand is hollowing out the first and second amendments. Who gives a crap about trannies in sports? Maybe the fraction of a percent who are trannies will be offended, and maybe a few percent of leftists. But I assure you most leftists agree with keeping them out of girls' sports even if they don't say so publicly. It would actually be better to do nothing about this because the people harmed most by male trannies in girls' sports are feminists and leftists. It would force them to come out against it themselves, instead of conveniently being able to blame a "right wing bigot". It would force feminists and leftists to admit that there are very real biological differences between men and women. Let their sports be flooded with men in drag, and let their precious little daughters be defeated time and again by dudes wearing lipstick. Don't you see, it's the perfect way to hoist them on their own petard! NOBODY supports this crap they are just too cowed by the media to say anything - that's why you force their hand and make them speak up.

De Santis appeals to the easily fooled checkers players while he his playing chess on the Israeli team.







 

Cortés

Woodpecker
Gold Member
"Just because a conservatve cucks on THE MAIN ISSUE doesn't mean they are a total loss."
Um yeah, we'll just disagree there. You keep on compromising your principles, that has worked so wonderfully so far huh? I'm not going to do it. And Trump didn't even do any of those things you cited, he just kvetched on Twitter like a scorned teenage narcissist. Lower immigration?? LOL NO. Pushback on Covid? HUH??? He spent the last six months in office bragging about how he would fast track the vaccine and have THE MILITARY roll it out to all citizens! Fight against LGBT?? HUH?? He constantly virtue signaled and whined about nations that still outlawed homosexuality. You are living in a parallel universe buddy. He was all bluster and the price we pay for that is an energized, galvanized Left who uses Trump as their excuse to declare all out war against the Right. Trump was a net loss. Those in the Trump cult of personality will never accept that they were used and discarded, but it's obvious to anyone who can think objectively.
Yeah bro keep complaining online about world Jewry, that will really be the downfall of the 2000 year old Kabal. You blackpillers bitch about this stuff and offer zero realistic solutions. I Would admit that I waswrong if some fat retard from the NJP leads a successful political campaign naming them, but that simply will never happen in America. The rise of a truly nationalist party won't be third party with natsoc aesthetics and calling for a ceiling on Jewish income- that has zero constituency aside from a handful of people on Pol or within that general online sphere. It will be infiltration and pretending to be a normal republican but meanwhile dismantling Zog behind the scenes.

They have been making big moves towards genocide of white people especially in the last century or two. Were they outright saying they were going to kill all white people? No, at least not until now. They kept their true motives hidden, that's our key to dismantling this whole charade.
 
Yeah bro keep complaining online about world Jewry, that will really be the downfall of the 2000 year old Kabal. You blackpillers bitch about this stuff and offer zero realistic solutions. I Would admit that I waswrong if some fat retard from the NJP leads a successful political campaign naming them, but that simply will never happen in America. The rise of a truly nationalist party won't be third party with natsoc aesthetics and calling for a ceiling on Jewish income- that has zero constituency aside from a handful of people on Pol or within that general online sphere. It will be infiltration and pretending to be a normal republican but meanwhile dismantling Zog behind the scenes.

They have been making big moves towards genocide of white people especially in the last century or two. Were they outright saying they were going to kill all white people? No, at least not until now. They kept their true motives hidden, that's our key to dismantling this whole charade.
Both methods have been tried in the USA and both have failed.

You have national hero's like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford, who both tried to do the right thing within the system and in the end they were shunned and tossed aside by the powers that be who run the party through finance and capitalism.

And then you have war veterans like George Lincoln Rockwell, who was gunned down by one of his own supporters.

My advice is to accept both as possible paths because we don't what the future holds, but we know the size of the enemy we are up against is huge and past attempts at stopping it have been shut down.
 

Slim Whitman

Sparrow
Yeah bro keep complaining online about world Jewry, that will really be the downfall of the 2000 year old Kabal. You blackpillers bitch about this stuff and offer zero realistic solutions. I Would admit that I waswrong if some fat retard from the NJP leads a successful political campaign naming them, but that simply will never happen in America. The rise of a truly nationalist party won't be third party with natsoc aesthetics and calling for a ceiling on Jewish income- that has zero constituency aside from a handful of people on Pol or within that general online sphere. It will be infiltration and pretending to be a normal republican but meanwhile dismantling Zog behind the scenes.

They have been making big moves towards genocide of white people especially in the last century or two. Were they outright saying they were going to kill all white people? No, at least not until now. They kept their true motives hidden, that's our key to dismantling this whole charade.
Tough to find anything worth responding to mixed in with all the defeatism, false dichotomies, and straw manning. Two quick points - "You blackpillers bitch about this stuff and offer zero realistic solutions" - how about for starters not electing, supporting, and cheerleading the Israel-First traitors who have led us down this path? that's a realistic solution but you can't even handle that much without punching right in a flurry of impotent rage.

"They kept their true motives hidden, that's our key to dismantling this whole charade."
So you think Trump and De Santis are secretly redpilled on the JQ and they are just biding their time, while passing one legislation after another sanctifying jews, defending israel, and criminalizing free expression? They are just hiding their power level, while they fill their entire administration with hardcore zionists and take billions from jewish donors? LMAO. The more I hear from Trump cultists, the more apparent that they are suffering severe delusions and their false pride won't allow them to let it go.
 
This is a classic example of what I mean by throwing an insignificant bone to the Right so they think they are "winning" while his other hand is hollowing out the first and second amendments.

Too add to this: doing this on June 1st is a clear example of how Repubs have learned to use these issues as PR and more evidence they're manufacturing the culture wars as bait. They piss off the left on purpose for views then throw their supporters under the bus when things get sticky.

The solution is to stop playing this stupid game and go with other options, whether opting out or only supporting real reform candidates who don't compromise and don't use you for views and clicks.

To me this is more evidence that DeSantis is controlled opposition.
 

Slim Whitman

Sparrow
Too add to this: doing this on June 1st is a clear example of how Repubs have learned to use these issues as PR and more evidence they're manufacturing the culture wars as bait. They piss off the left on purpose for views then throw their supporters under the bus when things get sticky.

The solution is to stop playing this stupid game and go with other options, whether opting out or only supporting real reform candidates who don't compromise and don't use you for views and clicks.

To me this is more evidence that DeSantis is controlled opposition.
That is absolutely the game they are playing. Well put. Using the culture wars as bait to lull conservatives into complacency, while any real meaningful action is to the benefit of AIPAC. Even people like Nick Fuentes, who was for a very long time a zionist, a normie republican, and a Trump cheerleader, have woken up to this scam.

It's not to say that you can't appreciate the little tiny things De Santis and Trump do to stick a finger in the eye of the left, but in the bigger picture it's too little, too late. I will never again vote, promote, or donate to a ZioCon huckster in the hopes that the Nationalist Right will catch a few crumbs from the jewish table. I will not support another politician unless they are proudly and explicitly America First. No they don't have to be an open counter-semite of course, they just have to unequivocally stand with the United States which means our blood and treasure is reserved for our agenda alone. As soon as they go pose for that symbolic photo of them kissing the wall, I'm done with them. The symbolism there is clear - "Jews own me".
 

Cortés

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Never did I say that DeSantis or Trump were working undercover and are secretly against Israel.
Both methods have been tried in the USA and both have failed.

You have national hero's like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford, who both tried to do the right thing within the system and in the end they were shunned and tossed aside by the powers that be who run the party through finance and capitalism.

And then you have war veterans like George Lincoln Rockwell, who was gunned down by one of his own supporters.

My advice is to accept both as possible paths because we don't what the future holds, but we know the size of the enemy we are up against is huge and past attempts at stopping it have been shut down.
As far as Charles Lindbergh goes, he was building a successful a political movement until he explicitly expressed support for Hitler. If he just focused on anti-communism and non-interventionism which had brought him the success that he had, his coalition could have gained some footing into the democratic system and make policy that disassembles Jewry without the unappealing rhetoric of literally saying that they will disassemble Jewry. Same sort of thing with Henry Ford, he had ties to Hitler/NatSoc Germany. There was a constituency for growing white racial conscious and anti interventionism, but anti-Hitler sentiment was already to strong in America to allow Ford's political views to gain steam. I dont know much about George Lincoln Rockwell but from my understanding he didnt make it far at all and is only recognized in small dissident right circles

I agree that we shouldnt limit ourselves to just working within the system, although it is my opinion that that is what will get us victories. Usually people who dont think working within the system is the way forward gravitate towards the extreme of focusing entirely on the most unpopular and taboo (for lack of a better term) part of their world view. A politician who can occasionally make some stupid throwaway pro-israel comments but then can get elected and forms an anti-interventionist, anti-BLM, pro-christian coalition paves the way for further right politicians and push "acceptable" right wing opinion further to the right. This is how the left has been operating for decades, but on subjects other than israel of course.
 
Never did I say that DeSantis or Trump were working undercover and are secretly against Israel.

As far as Charles Lindbergh goes, he was building a successful a political movement until he explicitly expressed support for Hitler. If he just focused on anti-communism and non-interventionism which had brought him the success that he had, his coalition could have gained some footing into the democratic system and make policy that disassembles Jewry without the unappealing rhetoric of literally saying that they will disassemble Jewry. Same sort of thing with Henry Ford, he had ties to Hitler/NatSoc Germany. There was a constituency for growing white racial conscious and anti interventionism, but anti-Hitler sentiment was already to strong in America to allow Ford's political views to gain steam. I dont know much about George Lincoln Rockwell but from my understanding he didnt make it far at all and is only recognized in small dissident right circles

I agree that we shouldnt limit ourselves to just working within the system, although it is my opinion that that is what will get us victories. Usually people who dont think working within the system is the way forward gravitate towards the extreme of focusing entirely on the most unpopular and taboo (for lack of a better term) part of their world view. A politician who can occasionally make some stupid throwaway pro-israel comments but then can get elected and forms an anti-interventionist, anti-BLM, pro-christian coalition paves the way for further right politicians and push "acceptable" right wing opinion further to the right. This is how the left has been operating for decades, but on subjects other than israel of course.
I'm not saying DeSantis or Trump are working undercover either.

I get your point, you think the Nick Fuentes route of getting inside the GOP by playing along and then flipping it over on them in the right way to go. This might be true, it might work. I just pointed out guys in the past tried this. Hitler was not unpopular in the USA leading up to WW2. 90% of Americans wanted to stay out of the war in Europe in the fall of 1941 before Pearl Harbor. Or we can go with your point of not going full National Socialist and just calling out "communists" and that gets you Joseph McCarthy, who was very careful with his words and it did him no good and now his name is sullied by the people in charge.

My personal opinion is the NJP type guys need to let Nick do his thing, though I have heard interviews by them and they do just that. And Nick needs to let the NJP guys do their thing and if anyone asks him about them he should say "I don't know anything about them". We need both right now because we don't know which, if either, will work

I am excited Nick was able to get on a platform as big as Infowars and trash the Zionist Barnes and then his gropyer callers got on and really pushed the envelop. Great victory for him and his followers. I am just not certain it is the way to go. I think only time will tell which was the correct route, but I do know that which ever route proves to be correct, then we will need everyone not on that route to jump on board. It is going to take everyone in the dissident right, no matter what petty squabble, to have a chance.

Until then, to tie this back to the thread, DeSantis is a guy that might buy us more time and give the guys like Nick further opportunity to sneak up the party ladder. At least I sure hope so.
 

Slim Whitman

Sparrow
A politician who can occasionally make some stupid throwaway pro-israel comments but then can get elected and forms an anti-interventionist, anti-BLM, pro-christian coalition paves the way for further right politicians and push "acceptable" right wing opinion further to the right.
I agree with you on this. But the links I posted about De Santis and his seeming obsession with pleasing Israel is quite different from making occasional throwaway comments. He is making laws that reduce the Constitutional rights of Americans just to earn brownie points with the Israel lobby. Same goes for people like Ted Cruz and even Trump himself. If you dig into some of their speeches, proclamations, and legislation - either proposed or passed - you find a bizarre, slavish devotion to Israel and the jews, indicating that they are either being bribed, blackmailed, or they are just so brainwashed that they can't see anything wrong with it. They virtue signal about jews/Israel constantly and are more than willing to send billions of dollars over there every year without question, and to send our boys off to die in wars of Israeli conquest. Personally I think it's sick - it's almost like these people are mentally ill or possessed by demons or something. Truly bizarre.

I also agree with It_is_my_time above, that basically we should all let each other do our thing. There is room for all different kinds of approaches and everyone has a niche to fill. No need to counter signal each other or to punch right. I can't stand it when people dump on "wignats" or the NJP guys. I agree that their optics can be poor but so what? We're not in a contest to look good in the eyes of the enemy. You never see the Left disavowing or counter signaling their communists, BLM, antifa terrorists, etc. They just let them be and feign ignorance because they know that they are useful in their own way...which is exactly how we should handle the more radical fringes of the Right.
 

Cortés

Woodpecker
Gold Member
I agree with you on this. But the links I posted about De Santis and his seeming obsession with pleasing Israel is quite different from making occasional throwaway comments. He is making laws that reduce the Constitutional rights of Americans just to earn brownie points with the Israel lobby. Same goes for people like Ted Cruz and even Trump himself. If you dig into some of their speeches, proclamations, and legislation - either proposed or passed - you find a bizarre, slavish devotion to Israel and the jews, indicating that they are either being bribed, blackmailed, or they are just so brainwashed that they can't see anything wrong with it. They virtue signal about jews/Israel constantly and are more than willing to send billions of dollars over there every year without question, and to send our boys off to die in wars of Israeli conquest. Personally I think it's sick - it's almost like these people are mentally ill or possessed by demons or something. Truly bizarre.

I also agree with It_is_my_time above, that basically we should all let each other do our thing. There is room for all different kinds of approaches and everyone has a niche to fill. No need to counter signal each other or to punch right. I can't stand it when people dump on "wignats" or the NJP guys. I agree that their optics can be poor but so what? We're not in a contest to look good in the eyes of the enemy. You never see the Left disavowing or counter signaling their communists, BLM, antifa terrorists, etc. They just let them be and feign ignorance because they know that they are useful in their own way...which is exactly how we should handle the more radical fringes of the Right.
I clarified above, Im not making the case that DeSantis, nor Trump is perfect. Yes, the both of them in particular have way too enthusiastically pushed zionist interests. Believe me, I get where you are coming from with the Jewish lobby, they have been waging war on civilization since the day that they denied Jesus Christ.

Fair enough, although I may have strong opinions towards NJP/alt-right/"wignats" etc I do agree on like 80% of the issues. I understand the value of having different groups use different strategies, however my personal opinion is that the leadership in particular has proven themselves destructive and somewhat reckless with their PR. Even though Charlottesville may have been for a good cause, the execution was awful and ended in disaster that reverberated through the entire right wing for years (doxing, potentially useful allies in the mainstream right distancing from white identity, Js in the Trump admin using this as an excuse to rebrand Trump for 2020 reelection away from implicit appeals to whites etc)
 

Slim Whitman

Sparrow
I clarified above, Im not making the case that DeSantis, nor Trump is perfect. Yes, the both of them in particular have way too enthusiastically pushed zionist interests. Believe me, I get where you are coming from with the Jewish lobby, they have been waging war on civilization since the day that they denied Jesus Christ.

Fair enough, although I may have strong opinions towards NJP/alt-right/"wignats" etc I do agree on like 80% of the issues. I understand the value of having different groups use different strategies, however my personal opinion is that the leadership in particular has proven themselves destructive and somewhat reckless with their PR. Even though Charlottesville may have been for a good cause, the execution was awful and ended in disaster that reverberated through the entire right wing for years (doxing, potentially useful allies in the mainstream right distancing from white identity, Js in the Trump admin using this as an excuse to rebrand Trump for 2020 reelection away from implicit appeals to whites etc)
I also agree that the NJP leadership has way too much baggage and bad optics for that party to ever gain much traction. I don't mind that they exist and I'm glad people are doing something, anything. But yeah it's doomed to failure as a viable political party. Charlottesville was made into a disaster by the media but look how hard they had to grasp at straws...oh some guys went on a tiki torch march, oh no! It's another shoah! Then when Antifa/BLM burn down cities, attack cops, and surround federal buildings, it's branded a 'mostly peaceful protest'. Look at guys like Jared Taylor, Stefan Molyneux, or even Nick Fuentes, who went out of their way to maintain good optics and not say anything blatantly racist but even they are deplatformed, demonetized, put on the no-fly list, called nazis, etc. So there's a powerful case to be made that the J-media will destroy your image and twist the facts no matter what you do, so might as well abandon pretenses and just let them have it with both barrels. I don't disagree on any of your main points though.
 

skullmask

Woodpecker
Too add to this: doing this on June 1st is a clear example of how Repubs have learned to use these issues as PR and more evidence they're manufacturing the culture wars as bait. They piss off the left on purpose for views then throw their supporters under the bus when things get sticky.

The solution is to stop playing this stupid game and go with other options, whether opting out or only supporting real reform candidates who don't compromise and don't use you for views and clicks.

Notice too that a lot of incumbent repubs like to talk a big game when out of power. If the dems control congress for example, you will get lots of posturing on the part of the repubs, but that is perfectly safe because they don't actually have to accomplish something. When they obtain a majority then all of a sudden it's endless excuses for why they can't do anything.

If we don't send a message to the repubs that they must accomplish real things that actually benefit us, this will continue. If we keep giving them a pass on their wall-kissing zionism it will never end. It's like some battered wife that keeps returning to her husband because she doesn't want to be single and alone.

I'm inclined to just opt out, even if it might feel good to make liberals squirm when they lose elections. The long term consequences aren't worth the short term feelz.
 
Notice too that a lot of incumbent repubs like to talk a big game when out of power. If the dems control congress for example, you will get lots of posturing on the part of the repubs, but that is perfectly safe because they don't actually have to accomplish something. When they obtain a majority then all of a sudden it's endless excuses for why they can't do anything.

If we don't send a message to the repubs that they must accomplish real things that actually benefit us, this will continue. If we keep giving them a pass on their wall-kissing zionism it will never end. It's like some battered wife that keeps returning to her husband because she doesn't want to be single and alone.

I'm inclined to just opt out, even if it might feel good to make liberals squirm when they lose elections. The long term consequences aren't worth the short term feelz.

I heard Mike "Enoch" Peinovich talk about the Georgia run off election result a few months ago in an interview. He said he was hopeful the Democrats would sweep the 2 senate slots and take the Presidency, the House and the Senate, and that is just what happened. Because afterwards we would have to see the DNC come up with excuses as to why they can get nothing done for their base.

So far, under 5 months of 100% DNC rule the DNC has failed to...

- Push universal healthcare
- Make $15 minimum wage a reality
- Wipe away any student debt
- Pass UBI or even just covid relief checks beyond the initial $1,400 which was supposed to be $2,000 according to their candidates.

It is all theater and no matter who wins the elections the result is the same. If one side sweeps into power, then out come the excuses and blame game.
 

dicknixon72

Pelican
I heard Mike "Enoch" Peinovich talk about the Georgia run off election result a few months ago in an interview. He said he was hopeful the Democrats would sweep the 2 senate slots and take the Presidency, the House and the Senate, and that is just what happened. Because afterwards we would have to see the DNC come up with excuses as to why they can get nothing done for their base.

So far, under 5 months of 100% DNC rule the DNC has failed to...

- Push universal healthcare
- Make $15 minimum wage a reality
- Wipe away any student debt
- Pass UBI or even just covid relief checks beyond the initial $1,400 which was supposed to be $2,000 according to their candidates.

It is all theater and no matter who wins the elections the result is the same. If one side sweeps into power, then out come the excuses and blame game.

100%

And money from our coffers will continue to flow overseas to enrich old-world European families, the Israeli/Zionist lobby, the Saudis, the largess of America's military empire, and the general activities of military-industrial complex.

All the while, we are too consumed by some white cop shooting a black guy or some queer in a dress taking a bowel movement in the women's bathroom or a knocked-up 17 year-old getting an abortion or a hundred thousand other things that - when it comes down to it - really has zero effect on the daily lives of you or me.

The more you think about it, the more you realize that none of these 'hot button' issues matter.

The price and availability of gas matters.
The price of food matters.
The cost of living matters.
Earned and kept wages matter.
The ability to raise a family matters.
The opportunity to live a full life matters.

The rest of it is divisive circus meant to distract. And it works. I don't like Pride Month and all that comes with it, but quite frankly, worrying about that when we're being grifted for BILLIONS of dollars monthly to Israel is like Hitler coming out of his bunker on the last day of the War and screaming at some Lieutenant about a staff car being parked on the wrong side of the street.
 

DeWoken

Robin
I watched this video and was whitepilled for a while. I haven't had the energy to go through the cucking stories.


I'm looking forward to hearing stories about Big Tech getting sued for censorship :cool:
 
I think we also need to recognize any Republican governors who are stopping the already-earmarked federal unemployment. They're probably also in the bag for globalist interests...the only reason to make that change is to make it look like the economic situation is better than it is. It's also to fuel the false dichotomy narrative that their states were somehow "free" only because they were less tyrannical than blue states. DeSantis is one of the governors who fits this bill.
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member

Displaying more resistance to the Covidiocratic agenda

Edit: The more I think about this specific issue the I see its criticality. The cruise industry needs FL more than FL needs it. Yes its a big part of the economy but FL will still thrive even if it never came back. The US cruise industry would have to abandon $billions in logistical infrastructure. This is private industry in direct conflict with narrative. Itll be interesting to see who blinks first and a real indicator of DeSantis‘s sincerity and or abilities to navigate tricky political waters
From the vaccine passport thread. Cruise industry blinked first

 
From the vaccine passport thread. Cruise industry blinked first


I'll admit this is a welcome action. I can't even think of anything to blackpill about it. :sneaky:
 
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